STREVELER

Started by Austin85, August 02, 2025, 04:00:12 AM

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Bomber Diehard

I would suggest that we watch the NFL Cuts for a young QB.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Bomber Diehard on August 02, 2025, 02:26:40 PMI would suggest that we watch the NFL Cuts for a young QB.


We've got one in the pipeline. Taylor Elgersma. Canadian. Didn't play NCAA ball but the fact he was able to convince the Green Bay Packers he's worth a training camp spot is massive. There's a few organizations down south who absolutely know the position and Green Bay is one.

We just have to pray he crashes out this month.

dd

All this talk on strev is mind blowing. Plain and simple, which is the streveller way, He was awful.

We should be talking about Vavol and his 2 TDs and the D line who knocked down about 8-10 passes (ie more than the secondary!!) and caused a fumble that lead to a TD.

Our D line played it's best game of the year and all we can talk about is streveller??! C mon give me a break. The guy doesn't make any other teams roster than ours and is a disaster in the pocket.

Thank you special teams and D line for an outstanding performances, one that we haven't seen in I don't know how long. It was the only reason we won last night.

bunker

I don't think anyone in an NFL camp currently will have any influence on our QB situation this year. Firstly, anyone cut at the end of August is much more likely to hang around down south hoping to get picked up on an NFL practice roster than come up here for 6 to 8 weeks for the pocket change they would make on our PR. They would make more in one week on an NFL PR than they would make on ours for the rest of the season.

Secondly, it's going to take time for any NFL QB to adjust and learn the CFL game. Even Elgersma if he came up would have to serve his time as a developmental QB for a couple of years.

And no CFL team is likely to give up any alternatives to us than are better than our current 2 QBs, with the possible exception of Fajardo, if/when elks are eliminated from playoffs.

Having said that, I would rather have Fajardo behind Collaros than Streveler.
Streveler is not very good, although he's probably not as bad as he looked last night because our current O-line and receivers are not very good.

Blue In BC

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Streveler career 25 / 26 TD to int. In seasons 2019 - 2025 14 / 21 TD to int. 95 / 147 completions. In 2025 5 / 6 TD to int ratio.

Those are not good numbers or improving trends for any QB. His running numbers are down to next to nothing and that used to be his biggest asset.

Some are trying to quantify that the Bombers are 2 - 0 when he's started this year.

Sure. Last night he was 0 / 3. A pick 6 and an int in the end zone.  Others have said we didn't win because of him we won in spite of him. 2 return TD's a fumble recovery TD and the DL knocking down 8 passes won the game. Some very good plays by Demski and Oliveria on offence WAS the offence.

One game at a time.

Pete

#35
Streveler himself looks frustrated as he can no longer outrun dlinemen The loss of footspeed is dramatic
That said hes in tough with this subpar receiving group and poor OC

bomb squad

Other than the extremely poor decision to throw into the endzone when they had a back breaking field goal pretty much in the bag, Streveler did Ok. He made some key throws downfield when he had to. It's just a different game with him at the helm. It becomes a power game and he's a big part of that. That's the style he's suited for. He does just enough throwing to keep the defence honest. I would agree he's not starter material. And there are a few backups that are better, but he's not a bad backup to have. He gives defences something they're not used to.

Blueforlife

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Strev is decent backup at a great price.  Not a great outing.
Zach is our guy and is great when healthy and our OL is at least average.
Dru Brown is good and I miss him but that was the right decision at the time and no need to rehash it.

dd

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Quote from: bomb squad on August 02, 2025, 07:18:02 PMOther than the extremely poor decision to throw into the endzone when they had a back breaking field goal pretty much in the bag, Streveler did Ok. He made some key throws downfield when he had to. It's just a different game with him at the helm. It becomes a power game and he's a big part of that. That's the style he's suited for. He does just enough throwing to keep the defence honest. I would agree he's not starter material. And there are a few backups that are better, but he's not a bad backup to have. He gives defences something they're not used to.
Fajardo in 10 x the Qb streveller is and arguably better than Collaros right now and he was a backup in Edmonton mind you his recent 2 hot games likely shifted him into the #1 spot in Edmonton and this off season I d go after him as a replacement for zc

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on August 03, 2025, 02:54:49 AMFajardo in 10 x the Qb Steelers and arguably better than Collaros right now and he was a backup in Edmonton mind you his recent 2 hot games likely shifted him into the #1 spot in Edmonton and this off season I d go after him as a replacement for zc

Yep, it's going to be hard for Ford to get his job back when Fajardo plays that well, which is exactly what many thought would happen when the Elks signed him. Don't know if they'll be able to keep them both next season but Fajardo is going to be asking for a lot more money if he's the starter.  Maybe Hervey will cut Ty Ford to pay for his raise!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: BomberFan73 on August 02, 2025, 01:54:22 PMSome of his plays lastnight really left me wanting to bang my head. All he has is gusto. It works for small bits, can pump up the team and make them play better. But he's just not starter material.
He's an ideal shortyardage guy.

