Official Game Day Thread - Toronto at Winnipeg, August 1, 2025

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"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

Strevy

Quote from: LXTSN on August 02, 2025, 02:40:15 AMSo true! Strev is on fire with almost 100 YARDS!

Pretty sure there's a reason that Hogan doesn't trust Strev to throw the ball on 2nd and 9...

2-0 when he starts.  Dude just wins.  Zach is washed.  Has been for awhile.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 02, 2025, 03:47:06 AMIf it was up to me I'd cut Streveler tomorrow. If we have to play another QB, it may as well be a rookie. There is no upside for Streveler. Maybe even bring back Dolegala.

That's unexpected from you, the most even-keel guy on this forum.

So what do you have to say about:

Strev: 2 wins
Zach: 2 wins

Or how about this:

Zach: 3 losses (some with Strev relief though)
Strev: 0 losses

Yes, Strev isn't great, but so far he's AT LEAST the .500 QB I promised everyone he is.  Why?  Because he's always won us .500!!

Who's to say the better play by (mostly) everyone tonight wasn't because of Strev's fire and leadership?  Not saying it is, but it could be!  Zach doesn't provide much "fire" and his leadership is strictly of the "quiet, brooding captain" type.  Maybe we need the rah rah "I can run through and win anything!" type sometimes.

Not claiming the W is "all on Strev" at all.  I'm not blind.  But if you look at the raw result, he's doing pretty darn good!  And for that I'm thankful.

Strev is our #2 in '25 as long as he's healthy.  And pray that Zach is healthy for most of it too!
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: BBRT on August 02, 2025, 04:05:25 AMI agree 100% - that play had to be the dumbest play I have ever seen. Who called the play?

The biggest sin is the EZ TO because then you get no points AND they get it at the 30.  It's kinda like a safety.  Just awful.

So why are you doing a weird man-coverage park with a tall DB to a shrimpken REC?  Why not Sterns fake-sit double-move to the corner for a Dressler-reach TD at the back of the EZ?  Sterns is about speed and route, not sitting and jumping.

This shouldn't have even been a play option.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 02, 2025, 04:00:50 AMNot by Castillo in an environment with no wind. He hit the upright. It wasn't short.

And it was a chipped-ball looking trajectory.  That thing looked like a pinball in a rigged machine.  The flags gave a little puff to the left at the last sec and that's exactly where the ball went.

A little more luck and less wind and it likely doinks and goes in.

Just bad luck, I don't blame Castillo.  P.S. Snap/hold looked AMAZING.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Check this out.  Right after the dude laying on the turf brushes his left leg, and almost tackles his right leg (brushing his heel on its up-stroke), Vaval is totally going to fall down tripping all over himself and the turf.

But he doesn't.  He manages to get his right leg moving forward after a little hop, and keep going.

All the while he's in his 2nd-highest gear.

I am not sure I've seen this before.  Grant could shed body tackles like an oiled piglet, but I don't recall him surviving such lower-leg molestation.

Watching this particular 1-2 strides frame-by-frame is fascinating!  I was wondering live in stadium how the heck he survived that final whack on the legs.

Wow!



Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 02, 2025, 02:04:42 AM1. On TV they mentioned Cooley was on the field for a play at LB in the 1st or 2nd series?

Ferguson is wrong.  I checked and it's Person coming off.  #36 vs #38, easy to confuse with our number font on a running player, though clearly that body running off is Person tall beef, not Cooley shrimpken.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

"Josh Hagerty and the Punting Unit"

Sounds like a country-rap fusion band name.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Parker injury: hammy?  Can a strike to the hammy while you're not planted produce a "hammy" injury?

If not, I think this is a minor injury and Parker will be back soon.
Never go full Rider!

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 02, 2025, 05:04:11 AMKelly!!! I immediately remembered his play at Safety last season, he mostly runs around like a passenger and doesn't seem to have a nose for the ball.  The play were Coxie got up off the ground and started running down field, Kelly comes jogging up as if the play is over and flubs his tackle!  First game back, but I seriously doubt he's very tuned into his job. Maybe play on teams for a couple of years till he tunes in.

