Collaros Status

Started by BBFANDM, July 27, 2025, 02:56:18 AM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: BlueInCgy on July 28, 2025, 02:30:12 AMActually, I was fairly adamant on both points at the time, despite those here who were quite vocal about how they'd  never want BLM in Blue and Gold, how he was a lousy human being because he talked trash about the Bombers once during the Nicols era, etc, etc.  I guarantee you had we made that move in 23 we wouldn't be 0-3 in the last 3 Grey Cups.

The Brown decision was massively short sighted.

Right, we wouldn't have even made it to the cups in those 3 years.  BLM stunk horribly in his first few years in HAM.  He only really started looking good about halfway through '24.

BLM is as dependent on a good supporting cast as Zach is.  Both MUST have a good OL.  MUST.  It's not optional.  Both MUST have decent RECs, including 2 top-10.  If they don't have these things then they tend to suck bad.

It just so happens now BLM has those things and we don't, because Ted stole all of our players, basically.  Made a Bombers 2.0 over there.  Smart guy.

As for Dru, he has done absolutely nothing since leaving here.  If he had remained as our #1 we would have never made it out of a SF.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: 3rdand1.5 on July 27, 2025, 10:12:39 PMIt's clear either;

a)We don't have the the athletes to play Youngers schemes
b)The athletes we have don't understand Youngers schemes well enough to execute at an acceptable level


All season we have seen fundamental coverage issues and lack of cohesion and communication, it's not one or two guys it's the entire grouping

Great post.  What makes it sadder is we have 3 of 5 DBs that can, and 2 that ruin it for everyone else...

I also think cutting both "QBs of the D" (Biggie/BA) is taking longer to fix/replace than maybe we would have thought.  The collective IQ of the LB/DB units may have taken a big hit when they left.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 27, 2025, 06:06:57 PMYikes!  Maybe Younger's revolutionary defensive schemes have been cracked, or maybe there's a reason 3 man rushes and 8 DB coverage never caught on.

We've been doing very very little 3-man DL this season.  There's a ton of straight up normal 4 DL shown / 4 rush going on.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on July 29, 2025, 05:24:59 AMHey that was Sargent Schultz who said he knew nooothing, and loved apple strudel!!

Indeed you are correct.  ;D   I'm in the new 'vid brain fog at the moment, and everything sorta blends together.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: The Zipp on July 27, 2025, 05:33:01 PMinteresting stat courtesy of Zach Schnitzer:

#Argos' first five completions of the game vs the #Bombers' struggling secondary were passes of 41, 33, 27, 30, 11,  and 18 yards, including two touchdowns. Collaros had five completions the entire first half, two of them interceptions.

we got our butts kicked - no question.

After watching the other games this weekend, I'm not sure how we will beat anyone.  Did you see BC/HAM?  We could only dream of executing like that on O.  Only dream.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Stretch on July 27, 2025, 05:12:15 PMHave you never read a post from Tecno before? Lots of If's to help make sure he can't be proven wrong.

Well, I am a programmer 24/7.  My entire life since 13 is "if this then that".  So ya, I put in a lot of conditionals. 8)
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: BomberFan73 on July 27, 2025, 04:45:16 PMQuestion (I don't follow salaries that closely), but if Zach was deemed not able to play next year due to injury, would insurance cover his salary and the Bombers not have that count to our cap next year?

Pretty sure there's no "insurance", seperatate entity that covers payouts in case of IR.  Besides "real money" isn't the issue: it's SMS money.  Technically if we give him no bonuses, and put him on the 6G the entire season then he costs us NOTHING on the SMS.

And we can cut him any time we want (before vet cut deadline), though the contracts may have some vet severance bonuses we'd have to pay (on SMS).  If you had any eye whatsoever on a hair trigger Zach cut, you'd try to minimize bonuses, and vet cut payouts.  I have no idea if KW did this... he doesn't seem to give it much thought in the past.
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BomberFan73

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 29, 2025, 04:57:39 AMThe post-game presser says nothing of the short.  I listened to it again just to be sure.  The only thing MOS will said is he is Col Klink - he knows nooooooothing about Zach.  "no update"

Just like someone posted MOS said "neck", it's not true.  If we're going to post MOS "quotes" then either be accurate, or post the link and give us a timestamp.

