Toronto @ Winnipeg Pregame

Started by Pigskin, July 27, 2025, 01:45:14 PM

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Jesse

Quote from: dd on July 31, 2025, 07:55:26 PMKramdi to safety sorta surprised me, I thought kelly would be moved to there. kramdi will bring a nasty physical presence for sure, and he knows our system so there should Ben fewer communication problems. For sure Toronto will go after our new SAM, but I think griffin I saw up to it

I like this set up so much more. Kramdi scares me a bit back there, but maybe he's asked to do different things than Parker.

Certainly he's as fast as late career BA.

Griffin already played 80% of snaps, which will probably go to Jones now, so I think the overall talent on D has been raised.
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Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: Jesse on July 31, 2025, 07:59:20 PMI like this set up so much more. Kramdi scares me a bit back there, but maybe he's asked to do different things than Parker.

Certainly he's as fast as late career BA.

Griffin already played 80% of snaps, which will probably go to Jones now, so I think the overall talent on D has been raised.

Our defense with Hall and now Younger has always had a degree of trickery around the safety. It's why they liked BA back there and the overall skillset he had. They like to try and force the QB into an additional read when they can. Kramdi won't always play over the top, I wouldn't think. Not like a Loffler set-up or something before. Kramdi and a halfback can flip concepts and such. When you bring him closer into the box you can do even more.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on July 31, 2025, 07:59:20 PMI like this set up so much more. Kramdi scares me a bit back there, but maybe he's asked to do different things than Parker.

Certainly he's as fast as late career BA.

Griffin already played 80% of snaps, which will probably go to Jones now, so I think the overall talent on D has been raised.

The catch for Kramdi is communicating to the defence with 3 changes in the secondary as a starting point. In theory he has high football IQ and knows what each player is doing.
One game at a time.

Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 31, 2025, 08:16:13 PMThe catch for Kramdi is communicating to the defence with 3 changes in the secondary as a starting point. In theory he has high football IQ and knows what each player is doing.

He's also been a regular starter for years and should be more experienced with the D calls than Parker.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on July 31, 2025, 08:35:15 PMHe's also been a regular starter for years and should be more experienced with the D calls than Parker.

Except we've had a new DC the last two years and have changed some things. So fair point possibly but high football IQ at the player level doesn't always show up at the group level. That said he's gotten kudos for directing others in the secondary so he should have the right stuff.

Regardless of what happens this week we may see more changes next week. Woods will be eligible to come off 6 game IR. Bryant and / or Vanterpool might be available.

Collaros might be back.

Makonzo was eligible this week but who would he replace?

Logan is a mystery.

The " new " WR might be ready to get a look depending on how he does in practice and how this set of receivers does tomorrow.

We don't need 4 DB's on the PR. We do need another DT and possibly an OL for depth.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 31, 2025, 08:15:49 PMOur defense with Hall and now Younger has always had a degree of trickery around the safety. It's why they liked BA back there and the overall skillset he had. They like to try and force the QB into an additional read when they can. Kramdi won't always play over the top, I wouldn't think. Not like a Loffler set-up or something before. Kramdi and a halfback can flip concepts and such. When you bring him closer into the box you can do even more.Kramdi won't always play over the top, I wouldn't think. Not like a Loffler set-up or something before. 

I think what you're describing is more an example of Hall's defence, Younger tends to leave the Safety deep and doesn't involve him in as much run stopping. 

Not sure Parker has the right personality to be a great communicator he may betoo chill, BA was like old man Rivers back there dispensing wisdom and telling folk tales, and Kramdi is a non-stop yapper, he's going to be relentlessly annoying getting his message across.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 31, 2025, 07:43:46 AMI can't recall their names right at this moment, but seriously we were having this exactly same convo and issue like 6-9 years ago about other rookie(ish) DBs.  (If someone can remember some names, that would be cool!)  Oooh, it's on the tip of my mind... who was that one guy everyone in the world saw stunk except MOS?... come on... maybe 2017?  He was the laughing stock whipping boy here for half the season!


Roc Carmichael.

Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 31, 2025, 08:43:51 PMExcept we've had a new DC the last two years and have changed some things. So fair point possibly but high football IQ at the player level doesn't always show up at the group level. That said he's gotten kudos for directing others in the secondary so he should have the right stuff.

At least Kramdi was starting last year under Younger whereas Parker was injured an didn't take a snap.
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dd

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 31, 2025, 09:49:23 PMRoc Carmichael.
Auuuugh, don't say his name, 10 years of therapy down the drain!!

Big Daddy

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 31, 2025, 09:49:23 PMRoc Carmichael.

Wow - I am so impressed with the memories here.  I only vaguely remember the name, and nothing more.

BBFANDM

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 31, 2025, 08:43:51 PMExcept we've had a new DC the last two years and have changed some things. So fair point possibly but high football IQ at the player level doesn't always show up at the group level. That said he's gotten kudos for directing others in the secondary so he should have the right stuff.

Regardless of what happens this week we may see more changes next week. Woods will be eligible to come off 6 game IR. Bryant and / or Vanterpool might be available.

Collaros might be back.

Makonzo was eligible this week but who would he replace?

Logan is a mystery.

The " new " WR might be ready to get a look depending on how he does in practice and how this set of receivers does tomorrow.

We don't need 4 DB's on the PR. We do need another DT and possibly an OL for depth.
A new DC the last 2 years ? Younger has been the DC the last 2 he was very good last year after a slow start but this year started well the first 3 but poor the last 3.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: BBFANDM on August 01, 2025, 01:57:28 AMA new DC the last 2 years ? Younger has been the DC the last 2 he was very good last year after a slow start but this year started well the first 3 but poor the last 3.

I think CFL OC's had the winter to study Younger's DB heavy defence and devised ways to combat it.  It's a lovely scheme when it works but it sucks when it breaks down! With so many DB's on the field they should be leading the league in interceptions.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 31, 2025, 09:49:23 PMRoc Carmichael.

The ROC!  Yes!  Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you

That was the name I was dying to remember.

Ya, so even Bridges isn't that bad.  Yikes.  Sorry for the PTSD guys!
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on July 31, 2025, 08:35:15 PMHe's also been a regular starter for years and should be more experienced with the D calls than Parker.

Parker is in year 3 (weird, I thought it was more), so he's no slouch.  But Kramdi is only in year 4 of starting.

Parker never struck me as a genius (no one ever touted it like with Kramdi), and if we need high IQ to QB the DBs, then this move to Kramdi is a good one.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 31, 2025, 07:55:31 PMI think Parker was always very fast and he didn't get beat out, he got injured or would have been starting in 2024.

Yup, he was the next Houston/Nichols/Alford in training, following his dev path very well indeed.  Until IR.

However, Parker is the one that looked foolish losing the game for us late in '23 GC on that 3rd & 3 rainbow by MTL.  Don't watch that play again, you'll cry.

Overall I think Parker is a very good DB.  Better than Bridges OR Bonds, and he's clearly versatile, which is infinitely valuable.
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