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 02, 2025, 02:21:30 PMDifferent reasons for the limitations but both are probably definite. Streveler is what he is.

SB&G gets it.  He is what he is what he's always been.  And as WPG fans we should all know this.

He's great SY with a real run and pass threat.

And he's a great budget backup who will keep you at .500.  How much money do the other teams tie up in their vet backup QB?  $150-$250k I would guess.  Not $100-ish.  Don't underestimate how much having Strev as the ultimate budget SY+backup QB means to our SMS.  He basically pays for the entire Vaughters acquisition.

Now, if the post-season is coming and Zach is going to be out, we need to real solution, for sure.  But that's when you hit the trades and couch sitters... just like we did in '19!
Never go full Rider!

Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 03, 2025, 03:40:50 AMSB&G gets it.  He is what he is what he's always been.  And as WPG fans we should all know this.

He's great SY with a real run and pass threat.

And he's a great budget backup who will keep you at .500.  How much money do the other teams tie up in their vet backup QB?  $150-$250k I would guess.  Not $100-ish.  Don't underestimate how much having Strev as the ultimate budget SY+backup QB means to our SMS.  He basically pays for the entire Vaughters acquisition.

Now, if the post-season is coming and Zach is going to be out, we need to real solution, for sure.  But that's when you hit the trades and couch sitters... just like we did in '19!


None of that is hardly a reason to keep him. It's a sub set of signing Collaros to a big raise in recent seasons. For every $$$$ spend somewhere, it's another $$$ not spent elsewhere.

Spending the SMS and getting the best bang for the buck is complicated and there is no perfect solution.

Choices are made in free agency. Some work out well and others don't.

We could have signed some players for the money spent on D.Mitchell that could be starting for us NOW. As an example M. Sayles as a starting CB. Or A. Green as a Canadian CB.

Management needs a crystal ball but there is a lot of guess work evaluating where and who fills a specific need.

Going into free agency we knew receiver was a high level of need.

I don't know that we had other # 2 QB's available to us or at what possible cost.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 03, 2025, 04:59:51 PMNone of that is hardly a reason to keep him. It's a sub set of signing Collaros to a big raise in recent seasons. For every $$$$ spend somewhere, it's another $$$ not spent elsewhere.

Spending the SMS and getting the best bang for the buck is complicated and there is no perfect solution.

Choices are made in free agency. Some work out well and others don't.

We could have signed some players for the money spent on D.Mitchell that could be starting for us NOW. As an example M. Sayles as a starting CB. Or A. Green as a Canadian CB.

Management needs a crystal ball but there is a lot of guess work evaluating where and who fills a specific need.

Going into free agency we knew receiver was a high level of need.

I don't know that we had other # 2 QB's available to us or at what possible cost.

They re-signed Strev this past off-season after a mediocre showing in 2024, so they knew what they were getting and their plan was to stand pat.  If they wanted a change and wanted to be aggressive they had the opportunity to pursue a number of CFL vets, including Fajardo and MBT.  Walters always uses the bounds of the SMS to temper aggressive pursuits which is reasonable behaviour.

J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 02, 2025, 08:41:49 AMFor sure he's not a cerebral QB!  But many good QBs aren't (VAJ, Durant, etc).
Terry Bradshaw. LOL! 
Go Bombers!

J5V

Quote from: dd on August 02, 2025, 03:35:35 PMAll this talk on strev is mind blowing. Plain and simple, which is the streveller way, He was awful.

We should be talking about Vavol and his 2 TDs and the D line who knocked down about 8-10 passes (ie more than the secondary!!) and caused a fumble that lead to a TD.

Our D line played it's best game of the year and all we can talk about is streveller??! C mon give me a break. The guy doesn't make any other teams roster than ours and is a disaster in the pocket.

Thank you special teams and D line for an outstanding performances, one that we haven't seen in I don't know how long. It was the only reason we won last night.
The title of this thread is "STREVELER". Where else would we talk about him. Sheesh!

Hate him all you want, he made some clutch throws and some gutsy runs in this game that absolutely helped us nail down the W. The guy is 100% viking warrior. Yes he goes berserker sometimes but I'd keep him over other QBs like MBT (puke), Masoli, etc.
Go Bombers!