Neither of our CB's or safety have been tuned in. Kelly may not be the best choice but our PR doesn't have much depth. Woodbey is more of a LB. Dawson might have to play at CB.

Allen played well in pre season but can he succeed this early in the CFL?

Maybe O'Shea puts Cooley in at safety since he did so well on returns. :( I still don't know why they added him to the roster in that or any role.
One game at a time.

Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 02, 2025, 08:28:26 AMThat's unexpected from you, the most even-keel guy on this forum.

So what do you have to say about:

Strev: 2 wins
Zach: 2 wins

Or how about this:

Zach: 3 losses (some with Strev relief though)
Strev: 0 losses

Yes, Strev isn't great, but so far he's AT LEAST the .500 QB I promised everyone he is.  Why?  Because he's always won us .500!!

Who's to say the better play by (mostly) everyone tonight wasn't because of Strev's fire and leadership?  Not saying it is, but it could be!  Zach doesn't provide much "fire" and his leadership is strictly of the "quiet, brooding captain" type.  Maybe we need the rah rah "I can run through and win anything!" type sometimes.

Not claiming the W is "all on Strev" at all.  I'm not blind.  But if you look at the raw result, he's doing pretty darn good!  And for that I'm thankful.

Strev is our #2 in '25 as long as he's healthy.  And pray that Zach is healthy for most of it too!


It's a decision not only based on this game. We didn't win because of him, we won in spite of him. Vaval 2 TD's and Person fumble recovery TD won this game. Yes that can be true for any QB including Collaros.

I mentioned I wouldn't have signed Streveler before he was re-signed. So it's not a surprise or new that I make this comment.

He has no touch, no longer has the running ability he used to have. He continues to make the worst decisions such as the pick in the end zone when all we needed was a FG.

Last night he had 49 yards passing and had thrown a pick 6 in the 1st half. Did that result surprise you?

Look at his career stats for yardage, TD's and int's.  If you didn't know those were his what would your evaluation be?

I get that he's a fan favourite but based on performance ( over time ) and lack of upside, it's time to make a change.
One game at a time.

Blue In BC

I haven't re-watched the game yet but there were some other observations watching live.

1. Wilson didn't seem to play much. I think Kelly was on when Wilson was off. Argos had no run game so it seemed we wanted to add another DB in coverage.

2. Person was on the field a lot. Thomas and Lawson were off the field quite a bit. J. Jones was on the field a few times.

3. No receptions from Clercius ( who I like ) but wouldn't Mitchell be a better choice. Clercius has 181 yards in 7 games.

4. Maybe someone can confirm if noticed but the broadcast mentioned that Cooley was on the field for one defensive rep?

5. Ball and J. Jones both played on ST's. J. Jones had 2 ST's. I'm not sure whether Ball made an impact but coverage was good as a unit.
One game at a time.

Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 02, 2025, 10:03:16 AMFerguson is wrong.  I checked and it's Person coming off.  #36 vs #38, easy to confuse with our number font on a running player, though clearly that body running off is Person tall beef, not Cooley shrimpken.


That makes more sense.

We'll have to see whether Parker can play or if he's out short or long term. it looked like he got hit by friendly fire.
One game at a time.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 02, 2025, 01:26:59 PMThat makes more sense.

We'll have to see whether Parker can play or if he's out short or long term. it looked like he got hit by friendly fire.

It initially looked very bad from the seats. He grabbed the lower leg and rolled around the turf a few times.

Thankfully he did get up and could put some weight on it. The way he reacted I was thinking it was broke.

He might be out a bit but I hope we dodged a bullet.

Blue In BC

Ok. Re-watched the game.

Streveler only had 91 yards passing by the end of the 3rd Q. At the end of the quarter he rolled right and threw a grounder to Sterns. Then he threw an int on a receiver that was not open. It was another odd int that was knocked down and into the hands of a 2nd DB. The point being it was not close to a Bomber catching it.

In the 4Q, we had some short passes result in some good YAC to the credit of Oliveria and Demski. The total passing yardage nearly doubled in the last Q.

Did Hogan call that play that was an int in the end zone? That was not a jump ball the receiver was going to win. It was a very good defensive play but what why the heck was the pass thrown?
One game at a time.