Crowd letting us down

Started by TecnoGenius, July 29, 2025, 08:01:57 AM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: bomb squad on July 29, 2025, 03:23:09 PMThe crowd is there. The team is not. There has to be some symbiosis for it to work at or near peak levels. If the team doesn't respond to the noise, it's going to have an impact on the level of enthusiasm. It's just human nature. I do think our crowd did very well last game though, considering how it went.

Ya, that's why I'm trying to draw attention to it.  We need to fight the human nature here.  I too feel downbeat and not interested in being loud when we get down big.  But that's actually when we need to be the loudest, so I try to overcome the funk and be loud anyway.
 
Quote from: bomb squad on July 29, 2025, 03:23:09 PMHowever..... I would really, really like to see the crowd noise on defence start as soon as the previous play is over. We still wait too long to get it started. I'm usually the only one in my section ringing my bell for about 5 seconds before others finally start joining in.

Preach brother.  Even I need to pay attention.  My general rule, unless it's some crazy critical series, is I'll start making noise as soon as the 20s clock starts.  They are usually still in the huddle.  But you're right that some teams seem to try to huddle well before that so they can eliminate the PAS noise problem.

I'll try to do better and go nuts when I see them entering the huddle, regardless of the 20s clock.

It will mess up my system though: I've trained myself to be able to yell a very loud boo on one breath for 20s... To increase that to 25 or 30 might kill me!
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Who remembers 2013-2015?  We weren't great, and we lost a LOT of games at home.  Some games we had zero chance and zero hope.  Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the noise on D was often LOUD.  Like louder than it was vs CGY.  Oh ya, and usually there was 3k-8k unsold seats those years...

It's a huge part of what got me into going to games regularly again.  If there wasn't that noise and excitement, I may not be a fan and STH today.

Am I just misremembering?
Never go full Rider!

Blueforlife

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 30, 2025, 03:32:45 AMWho remembers 2013-2015?  We weren't great, and we lost a LOT of games at home.  Some games we had zero chance and zero hope.  Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the noise on D was often LOUD.  Like louder than it was vs CGY.  Oh ya, and usually there was 3k-8k unsold seats those years...

It's a huge part of what got me into going to games regularly again.  If there wasn't that noise and excitement, I may not be a fan and STH today.

Am I just misremembering?

I don't remember those years too well.  I remember the old stadium student section was ridiculous.  Best time ever and $20 per game for lower bowl.  Can't beat it.  The game Hogan ( look a like) got arrested will gone down as an all time great moment.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blueforlife on July 30, 2025, 03:36:47 AMI don't remember those years too well.  I remember the old stadium student section was ridiculous.  Best time ever and $20 per game for lower bowl.  Can't beat it.  The game Hogan ( look a like) got arrested will gone down as an all time great moment.

For the purposes of this thread, to keep things focused, only consider IGF-era noise levels.

I'm not sure the old barn could get anywhere close to IGF noise levels, mainly because it lacked the noise-concentrating roof.

I'm so old I seem to recall old barn selling family fun zone seats for like $5 or $10.  At safeway?  I don't know the details, as I didn't buy anything when I was that young: my parents had to sweat the details  :D
Never go full Rider!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 30, 2025, 03:32:45 AMWho remembers 2013-2015?  We weren't great, and we lost a LOT of games at home.  Some games we had zero chance and zero hope.  Now correct me if I'm wrong, but the noise on D was often LOUD.  Like louder than it was vs CGY.  Oh ya, and usually there was 3k-8k unsold seats those years...

It's a huge part of what got me into going to games regularly again.  If there wasn't that noise and excitement, I may not be a fan and STH today.

Am I just misremembering?


I swear the Riders pump up the crowd noise, when the camera sweeps the stands you rarely see any fans standing and cheering like they do at Bomber games, and yet the volume seems deafening on TV. Even though Riderfans are mostly sitting there staring bleakly at the action on the field, the majority of them are golf clappers.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 30, 2025, 04:33:55 AMI swear the Riders pump up the crowd noise, when the camera sweeps the stands you rarely see any fans standing and cheering like they do at Bomber games, and yet the volume seems deafening on TV. Even though Riderfans are mostly sitting there staring bleakly at the action on the field, the majority of them are golf clappers.

I dunno.  I've been to maybe 6 games at New Mosaic now... and they get very loud.  The last couple of games I swear were louder than IGF, except maybe the Banjo Bowl.

It's a drone-ier noise than ours, and it seems louder.  And I've sat in the more-$ golf-clapper sections there sometimes and there were points in games where every single fan in my section was standing and making big noise.  That virtually never happens @ PAS.

I have no doubt we have the max peak dB for the Banjo Bowl.  But for general noise level over the whole season I think SSK beats us.  And that's with a stadium where the upper bowl is 70% empty these days!

We really need to up our game.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Oh ya, if you don't like to make noise, please don't discourage or make faces at the fans who are.  There's some in every section.  (And I'm not talking about the guy taking a horn or cowbell directly to the ear in the seat in front of you, although even they should lump it.)

If you don't like the noise, bring the ear protectors.  The orange squishy airplane type are cheap and fit right in your pocket!
Never go full Rider!

GOLDMEMBER

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 30, 2025, 04:39:49 AMI dunno.  I've been to maybe 6 games at New Mosaic now... and they get very loud.  The last couple of games I swear were louder than IGF, except maybe the Banjo Bowl.

