STREVELER

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Right on.  Next season QB situation gets a side eye level of attention, at best.  We'll worry about that Nov 17.

And Mafia doesn't care if Strev can't start and win 9 games for us, because that's not the plan, and shouldn't come to pass.  If Zach is season-ended come trade deadline I fully expect us to make some splash trade and pull a '19.

Ford, Powell, Masoli could all be up for sale at the right price (i.e. an arm & leg) at the deadline, depending on team standings.  Ford or Powell might give us a better shot in the post-season than Strev.  Maybe.  Masoli would probably be on par with Strev.

With BLM's return to success I expect he will continue his career a few more years than he originally anticipated much to the chagrin of young backup Taylor Powell.  I know the Ti-Cats will do everything they can to retain him but I can't see him being happy in that situation, Bombers should do everything in their power working with Goveia to ensure he lands in their lap, let Ted take whoever he wants other than Brady.

[theaardvark]

With BLM's return to success I expect he will continue his career a few more years than he originally anticipated much to the chagrin of young backup Taylor Powell.  I know the Ti-Cats will do everything they can to retain him but I can't see him being happy in that situation, Bombers should do everything in their power working with Goveia to ensure he lands in their lap, let Ted take whoever he wants other than Brady.

Streveler for Powell?

DEAL!

[Blueforlife]

Cost is the LAST consideration I have for QB2.

They should either be a proven QB that is trying to get back to QB1 status, or a future QB1.  Case 1 costs $SMS, case 2 does not.

We have case 3, a never has been, never projected to be QB1, who has flashes of brilliance but is generally m'eh, who came very cheap.  And is a fan favourite (sells jerseys, puts butts in seats). 

I want a case 2, we had it in Dru Brown, but Collaros wasn't ready to go, so we lost him.  Every time we hear about Wilson, they mention he throws such a nice ball.  Two games ago, MOS said it, and then complimented Streveler, talking about his one good pass.

We need either a VERY short leash on Streveler, or to give Wilson a start.  We cannot rely on Vaval getting 2 TD's and Willie getting 4 pass knockdowns to be able to win a game any longer.

Teams can scheme against Streveler too, now, although its not hard.  With no film on Wilson, that will be much harder.

Edm almost won with Ford being benched.  They should have, but for a dropped ball.

I'd happily lose to Calgary if it mean we get a strong look at Wilson and what he can do with live reps against a quality team.  Tossing him in in garbage time after we go down bigly is not the answer.

There will be no short leash with Strev imo.  He can win now and that's why he is in.  I am high on Wilson but we got time to develop him.  I would like to see him get reps too but our club doesn't really do that.  We play our starters late into games even when up 3 scores.

Tell me more about Powell kinda forgot about him.

[theaardvark]

There will be no short leash with Strev imo. He can win now and that's why he is in.  I am high on Wilson but we got time to develop him.  I would like to see him get reps too but our club doesn't really do that.  We play our starters late into games even when up 3 scores.

Tell me more about Powell kinda forgot about him.

That is a generous assessment of is play.

It is more of a "He plays just not bad enough to lose"

I loove Streveler, always have, he's a character and has his strengths when used appropriately.  2nd and short, step forward and then drop back and pass, its a free play, go for it.  Make a SY first down and stay in with tempo against their jumbo and make a pass, great!  But those are the ONLY times I want to see him throw the ball. 

Sorry, but he still can't read a D, and fixates too much on his first read.  I think the only reason he doesn't get picked more is because his throws often don't get to the spot he's throwing too.

Some say he has goofy throwing mechanics, but that is not the reason to curtail his throwing.  The fact that his throws are only occasionally good is.  And like a blind squirrel, he's going to find a nut occasionally.

You can't develop a QB on the sidelines.  We saw Dru when Zach went down, and that meant he got picked up by Ott as a starter. 

We need to get Wilson into live fire and either develop him, or move on.  With Zach practicing now, the next time ZC8 comes out for any reason, Wilson needs to go in. 

[Blueforlife]

That is a generous assessment of is play.

It is more of a "He plays just not bad enough to lose"

I loove Streveler, always have, he's a character and has his strengths when used appropriately.  2nd and short, step forward and then drop back and pass, its a free play, go for it.  Make a SY first down and stay in with tempo against their jumbo and make a pass, great!  But those are the ONLY times I want to see him throw the ball. 

Sorry, but he still can't read a D, and fixates too much on his first read.  I think the only reason he doesn't get picked more is because his throws often don't get to the spot he's throwing too.

Some say he has goofy throwing mechanics, but that is not the reason to curtail his throwing.  The fact that his throws are only occasionally good is.  And like a blind squirrel, he's going to find a nut occasionally.

You can't develop a QB on the sidelines.  We saw Dru when Zach went down, and that meant he got picked up by Ott as a starter. 

We need to get Wilson into live fire and either develop him, or move on.  With Zach practicing now, the next time ZC8 comes out for any reason, Wilson needs to go in. 

We ain't moving on from Wilson and we ain't going to drop Strev as our #2.  Kinda like we were not going to sign Brown.  There are ideal outcomes and then their is reality.  Strev is what he is, your analysis isn't wrong but perhaps a little harsh.  Helps us win as needed.  His medium length passes are slightly improved this year.  I want Wilson to play as well, never know what will happen later in the season but he will wait his turn and slowly develop the best he can at practice.  Yes he needs reps and I want him to get them, will it happen, 10% chance imo

Disagree that Wilson goes in, he goes in if both are hurt, garbage time (maybe) or Strev throws 3 or 4 ducks.

[dd]

That is a generous assessment of is play.

