Biggest issue

Started by Blueforlife, July 27, 2025, 08:00:07 PM

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What's our biggest problem?

OL
9 (22.5%)
CB
10 (25%)
DL
1 (2.5%)
QB
10 (25%)
Coaching
8 (20%)
Receiver
2 (5%)

Total Members Voted: 40

Blueforlife


BlueInCgy

All equally bad seems to be the best option

GOLDMEMBER

Season ticket holder since year 1 of the Reinbold era.

blue_or_die

This was a tough one, but I voted CB (which I assume you mean "DB"/entire secondary).

Probably taking more heat than they deserve though because we're often used to our offense having periods of stagnancy and then having our D bail us out. This was especially true as they consistently limited big gains and explosion plays but now those seem to be happening on the reg and we are getting blown out.

Some combination of bad OL play, Zach poor decision-making and lack of talent in the receiving core is not to be dismissed as a major problem, though. That one hurts my brain to think about though so I'll pick on Younger's secondary.

As I type this, maybe I should have just selected coaching...
#Ride?

Blueforlife

Very interesting results, I think a week ago more would have picked DL.  Things can change pretty quick.  Thanks to all that have voted.  Really telling and a little concerning that we have a bunch of issues all at once.  All about controlling the LOS for me.  I think our DL will be fine once we get Woods back.  OL is a big question mark.  Get that unit cooking and Brady will bully again.  It's the engine that drive this club and also protects our #1 asset.

peg_city

This feels like the end of the best bomber years since the 80s. This team doesn't have one issue or two. They have a bunch of issues. Last season, the losses were close. This season, we are losing badly.

The only bright spots are our RB and kicker.


Offense:

I hate to say it, but Collaros making 600K a season is an issue. He isn't worth 600K and hasn't been in 2 seasons.

Zach can't will us to a win anymore. Strev will never be able to. Our O-line is average. Our receiving core is below average with Shoen out.


Defense:

Our D-line is okay, our line backers are okay and our secondary is awful.

This feels like a leadership issue. On paper our defense isn't much different. And yet, we can't tackle, we can't get pressure and our secondary can't keep up.

I've written them off this season, unless we bring in some fresh talent.


BBFANDM

I would have to say Coaching because all areas are bad and the Coaches pick the players and coach them to their systems. You could argue don't have any strong positions of the ones listed...

Sir Blue and Gold

If I were ranking them in order of significance it's the quarterback, defensive line, offensive line, secondary, and offensive coordinator in that order.

bunker


dd

Quote from: peg_city on July 28, 2025, 08:57:18 PMThis feels like the end of the best bomber years since the 80s. This team doesn't have one issue or two. They have a bunch of issues. Last season, the losses were close. This season, we are losing badly.

The only bright spots are our RB and kicker.


Offense:

I hate to say it, but Collaros making 600K a season is an issue. He isn't worth 600K and hasn't been in 2 seasons.

Zach can't will us to a win anymore. Strev will never be able to. Our O-line is average. Our receiving core is below average with Shoen out.


Defense:

Our D-line is okay, our line backers are okay and our secondary is awful.

This feels like a leadership issue. On paper our defense isn't much different. And yet, we can't tackle, we can't get pressure and our secondary can't keep up.

I've written them off this season, unless we bring in some fresh talent.


Very good post and agree 100%. I am hopeful we can turn it around and be competitive, but as for playing the GC, that is nothing but a dream this season. We don't have anywhere near the horses at a number of positions.

Blue In BC

All. If the DL doesn't get pressure the secondary will suffer. Injuries on the OL and not great receivers beyond Demski. The coaches aren't helping but our execution is awful. Penalties and blown assignments for a multitude of reasons.

One game at a time.

TecnoGenius

Instantly I say "DB / OL".  I picked OL, why?  Because if we had a top-3 OL and maybe 1 other decent REC, then our O could put up points to match the crap the CBs are doing.

Kind of like the HAM/BC game.  The Ds were pretty ugly, giving up big plays and long drives, but the O's both were scoring big to keep everything close.

Big Stan needs to play, Lofton needs to play, pick your fave of Van/Ran to be LG and go back to our amazing Eli/Wallace jumbo.  Boom, we're a top-3 OL again.  Then buy the best LT in FA.  Maybe Neuf retires, FA a top RG.  Problem solved.

Oh ya, and fixing our OL also improves our lackluster run game...

Yes, it's all OL right now.
Never go full Rider!

Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 29, 2025, 05:53:07 AMInstantly I say "DB / OL".  I picked OL, why?  Because if we had a top-3 OL and maybe 1 other decent REC, then our O could put up points to match the crap the CBs are doing.

Kind of like the HAM/BC game.  The Ds were pretty ugly, giving up big plays and long drives, but the O's both were scoring big to keep everything close.

Big Stan needs to play, Lofton needs to play, pick your fave of Van/Ran to be LG and go back to our amazing Eli/Wallace jumbo.  Boom, we're a top-3 OL again.  Then buy the best LT in FA.  Maybe Neuf retires, FA a top RG.  Problem solved.

Oh ya, and fixing our OL also improves our lackluster run game...

Yes, it's all OL right now.

But therein lies the root. How do you suggest we get a top three offensive line when every year we lose a pretty good piece to free agency because we can't afford them? Why can't we afford them? Because the money is going elsewhere. Is elsewhere delivering? The answer this year is no. There's the real problem then.

Don't make Lofton into a savior. He's been a mid PFF ranked player for most of his career and there were lots of people in TC looking for an upgrade there. I'd rather continue developing Randall over Lofton and the difference won't be significant. Bryant will help in the sense we can probably get Vanterpool back at guard where he was super good. Assuming Bryant (who really hasn't had a great game all season) can eke out a bit above average which is an assumption that is by no means guaranteed.

Horseman

The following players need to be purged from the Bombers:

Neufeld - constantly getting embarrassed
Bryant - getting beat consistently
Bridges - gives up a lot of explosion plays
Bonds - can't cover
Collaros - past his prime, not worth the money (get Fajardo if possible), unless Elfersma comes back from the NFL
Jefferson - not producing for the last couple of years.

TBURGESS

IMO the real problem is hoping to get one more season out of former great players who are well past their prime. We managed to get away with it last year, but we should have known then, that we couldn't do it forever. 
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