Biggest issue

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I thought the secondary showed some improvement yesterday. There has been a few games when the secondary was just a mess. They cutdown on the big plays yesterday really only getting beat by Hardy early in the game.I like the physicality of Allen and it felt like the PI calls against him were kind of ticky tacky calls.

Allen seems to have very good ball skills, can't see any reason he couldn't play corner. Didn't notice Kelly at Safety and Kramdi seemed to be jumping from Safety to SAM often, which can't be great for continuity.

[Jesse]

Allen seems to have very good ball skills, can't see any reason he couldn't play corner. Didn't notice Kelly at Safety and Kramdi seemed to be jumping from Safety to SAM often, which can't be great for continuity.

Allen got some HB reps when Holm went down.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Allen got some HB reps when Holm went down.

It was hard to tell where he was playing, moving him to different spots can't be easy for a rookie. Have to find a spot for him though and can't see it being Safety because of the ratio.

[Jesse]

It was hard to tell where he was playing, moving him to different spots can't be easy for a rookie. Have to find a spot for him though and can't see it being Safety because of the ratio.

It's 100% safety just like it was last night.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

It's 100% safety just like it was last night.

Possibly double Safety in passing situations along with Kelly or Kramdi?  Playing him at Safety full-time could deprive Griffin of a job.

[Jesse]

Possibly double Safety in passing situations along with Kelly or Kramdi?  Playing him at Safety full-time could deprive Griffin of a job.

Our defence doesn't work like that. Allen, Kramdi, and Griffin are all playing. You can call some players starters if you want, but everyone is in on over half the snaps.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Our defence doesn't work like that. Allen, Kramdi, and Griffin are all playing. You can call some players starters if you want, but everyone is in on over half the snaps.

Yah, I don't know about that, maybe rotation has been part of the problem. I think the 5 secondary positions should be fixed personnel wise, variations can be made at SAM, WIL and by adding a 2nd Safety when needed. Kramdi bouncing between positions should be avoided, it's going to lead to unnecessary confusion and breakdowns.

[Blueforlife]

Allen seems to have very good ball skills, can't see any reason he couldn't play corner. Didn't notice Kelly at Safety and Kramdi seemed to be jumping from Safety to SAM often, which can't be great for continuity.

Allen is safety and won't be a corner for us imo
Huge props looks great

Our defence doesn't work like that. Allen, Kramdi, and Griffin are all playing. You can call some players starters if you want, but everyone is in on over half the snaps.

Yup, all the players play just like MOS and our strength on D is different looks and rotation

yesterday was proof it's coaching. Younger maybe not, but Hogan and MOS look lost

Hogan isn't lost but struggling at times and learning as he goes,  as expected, I believe he will figure it out in a year or two and be good for us
MOS has made some mistakes but is not lost imo
Younger and Hall are a top D coach,  combo, best we have seen in a decade? Ritchie's D would be only one close to their level recent memory

[CrazyCanuck89]

Allen seems to have very good ball skills, can't see any reason he couldn't play corner. Didn't notice Kelly at Safety and Kramdi seemed to be jumping from Safety to SAM often, which can't be great for continuity.

Bombers have been doing that all year.  Kramdi would drop back and the safety would come up.

[kkc60]

Hogan isn't lost but struggling at times and learning as he goes,  as expected, I believe he will figure it out in a year or two and be good for us
MOS has made some mistakes but is not lost imo
Younger and Hall are a top D coach,  combo, best we have seen in a decade? Ritchie's D would be only one close to their level recent memory

In the past two second halves of football, the Bombers have put up a combined 14 points. That's not good enough, and we are heading into the weekend lucky to be 1-1 in our last two instead of 0-2. When I say he looks lost, I am not saying he is never going to get better, but as it stands our offense has been a disappointment most of the season and a big reason for that is the lack of opportunities given to guys like Oliveira and Wheatfall (until yesterday).

The reason I say MOS is lost is his attitude towards the media post-game. He seems a lot more sassy, on top of stacking questionable decisions both roster wise and in-game

[Blueforlife]

In the past two second halves of football, the Bombers have put up a combined 14 points. That's not good enough, and we are heading into the weekend lucky to be 1-1 in our last two instead of 0-2. When I say he looks lost, I am not saying he is never going to get better, but as it stands our offense has been a disappointment most of the season and a big reason for that is the lack of opportunities given to guys like Oliveira and Wheatfall (until yesterday).

The reason I say MOS is lost is his attitude towards the media post-game. He seems a lot more sassy, on top of stacking questionable decisions both roster wise and in-game

I disagree with the statement that that coaches are lost.  I don't think our biggest issue is coaching.

To base your statement about MOS being lost based on his interactions with media doesn't hold weight imo. 

Hogan needs to be better, yes.  Give it time.  2nd half offense needs to be better on the coaching and player side agree.  BO has been given the ball a reasonable amount, his success and carries will rise as the OL gets better.  Wheatie flashed early and and disappeared.  I don't think opportunities has anything to do with it.  He will find more consistency as he continues to develop.  Might be a player for a bit that just shines or doesn't.  I really like him.  Great game, just needs to string together 2-3 of these.  BO hasn't had a lack of opportunities, backed up by his run and pass touches.  Now that said I'm all the him touching it more!

Yah, I don't know about that, maybe rotation has been part of the problem. I think the 5 secondary positions should be fixed personnel wise, variations can be made at SAM, WIL and by adding a 2nd Safety when needed. Kramdi bouncing between positions should be avoided, it's going to lead to unnecessary confusion and breakdowns.

Rotation and flexibility is our strength imo, has been that way for years.  Keep em fresh and let everyone play.  Helps with next man up. 

[peg_city]

If the DB situation still looks good next week, I'll switch my answer to Oline.

Remember the good times

Bryant - Desjarlais - Couture - Neufeld - Hardrick
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[TecnoGenius]

The reason I say MOS is lost is his attitude towards the media post-game. He seems a lot more sassy, on top of stacking questionable decisions both roster wise and in-game

He's usually even keel.  If he has one pissy presser, I'll allow it.

He had to know the first question was going to be a loaded "why are you stupid and tried a FG"... Maybe he's mad that people don't know the MOS Book after a whole decade of it...

[TecnoGenius]

Allen seems to have very good ball skills, can't see any reason he couldn't play corner.

Allen is a baller.  And did you guys watch him?  He plays angry and nasty and with a big edge and chip.  He's clearly trying to instantly make a name for himself and leave a mark to keep a starting spot.

Has to be a bit careful though: just waving off MOS's comments with a thumbs up?  Have all the edge you want, but don't screw with the chain of command.

[TecnoGenius]

I thought the secondary showed some improvement yesterday. There has been a few games when the secondary was just a mess. They cutdown on the big plays yesterday really only getting beat by Hardy early in the game.

I was shocked how little OTT took mid/deep shots.  Didn't they get the memo we're weakest at DB?  They played like a normal game, dinking & dunking, with a smattering of deep shots.

If I was them I'd have Dru throwing rainbows deep all night, 1st & 2nd down.  They'd hit 50% and at 45Y+ it would make up for the misses.