STREVELER

[Blue In BC]

They re-signed Strev this past off-season after a mediocre showing in 2024, so they knew what they were getting and their plan was to stand pat.  If they wanted a change and wanted to be aggressive they had the opportunity to pursue a number of CFL vets, including Fajardo and MBT.  Walters always uses the bounds of the SMS to temper aggressive pursuits which is reasonable behaviour.

Yes and no. It doesn't explain D. Mitchell signed for a lot of money and sitting on the 1 game IR for 6 weeks. Ditto for J. Jones sitting for 6 weeks. Great to have depth but that was a significant trade off.

It seems some decisions about the starters and back ups were made before TC. We have a grand total of 1 rookie import on the AR and if Logan didn't get hurt we may not have seen Vaval yet.

Other than Cooley and our # 4 QB, we only have 2025 draft choices that are on the AR that are rookies.

[dd]

Given the lacklustre state of our receiving corps I don't understand why we didn't go after Hollins. Heck Montreal just did!!you mean to tell me we don't need a burner with cfl experience in our lineup?!?! I am mystified by our personnel decisions

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yes and no. It doesn't explain D. Mitchell signed for a lot of money and sitting on the 1 game IR for 6 weeks. Ditto for J. Jones sitting for 6 weeks. Great to have depth but that was a significant trade off.

It seems some decisions about the starters and back ups were made before TC. We have a grand total of 1 rookie import on the AR and if Logan didn't get hurt we may not have seen Vaval yet.

Other than Cooley and our # 4 QB, we only have 2025 draft choices that are on the AR that are rookies.

I thought we were talking about Strev in this thread?  No one has a crystal ball, maybe Dillon Mitchell should explain why he's sitting on the PR mid-season? As for J. Jones, Kyrie has played well and remained healthy, he can take over his job when and if he falters.

[Blue In BC]

I thought we were talking about Strev in this thread?  No one has a crystal ball, maybe Dillon Mitchell should explain why he's sitting on the PR mid-season? As for J. Jones, Kyrie has played well and remained healthy, he can take over his job when and if he falters.

We are but it was mentioned that Streveler was a good deal for the SMS and whether we shouldn't have stood pat at QB.

[Blueforlife]

At the price we paid I believe he has already earned his salary and will continue to bring a great deal of value and a good emergency backup

If he could just clean up the turnovers that would be great

[theaardvark]

Throwing out any career stats on a player has little or no value.  Throwing our past success in the NFL, again, little to no value.

Sure, they suggest that the player has ability, but only current results tell us whether a player should be in the position they have been given.

I love Strevy, there is no doubt about his character or his desire/drive.  But when it comes to results...

I HATE that he occasionally hits a long pass or drops on in over Cam Judge.  Because that makes people forget somewhat about him fixating on an endzone throw and almost costing us the game.

If he stunk 70% of the time, we could move on.  But to me, it seems he's very good 15% of the time, m'eh 70%, and awful 15%.  And with the ST and D support "he" gets a win.  "He" does not deserve credit for the win, far from it.

Do I hate having him as a backup / SY guy?  Not at all, he brings a lot in that role, and is great value.

Do I hate having him start?  YES.  We KNOW what he brings as a starter, and while the team has wins with him starting, its not wins due to his play.  So saying he wins games is a total fallacy.

He is not our post Collaros starter, that has been established with his play over the years.

So, if Wilson is in our succession plan, lets see what we have in him.  If Chase is in that mix, lets let him get some reps, in practice and live fire.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Throwing out any career stats on a player has little or no value.  Throwing our past success in the NFL, again, little to no value.

Sure, they suggest that the player has ability, but only current results tell us whether a player should be in the position they have been given.

I love Strevy, there is no doubt about his character or his desire/drive.  But when it comes to results...

I HATE that he occasionally hits a long pass or drops on in over Cam Judge.  Because that makes people forget somewhat about him fixating on an endzone throw and almost costing us the game.

If he stunk 70% of the time, we could move on.  But to me, it seems he's very good 15% of the time, m'eh 70%, and awful 15%.  And with the ST and D support "he" gets a win.  "He" does not deserve credit for the win, far from it.

Do I hate having him as a backup / SY guy?  Not at all, he brings a lot in that role, and is great value.

Do I hate having him start?  YES.  We KNOW what he brings as a starter, and while the team has wins with him starting, its not wins due to his play.  So saying he wins games is a total fallacy.

He is not our post Collaros starter, that has been established with his play over the years.

So, if Wilson is in our succession plan, lets see what we have in him.  If Chase is in that mix, lets let him get some reps, in practice and live fire.

Agreed, the uncertainty around Zach's current abilities make me nervous about sticking with Strev as a backup, who if injuries dictate could be called upon IF the Bombers make the playoffs. I can accept they won't make any change this year and may not make the GC, but if they're both brought back next season as if "all's good", it will be a small indicator that O'Shea is willing to go down with the ship rather than alter course.

[bunker]

Agreed, the uncertainty around Zach's current abilities make me nervous about sticking with Strev as a backup, who if injuries dictate could be called upon IF the Bombers make the playoffs. I can accept they won't make any change this year and may not make the GC, but if they're both brought back next season as if "all's good", it will be a small indicator that O'Shea is willing to go down with the ship rather than alter course.

There have been times in the past 2 years where I've wondered if winning at all costs is really not his goal anymore, that winning the right way and treating his players in what he see's as the right way is even more important to him. He's won multiple cups as player and coach, and maybe now he puts more stock in doing things "the right way" according to him. I'm sure he still wants to win, but not in the cut throat way some coaches/GMs do (Wally Buono comes to mind). Could be wrong, just a thought I've had after seeing some of the decisions he's made.

[Jesse]

Throwing out any career stats on a player has little or no value.  Throwing our past success in the NFL, again, little to no value.

Sure, they suggest that the player has ability, but only current results tell us whether a player should be in the position they have been given.

I love Strevy, there is no doubt about his character or his desire/drive.  But when it comes to results...

I HATE that he occasionally hits a long pass or drops on in over Cam Judge.  Because that makes people forget somewhat about him fixating on an endzone throw and almost costing us the game.

If he stunk 70% of the time, we could move on.  But to me, it seems he's very good 15% of the time, m'eh 70%, and awful 15%.  And with the ST and D support "he" gets a win.  "He" does not deserve credit for the win, far from it.

Do I hate having him as a backup / SY guy?  Not at all, he brings a lot in that role, and is great value.

Do I hate having him start?  YES.  We KNOW what he brings as a starter, and while the team has wins with him starting, its not wins due to his play.  So saying he wins games is a total fallacy.

He is not our post Collaros starter, that has been established with his play over the years.

So, if Wilson is in our succession plan, lets see what we have in him.  If Chase is in that mix, lets let him get some reps, in practice and live fire.

The succession plan doesn't matter when you're trying to win games in 2025. The coaches have deemed that Strev is better than Wilson right now and that's the only thing that matters.