It's a drone-ier noise than ours, and it seems louder.  And I've sat in the more-$ golf-clapper sections there sometimes and there were points in games where every single fan in my section was standing and making big noise.  That virtually never happens @ PAS.

I have no doubt we have the max peak dB for the Banjo Bowl.  But for general noise level over the whole season I think SSK beats us.  And that's with a stadium where the upper bowl is 70% empty these days!

We really need to up our game.
Jesse's point is it is loud at Mosaic as they pump in the noise. Do you understand? I've been there to 6-7 times and building is 3/5 full and yes it is loud but for sure they pump it in at the toilet bowl.
Rider fans are no more louder than us. It is stupid to think they are somehow louder.  :D

Come on Tecno pull your head out of the weeds.
Season ticket holder since year 1 of the Reinbold era.

Throw Long Bannatyne

#23
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 30, 2025, 04:39:49 AMI dunno.  I've been to maybe 6 games at New Mosaic now... and they get very loud.  The last couple of games I swear were louder than IGF, except maybe the Banjo Bowl.

It's a drone-ier noise than ours, and it seems louder.  And I've sat in the more-$ golf-clapper sections there sometimes and there were points in games where every single fan in my section was standing and making big noise.  That virtually never happens @ PAS.

I have no doubt we have the max peak dB for the Banjo Bowl.  But for general noise level over the whole season I think SSK beats us.  And that's with a stadium where the upper bowl is 70% empty these days!

We really need to up our game.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are most of the games you attend at Mosaic not sellouts, as in LDC, playoff or GC related? Talking in the last 2-3 years their stadium is half empty, no way they produce as much noise as a sellout at PAS.

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 30, 2025, 09:28:34 PMCorrect me if I'm wrong but are most of the games you attend at Mosaic not sellouts, as in LDC, playoff or GC related? Talking in the last 2-3 years their stadium is half empty, no way they produce as much noise as a sellout at PAS.
The last 3 LDC games minimum I've gone to were no where near sellouts. I think they might have mentioned "sellout" on the PA but there were loads of empty seats everywhere last year,  I don't remember.
Season ticket holder since year 1 of the Reinbold era.

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Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 30, 2025, 09:52:12 PMThe last 3 LDC games minimum I've gone to were no where near sellouts. I think they might have mentioned "sellout" on the PA but there were loads of empty seats everywhere last year,  I don't remember.

Seriously?  I thought travelling Bomber fans sold out their stadium for the last few LDC.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 30, 2025, 03:41:08 AMFor the purposes of this thread, to keep things focused, only consider IGF-era noise levels.

I'm not sure the old barn could get anywhere close to IGF noise levels, mainly because it lacked the noise-concentrating roof.

I'm so old I seem to recall old barn selling family fun zone seats for like $5 or $10.  At safeway?  I don't know the details, as I didn't buy anything when I was that young: my parents had to sweat the details  :D

Sorry you made me nostalgic ok lol

I'll leave the old barn out of it.  Too funny because originally I had referred to it as that and changed it to old stadium, love that man!

Yes $5 safeway end zone seats, remember the family fun no booze zone?

If there was a love button  on here my post would have gotten one ;

Good point about the roof

I remember one game at the old barn, mtl I think. Such a close game and back and forth, crowd was insane, mtl got ball last and did a quick pass on sidelines, at the time we all thought time had expired but they left a second on and kicked the game winner, that energy was so great that day, no idea on the year, fairly sure it was mtl..... here I go again will you report me for that story :)

gobombersgo

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 30, 2025, 03:41:08 AMFor the purposes of this thread, to keep things focused, only consider IGF-era noise levels.

I'm not sure the old barn could get anywhere close to IGF noise levels, mainly because it lacked the noise-concentrating roof.

I'm so old I seem to recall old barn selling family fun zone seats for like $5 or $10.  At safeway?  I don't know the details, as I didn't buy anything when I was that young: my parents had to sweat the details  :D


Back when Canad Inns had benches for all the seats that place would get pretty darn loud.

I just remember always having a sore hand from banging on the seat in front of me.

bomb squad

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 30, 2025, 03:28:36 AMYa, that's why I'm trying to draw attention to it.  We need to fight the human nature here.  I too feel downbeat and not interested in being loud when we get down big.  But that's actually when we need to be the loudest, so I try to overcome the funk and be loud anyway.
 
Preach brother.  Even I need to pay attention.  My general rule, unless it's some crazy critical series, is I'll start making noise as soon as the 20s clock starts.  They are usually still in the huddle.  But you're right that some teams seem to try to huddle well before that so they can eliminate the PAS noise problem.

I'll try to do better and go nuts when I see them entering the huddle, regardless of the 20s clock.

It will mess up my system though: I've trained myself to be able to yell a very loud boo on one breath for 20s... To increase that to 25 or 30 might kill me!

That's where the bell comes in handy. Don't tell me you don't have one?!

bomb squad

Quote from: gobombersgo on July 31, 2025, 12:52:37 AMBack when Canad Inns had benches for all the seats that place would get pretty darn loud.

I just remember always having a sore hand from banging on the seat in front of me.


Canadinns was very good for noise. Yes, those benches and the roofs really echoed as well. PAS is louder, but there were more Procedure and Time Counts caused at Canadinns. And why? Because line noise was more effective back then.