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Started by Austin85, August 02, 2025, 04:00:12 AM

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jdrattops

Quote from: Jesse on August 02, 2025, 04:28:15 AMAt the end of the day, it doesn't matter if we're starting Strev or Wilson. If Zach isn't in, we're toast.

Complain all you want about who is #2 or #3 or #4, it's irrelevant.

I think this can be said for every team in the league.

Jesse

Quote from: jdrattops on Today at 01:41:58 PMI think this can be said for every team in the league.

Yup.

Wasn't a criticism of us, it was telling people to get over who the 3rd string QB is. They're 3rd for a reason.
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Quote from: jdrattops on Today at 01:41:58 PMI think this can be said for every team in the league.

Except the Argos did it twice, perhaps Dinwiddie does a much better job of preparing his backups to play.  Derek Taylor say the Bombers 2nd string gets very few scrimmage reps in practice and #3 virtually zero. How can they get good at their job with such extreme limitations in practice?

Waffler

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 04:17:37 PMExcept the Argos did it twice, perhaps Dinwiddie does a much better job of preparing his backups to play.  I Derek Taylor say the Bombers 2nd string gets very few scrimmage reps in practice and #3 virtually zero. How can they get good at their job with such extreme limitations in practice?
I agree. MOS always saying Zach doesn't need to practice but then makes sure that he gets the lions share of reps. Dru Brown was the only one prepared to come off the bench and win, only after he had been here a number of years though. I just accept it now because that's the way it has always been and I can't see it changing. We did win a lot this way but it's kind of an all or nothing approach. Even in games that get out of hand he'll continue to play Collaros.

In any event, who could tell MOS to change? Hogan? Maybe Jackson could have but he didn't get the OC job. Nope, we ride Collaros as far as we can and hope 36 (37th birthday in 3 weeks) is not too old.
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Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on Today at 04:17:37 PMExcept the Argos did it twice, perhaps Dinwiddie does a much better job of preparing his backups to play.  I Derek Taylor say the Bombers 2nd string gets very few scrimmage reps in practice and #3 virtually zero. How can they get good at their job with such extreme limitations in practice?

Every team is the same. The practice hours are very limited.
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Waffler

Quote from: Jesse on Today at 05:05:31 PMEvery team is the same. The practice hours are very limited.

Wally Buono was famous for giving his QB's equal time in practice. Calgary was the QB factory for the league in that time. There is more than one way to do things.
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Quote from: Jesse on Today at 05:05:31 PMEvery team is the same. The practice hours are very limited.

True in that sense but I've heard the Stamps run a practice system that gets there backups more reps which maybe what Dinwiddie is also doing.

markf

Quote from: Jesse on Today at 05:05:31 PMEvery team is the same.

That is not a good reason for doing it.

Jesse

Quote from: markf on Today at 05:37:04 PMThat is not a good reason for doing it.

The reason is you're trying to win on Saturday and your best chance of getting that win is having Zach as prepared as possible.

At the point where Wilson is at, he has to force the coaches hand by making them want to see more. Put in extra hours with receivers on his own time.

If we're not seeing more of him, then there's usually reasons behind why that is.
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Quote from: Jesse on Today at 05:56:15 PMThe reason is you're trying to win on Saturday and your best chance of getting that win is having Zach as prepared as possible.

At the point where Wilson is at, he has to force the coaches hand by making them want to see more. Put in extra hours with receivers on his own time.

If we're not seeing more of him, then there's usually reasons behind why that is.

Would you claim the Bomber method works?  Seems to me other than Dru Brown, they haven't been able to develop a QB since Dieter Brock.

theaardvark

Zach, as a vet, does not "need" to practice, and if he's healing, he shouldn't. 

Zach, as a QB running an O that has moving parts on it, new Rec's, new Olinemen, etc, needs reps to get into a rhythm. 

The fine line to balance is how many does he need.

The backups usually run the snaps for the D, the taxi squad snaps.  This doesn't give the QB a lot of snaps with the first team Oline or Rec's, but they get snaps.  Many times, I've seena  backup come in, and suddenly the 5th rec gets targets, because they have time practicing together.

I want our QB's ready to step in, and that means getting some reps.
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