Collaros Status

[Ducky]

interesting stat courtesy of Zach Schnitzer:

#Argos' first five completions of the game vs the #Bombers' struggling secondary were passes of 41, 33, 27, 30, 11,  and 18 yards, including two touchdowns. Collaros had five completions the entire first half, two of them interceptions.

we got our butts kicked - no question. 

That is horrific.

Team not ready to start - again.

Collaros bad - again.

D cant cover anyone.

[tlf]

That is horrific.

Team not ready to start - again.

Collaros bad - again.

D cant cover anyone.

I don't take Schnitzer seriously..he picks his favorites and writes that way.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Question (I don't follow salaries that closely), but if Zach was deemed not able to play next year due to injury, would insurance cover his salary and the Bombers not have that count to our cap next year?
I didn't like that extension at the time, but this could be a likely outcome.

His contract for next season is not guaranteed, the Bombers could rip it up, trade him or renegotiate a lower rate if they see fit.  There's likely a signing bonus payment scheduled in the off-season that could force their hand before next season begins.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

interesting stat courtesy of Zach Schnitzer:

#Argos' first five completions of the game vs the #Bombers' struggling secondary were passes of 41, 33, 27, 30, 11,  and 18 yards, including two touchdowns. Collaros had five completions the entire first half, two of them interceptions.

we got our butts kicked - no question. 

Yikes!  Maybe Younger's revolutionary defensive schemes have been cracked, or maybe there's a reason 3 man rushes and 8 DB coverage never caught on.  Might be time to reel his experimentation in and move back towards what worked well during the Richie Hall days.

Hogan reminds me of Riders offensive coordinator Kelly Jeffrey, he was an unexpected/unqualified hire that only lasted one year before being replaced.

[Blueforlife]

Yikes!  Maybe Younger's revolutionary defensive schemes have been cracked, or maybe there's a reason 3 man rushes and 8 DB coverage never caught on.  Might be time to reel his experimentation in and move back towards what worked well during the Richie Hall days.

Hogan reminds me of Riders offensive coordinator Kelly Jeffrey, he was an unexpected/unqualified hire that only lasted one year before being replaced.

Younger will continue to learn.  His schemes are good.  Hall is nice to have there as his mentor.  I don't see us going back to a Hall type D but I never had an issue with it!!!

Zach is good to great when healthy and behind a good OL.

Strev has been up and down to be sure but has some worth still.

Wilson has all the tools and in a few years could be a good option.

Our QB room is about the same as it has been for a long time.  Live or die with Zach.  I think we have another year with him as our leader as long as he gets protection and can be healthy

[The Zipp]

I don't take Schnitzer seriously..he picks his favorites and writes that way.

it's facts not any sort of conjecture  - Zach is a great Bomber fan

[bomb squad]

Collaros's future in terms of his health is the concern for me. For it's impact on both him and the team. As for his play, he's going through some struggles, but I have no doubt he's still got it and he will get it figured out it. If he can still play that is.

[tlf]

it's facts not any sort of conjecture  - Zach is a great Bomber fan

Sure he's a good fan.  Bonfire is just not my style and that's ok.

[3rdand1.5]

It's clear either;

a)We don't have the the athletes to play Youngers schemes
b)The athletes we have don't understand Youngers schemes well enough to execute at an acceptable level

All season we have seen fundamental coverage issues and lack of cohesion and communication, it's not one or two guys it's the entire grouping

It also appears we don't have the athletes to play "Zach's" style of gunslinger game.....

[Doublezero]

Just looking at some stats six games or 1/3 into the season. ZC has the worst QB efficiency rating of the 9 regular starting QBs so far in 2025. Collaros also has the highest INT percentage with 8 INTs vs 7 TDs. Colloros's QB efficiency rating isn't just the worst among starters, at 89.1  it is significantly worse than the others. You could argue Zach has the weakest receiver unit in the league which would contribute to this inefficiency. But looking back at 2024 with a better crop of receivers, Collaros threw 19 INT vs 21 TDs - this includes 4 INTS in the GREY CUP and 4 TDs in West Final - which gave Zach the worst INT percentage last year among QBs who started 10 games or more. That is a total of 28 INT versus 28 TDs in the past 25 games in which Collaros has appeared. Yes you can lay some of that on the receivers. But still. This is not to take away from Zach's substantial contribution since he arrived here in 2019 - respect! But the decline in Collaros's performance since around August 11 2023 neck injury vs Elks (when Dru Brown came off the bench to win the game) is clear as day.

[The Zipp]

Just looking at some stats six games or 1/3 into the season. ZC has the worst QB efficiency rating of the 9 regular starting QBs so far in 2025. Collaros also has the highest INT percentage with 8 INTs vs 7 TDs. Colloros's QB efficiency rating isn't just the worst among starters, at 89.1  it is significantly worse than the others. You could argue Zach has the weakest receiver unit in the league which would contribute to this inefficiency. But looking back at 2024 with a better crop of receivers, Collaros threw 19 INT vs 21 TDs - this includes 4 INTS in the GREY CUP and 4 TDs in West Final - which gave Zach the worst INT percentage last year among QBs who started 10 games or more. That is a total of 28 INT versus 28 TDs in the past 25 games in which Collaros has appeared. Yes you can lay some of that on the receivers. But still. This is not to take away from Zach's substantial contribution since he arrived here in 2019 - respect! But the decline in Collaros's performance since around August 11 2023 neck injury vs Elks (when Dru Brown came off the bench to win the game) is clear as day.

good info - thanks

[BlueInCgy]

While we've historically been peeety good at moving people off before their expiration date, I think we've missed that window with Collaros, partly at least due to the credit he rightly deserves for past seasons.  And we don't have a viable second option at the moment.  In hindsight letting Brown walk and not trying to pickup BLM when he was in the outs with the TiCats in 23 were tactical errors.

[dd]

The biggest thing hurting Collaros right now is the play of our O line, which has been about the weakest in the league, and the fact he doesn't have Lawler and Schoen to throw to anymore--our recieving corps is the weakest in the league. Add to that our secondary and DL are pretty weak, and we didn't re-sign our ace kick returner and you have yourself a problem. Our secondary looks confused half the time. I think we have lost too much critical mass in our lineup to win a Grey Cup this year, at this point, I am hoping we can play competitively !!

[Blueforlife]

While we've historically been peeety good at moving people off before their expiration date, I think we've missed that window with Collaros, partly at least due to the credit he rightly deserves for past seasons.  And we don't have a viable second option at the moment.  In hindsight letting Brown walk and not trying to pickup BLM when he was in the outs with the TiCats in 23 were tactical errors.

So easy to say now.  We passed on Brown when Zach was still very good and passed on BO when he was very bad.  Zach got us to another cup.  Was no error there imo.

[BlueInCgy]

So easy to say now.  We passed on Brown when Zach was still very good and passed on BO when he was very bad.  Zach got us to another cup.  Was no error there imo.

Actually, I was fairly adamant on both points at the time, despite those here who were quite vocal about how they'd  never want BLM in Blue and Gold, how he was a lousy human being because he talked trash about the Bombers once during the Nicols era, etc, etc.  I guarantee you had we made that move in 23 we wouldn't be 0-3 in the last 3 Grey Cups.

 The Brown decision was massively short sighted.

And Zach has gone 0-3 in the three games that counted.  Getting us to the game means very little if you can't win it.