I haven't even watched the video clip, I listened on CJOB right after the game. I don't know if that is the same interview - but I maintain what I heard. You can accept it, or not. Seems you've already made up your mind and are not willing to budge.

Ridermania

Going to be interesting at today's practice and who's injured.

Throw Long Bannatyne

#84
Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 29, 2025, 04:59:42 AMOMG, how can everyone watch the same presser and make up words in their head?  Tell me in the presser where he says that.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/07/26/coach-oshea-july-26-4/

He made that statement during his CJOB post-game interview, which is a different than the press conference you posted.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 29, 2025, 04:11:11 PMHe made that statement during his CJOB post-game interview, which is a different than the press conference you posted.

Well that explains the divergent memories!

Quote from: BomberFan73 on July 29, 2025, 02:53:52 PMI haven't even watched the video clip, I listened on CJOB right after the game. I don't know if that is the same interview - but I maintain what I heard. You can accept it, or not. Seems you've already made up your mind and are not willing to budge.

Yowzers.  I was only saying the post-game I saw didn't have that info.  I forgot about the 'OB post-game, though usually they just say the same thing.

So I listened:

https://globalnews.ca/pages/audio-vault-cjob/

MOS does say the yank was "not performance related" on the 'OB.  No mention of "neck" or anything specific.

Sneaky MOS doing sneaky MOS things:

Brown: "was it injury or performance related"
MOS: "it was not performance related"

Most people when asked if something is A or B will say A (or B).  Leave it to MOS to say "the answer is NOT B", LOL.  He's made of some mythical "C" option in his head, and he's sticking to it!  ;D  ;D  ;D
Never go full Rider!

dd

OShea can use all the weasel words he wants, we all watched the game, Collaros stunk and MOs is standing by defending his player like he always does, good for him, it's how he gets the players to play so hard for him, but we aren't blind or stupid. We know what we saw,

BomberFan73

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 30, 2025, 03:37:38 AMWell that explains the divergent memories!

Yowzers.  I was only saying the post-game I saw didn't have that info.  I forgot about the 'OB post-game, though usually they just say the same thing.

So I listened:

https://globalnews.ca/pages/audio-vault-cjob/

MOS does say the yank was "not performance related" on the 'OB.  No mention of "neck" or anything specific.



no, you accused myself (and others) of making up information. If that last post had snarl it is because I don't take kindly to that. Just because you haven't heard something doesn't make it false.

Ridermania

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 29, 2025, 05:25:17 AMUh, that may be the craziest idea I've seen yet.  Arbuckle is not a #1 anywhere, never has been (even though some tried for a few games), never will be.  And he's like 77 like Zach is... how is sticking with "old" going to help anything?

Arbuckle lucked into just 1 win this season before they beat us, mostly because of their D.  Arbuckle only wins because of QB Whisperer Dinwiddie planning absolutely everything around him.  And the very first second he can, he too will bench Arbuckle so they can start winning again.

Why would the Argos make a silly trade like that when they have Chad Kelly signed for a few more seasons? 

And TOR is playing with substandard units and lack of talent, but they are playing like they intend to get better, and fast, and that they think they'll be a top team when Kelly returns.  They are probably right.  Contrast to the way we are playing...

That said, Arbuckle would make a good backup.  However, he won't come at the $100k Strevy Kmart blue light special deal price.


The Zipp

All speculation at this point but given Zach missed time the game prior it would seem that he wasn't fully healed or rere-aggrivated his injury to the extent he couldn't perform due to pain or risk of long term impacts.

Neck injkuiries can be tricky/dangerous and then layered with known concussion history seems like he needs some time to heal.  I am fully expecting him to miss some time.  Wish it wasn't the case but that is life in sports...next man up