Official Game Day Thread - Toronto at Winnipeg, August 1, 2025

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BBFANDM

Quote from: Big Daddy on August 01, 2025, 01:58:20 AMI think this is a bit premature to be honest.  I mean sure - one can make random predictions that no one will remember, and if one of them happens to come true you can claim the prediction early. 

I'll play - I won't be surprised if Wilson gets in and lights up the league, and we win a Grey Cup on his performance.

Now feel free to ignore that unless it actually happens - then I have documented it here first!

(I'm just being a smart-a** - I'm not really equating my wild prediction to yours BBFANDM - just having a bit of fun).
I am not saying it will happen and I am not suggesting its his Hogan's fault he inherited a declining QB and Oline not to mention Receiver issues. I am just suggesting that he might be part of the problem we don't really know at this point because the Team is a bit of a mess. And Jackson has a much longer history in the League as a player and as a coach.

Big Daddy

Quote from: BBFANDM on August 01, 2025, 02:01:06 AMI am not saying it will happen and I am not suggesting its his Hogan's fault he inherited a declining QB and Oline not to mention Receiver issues. I am just suggesting that he might be part of the problem we don't really know at this point because the Team is a bit of a mess. And Jackson has a much longer history in the League as a player and as a coach.

Yes, very fair point - he may well be part of the problem, we don't know yet.  Osh has a pretty decent history of having good coordinators and trusting them, but it doesn't mean he's batting a thousand at that, or infallible.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 31, 2025, 05:01:44 PMChanges at safety, CB and SAM along with J. Jones being added. That's a lot after a short week and 1 practice. I guess we'll see how this works out. I don't know that the depth chart will be factual but it might be.

It's an unofficial "shake up", that's what it is.  There's been a horrible lack of focus and discipline and general crap play by the whole team.  This is MOS's version of "there will be consequences" -- at least for now.

Most teams are clicking and moving along and being competitive and having good drives and making good picks.  We're not.  We've been moving backwards for 3 games, and getting worse every time.

You have to stop the bleeding before you can get better.

I'll take any shakeup MOS wants to do right now.  A virtual slap across the face is what every player needs right now.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: BBFANDM on August 01, 2025, 01:58:51 AMSorry who would you give 2 years ? O'Shea isn't signed for next year as far as I know.
Hogan

jdrattops

Quote from: bunker on August 01, 2025, 01:19:53 AMThat Mitchell signing is a real head scratcher. He got a bonus usually reserved for relatively sought after and talented receivers, but can only apparently play one position, where we already had a decent and cheap option in Wheatfall. Big fail on Walter's part, Hervey must be having a chuckle over it.

Many fails this year from both Walters and O'Shea.  It was a good run, unfortunately it's over.  Unlike last year's slow start, there are just too many holes in this year's lineup.  Complete disappointment for a GC year.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: DM83 on August 01, 2025, 04:27:26 AMWhat's with this Mitchell guy? Did he ever start for nobody? Edmonton. Why isn't he on the active roster?  This just drags the team down. Does the guy have some sort of disability? A. Broken leg.

;D  ;D  Between-the-ears-osis?   :o  :o  :o  8)
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Pete

If they feel that putting in Mitchell is a worse option than Corcoran and Cobbs at slot putting in Cooley/Jones its likely smart.
The big miss then is the lack of options we had at reciever

TecnoGenius

Quote from: BBFANDM on August 01, 2025, 01:12:41 AMIf Dillon Mitchell is a WR and the Bombers value players that can play muliple positions then why did they sign him.

Because we knew Kenny was leaving, and Pokey wasn't going to be back until Sept (if ever).

Mitchell is a reflex signing to get Dollar Store Kenny.  That's it.  That's all.  And if D.Mitchell could play like his first 2 years, right out of the gate for us?  That would have been a home run with low cost.

"But we had Wheatie!".  Wheatie was pretty useless last season and into the playoffs.  I'm pretty sure in FA Mafia thought Wheatie was going to be cut after TC.  But then Wheatie came and showed improvement and effort, and Mitchell showed sewage.

And so here we are.  Wheatie had 1 good game and has fallen back to '24 norms.  We have no Kenny replacement.  Now Schoen is dinged.  And we suck.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: markf on July 31, 2025, 07:51:17 PMI think the Bombers will do what they've been doing in the past when everyone doubts them...

Which is win.

I full agree.  But it won't be overnight.  Still too many broken and missing pieces.

I think the best we can hope for is improvement.  Maybe steady improvement over the next 3 games.  Even if we lose them all.  That would get me hopeful again.

And if we do luck into a 3-pt win against a garbage ailing TOR team on Fri, I won't say "all clear" yet.  That will just be a W against a worst-3 team.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 31, 2025, 05:49:49 PMDon't think they could move him to the IR to protect, pretty sure it has to be AR.