It is more of a "He plays just not bad enough to lose"

I loove Streveler, always have, he's a character and has his strengths when used appropriately.  2nd and short, step forward and then drop back and pass, its a free play, go for it.  Make a SY first down and stay in with tempo against their jumbo and make a pass, great!  But those are the ONLY times I want to see him throw the ball. 

Sorry, but he still can't read a D, and fixates too much on his first read.  I think the only reason he doesn't get picked more is because his throws often don't get to the spot he's throwing too.

Some say he has goofy throwing mechanics, but that is not the reason to curtail his throwing.  The fact that his throws are only occasionally good is.  And like a blind squirrel, he's going to find a nut occasionally.

You can't develop a QB on the sidelines.  We saw Dru when Zach went down, and that meant he got picked up by Ott as a starter. 

We need to get Wilson into live fire and either develop him, or move on.  With Zach practicing now, the next time ZC8 comes out for any reason, Wilson needs to go in. 

Totally agree with your assessment, Strev is not the answer at #2. He did all he could to lose the game for us, despite outstanding ST and D TD's. Seen enough, move on, but MOS won't, he'll stick with him, hopefully, we don't get to see him play again. Agree also on Wilson, let's see what he can do if we're pressed into the situation

[theaardvark]

We ain't moving on from Wilson and we ain't going to drop Strev as our #2.  Kinda like we were not going to sign Brown.  There are ideal outcomes and then their is reality.  Strev is what he is, your analysis isn't wrong but perhaps a little harsh.  Helps us win as needed.  His medium length passes are slightly improved this year.  I want Wilson to play as well, never know what will happen later in the season but he will wait his turn and slowly develop the best he can at practice.  Yes he needs reps and I want him to get them, will it happen, 10% chance imo

Disagree that Wilson goes in, he goes in if both are hurt, garbage time (maybe) or Strev throws 3 or 4 ducks.

It shouldn't be "or Strev throws 3 or 4 ducks", he already has, repeatedly.

If the D and ST hadn't scored more than half the points, we lose that game embarrassingly. 

Streveler is on this team for his contract, if he is healthy, he's on the sidelines.  I accept that.  And he can be effective in the role he is qualified to play.  Which is NOT #1 play caller.

But like Ford in Edm, you need to adjust the hierarchy of the QB room based on performance.  Wilson needs to move ahead of Streveler. #1 if ZC8 is on the IR.  #2 if Zach plays.

If we lose a game with CS17 under centre, its our own fault.  And too late.

[bunker]

I'm not a huge Streveler fan. Love his heart, but he does not have the skill set to run an offense effectively.

However, I'm not convinced Wilson would be any better, in fact I suspect he would be worse.

Zach better get healthy and stay healthy.

[TecnoGenius]

They should either be a proven QB that is trying to get back to QB1 status, or a future QB1.  Case 1 costs $SMS, case 2 does not.

I want a case 2, we had it in Dru Brown

Ya, so does every team.  A future star who is on ELC.  Duh.

But those guys only roll around once every season or so!  Who fit that bill at one time?  Rourke in BC, Dru in WPG, Kelly in TOR, Alexander in MTL.  That's the only ones in 5+ seasons.

The vast majority are Dom Davis or Caleb Evans.

So, unlikely, and we certainly can't count on it.

[TecnoGenius]

We need either a VERY short leash on Streveler, or to give Wilson a start.

And when Wilson plays like that clown CGY started last week??  What then?

Wilson had his big chance to shine and be the next big thing when he had those 2 series in the GC.  Blew 2 TD pass attempts, at least one of which would have been a TD if he had put more air on it.  He does that, he likely stays in and we may win that cup.

I'd rather roll with .500-guaranteed Strev if no Zach.  Wilson will just have to keep dev'ing, and he may never be anything other than a SYer.

[peg_city]

OC is saying that third INT was underthrown. O'shea liked the play call, it was just executed incorrectly.

https://3downnation.com/2025/08/04/winnipeg-oc-jason-hogan-defends-play-call-blames-misplaced-throw-for-late-game-interception/

[The Zipp]

OC is saying that third INT was underthrown. O'shea liked the play call, it was just executed incorrectly.

https://3downnation.com/2025/08/04/winnipeg-oc-jason-hogan-defends-play-call-blames-misplaced-throw-for-late-game-interception/

yup - many on here wanted to absolve Strev of that mistake but MOS and Hogan are standing by the call and putting the blame squarely on the QB.  Personally I think it was a bad play call AND terrible execution by the QB.  Ultimately the players are the ones on the field and Strev could have thrown that ball away had he had the pocket presence to realize the receiver was covered.

Coaches have spoken - its on the QB
QB has spoken - it was his mistake

[Jesse]

yup - many on here wanted to absolve Strev of that mistake but MOS and Hogan are standing by the call and putting the blame squarely on the QB.  Personally I think it was a bad play call AND terrible execution by the QB.  Ultimately the players are the ones on the field and Strev could have thrown that ball away had he had the pocket presence to realize the receiver was covered.

Coaches have spoken - its on the QB
QB has spoken - it was his mistake

Coach can shift the blame all he wants, it was a dumb and unnecessary call. It was all risk with no benefit.

[Pete]

Hogan appears to be very defensive rather than owning up to his mistakes.
Earlier when asked about the offense numbers leading up to the game his comment was that they were putting up the yards just needed to finish, rather than admitting they had work to do.
(when many of those yards were gained after the game was decided and defenses were in prevent mode)
Re this call He should have just admitted that it wasn't a great call and he'll learn from it.

[peg_city]

The problem is really having a 5'9" receiver go for a jump ball with a 6' defensive back.

If the iso was with wheatfall, this would have been more acceptable.