Never heard of that.  That would be weird.  What if you had a dude on PR, another team says they want him the same day the dude sprains his ankle in practice.  You can't put him on AR, obviously.

You can't punish a legit possibility, even if it looks shady because it can be abused.
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TecnoGenius

Our D can have a legit chance if our coaches/coords would for once look at precisely what the opponent QB/OC is doing and do special things specifically to take advantage of those things!

Remember like 2-3 seasons ago when T.Harris was ripping up the league with his short game and everyone said it was unstoppable because there was no time to pass rush, and no way to cover all 5 RECs?

Hall found the secret and we eviscerated SSK that year.  I think we started their annual tailspin that season.

Ya, so Arbuckle sits back there and looks cold and calculated picking us apart with short/mid passes with impunity.  Converting every 2nd & 18.

So let's focus on him & the OC and counter the specific things they are trying to do!  Which shouldn't be hard, because every pundit in the world says Dinwiddie simplifies the book for mid-talent Arbuckle.  They don't run that many plays!

"But we do that already!".  Nah, I don't think we've done that for a while.  "We'll just play Bomber ball" "we don't care who the QB is" is the usual answer.  (Worked great in the GC, eh?)

ESPECIALLY when we don't have the horses at the moment, you need to out-brain.  Our brains have been switched off for 3 games.  Heck, TOR is the perfect example!  They have worse talent suckage than we do, bad QB, bad everything, yet they clobbered us because they are probably the highest brains in the league at this moment.
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The Zipp

not looking great for the game to happen tonight:


Friday10+ Very High Risk


Friday night9 - High Risk


Saturday7 - High Risk

we could be playing on Sunday

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: The Zipp on August 01, 2025, 10:16:37 AMnot looking great for the game to happen tonight:


Friday10+ Very High Risk


Friday night9 - High Risk


Saturday7 - High Risk

we could be playing on Sunday


WTH!

This would completely suck.


Seems completely fine outside this morning. It would be ridiculous to cancel a game if the weather conditions were the same they are now!
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on August 01, 2025, 10:48:24 AMSeems completely fine outside this morning. It would be ridiculous to cancel a game if the weather conditions were the same they are now!

Ya we're very used to being outside when it's around 80-130, like right now.  That's like "normal" now.

My smoke modeling site shows both Fri and Sat being 100-200 daytime but there MAY be pockets of under 100 after 7pm, especially after 8pm.  Under 80 though?  Who knows.

Unlike Regina, these pockets are forecast to hover and shrink/grow, not blow away east or something.  That presents the interesting possibility of the game starting then stopping then starting then stopping... It depends how anal they want to be about that 80 rule.

Clearly these new smoke rules will have to be examined either mid-season or in the off-season.  If even 2-4 games are delayed, next-day delayed, or cancelled, it's a major disaster for the hosting team, and the whole league.  And even the Mega Important gambling markets are affected (bets are cancelled and how many people don't bother re-making them?).

80 is asinine and a number they pulled out their butt.  I'm sure every single player who sat around in Regina (and probably tonight's game) will agree that if it's 90 that's perfectly fine, even 100.  Heck, like Goldie said, most non-compromised people don't notice anything under 120.

I applaud the sentiment, but screw over another few games and every single stakeholder will be screaming.  I can't think of a single party that will want to keep this rule as-is.

P.S. We don't face TOR again, so a complete cancellation presents a disaster for any "make-up" scenario.  Even worse that this is a E/W matchup.
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Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 01, 2025, 08:07:10 AMOur D can have a legit chance if our coaches/coords would for once look at precisely what the opponent QB/OC is doing and do special things specifically to take advantage of those things!

Remember like 2-3 seasons ago when T.Harris was ripping up the league with his short game and everyone said it was unstoppable because there was no time to pass rush, and no way to cover all 5 RECs?

Hall found the secret and we eviscerated SSK that year.  I think we started their annual tailspin that season.

Ya, so Arbuckle sits back there and looks cold and calculated picking us apart with short/mid passes with impunity.  Converting every 2nd & 18.

So let's focus on him & the OC and counter the specific things they are trying to do!  Which shouldn't be hard, because every pundit in the world says Dinwiddie simplifies the book for mid-talent Arbuckle.  They don't run that many plays!

"But we do that already!".  Nah, I don't think we've done that for a while.  "We'll just play Bomber ball" "we don't care who the QB is" is the usual answer.  (Worked great in the GC, eh?)

ESPECIALLY when we don't have the horses at the moment, you need to out-brain.  Our brains have been switched off for 3 games.  Heck, TOR is the perfect example!  They have worse talent suckage than we do, bad QB, bad everything, yet they clobbered us because they are probably the highest brains in the league at this moment.


I'm going to guess that identifying the game plan is usually way above our viewing level as fans.

If you want to take MOS at face value (which doesn't always hold up, of course), they do make a specific plan for each team they are playing. This was said last week.
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