Collaros Status

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Agreed. Vavalhad the game of his life and our D line Jefferson must have had 8 knockdowns+++an incredible display.

Strev did everything he could to lose the game yet is herslded as some saviour, I just don't get why fans are reluctant to give their praise to those who deserve it vs praise some bumpkin who almost lost them the game

Let's be clear here, we won the game DESPITE streveller not because of streveller !!

Going back to last season Strev generates on average 1 TD per game, the D has to play  extraordinarily well to win games with that level of output.  So far this season the defence looks to be middle of the pack, even when they play fairly well there seems to be plenty of weakness and breakdowns.  Hopefully Kramdi can be the one to unite the secondary in the next few games, as it looks like they are lacking leadership.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Simple, you pray your QB is healthy all post-season.  That's it.  That's all.

Look at CGY.  If VAJ goes down in for the post-season they are ROYALLY SCREWED.  Same in SSK.  Haha, Maier winning them a GC, is even more laughable and Arbuckle doing it.

That's how you generally go deep in the post-season in the CFL.  You hope & pray your franchise QB is healthy.

Any other scenario is an unusual abberation.  Like TOR winning the GC in '24.

Ok, there are 2 other options that can work:

1) Your #2 QB is a wunderkind rookie (MTL's Alexander last season)

2) Your #1 is toast before the deadline so you can finagle a trade for the best backup out there on a team that won't be in the playoffs or has way too many QBs (Collaros to WPG anyone?)

Who cares about the loser's strategy?  The Bombers 2 biggest rivals for the GC, the Als and the Argos, both have 2nd string QB's in place capable of winning games in the playoffs. Also odds are Strev. can't stay healthy through the playoffs, I believe he's 1 for 3 on that count and the one time he made it, he was playing with a broken bone.

[GOLDMEMBER]

Great game by Strev

He did what he needed to do!

[dd]

Going back to last season Strev generates on average 1 TD per game, the D has to play  extraordinarily well to win games with that level of output.  So far this season the defence looks to be middle of the pack, even when they play fairly well there seems to be plenty of weakness and breakdowns.  Hopefully Kramdi can be the one to unite the secondary in the next few games, as it looks like they are lacking leadership.

The D line, primarily Jefferson played a HUGE role in the victory knocking down at least 8 passes and forcing a fumble they returned for a TD. I don't think they could have played any better. Our secondary, yeesh, they are our weakest link and as long as the D line can knock down passes and pressure the ball, that will minimize exposing our backend for big plays. Against VAJ expecting plays, lots of em

[markf]

I wonder what Zach would do with an O line that can't open a hole for Brady Oliveira, and a team with, (as nearly as I can tell) one running play, and one effective offensive weapon, Demski.

Our game plan on O ... whatever it is, (and it doesn't look like much) has been figured out by all of the other teams. I hope there is a bit of a shakeup there. Last season, in difficult circumstances, the Elks had the league leading Offence under Jarious.

Wilson is great at short yardage, so there's that.

[bunker]

I wonder what Zach would do with an O line that can't open a hole for Brady Oliveira, and a team with, (as nearly as I can tell) one running play, and one effective offensive weapon, Demski.

Our game plan on O ... whatever it is, (and it doesn't look like much) has been figured out by all of the other teams.

Wilson is great at short yardage, so there's that.

This off-season most of the Other teams got better, and we got worse.

All sports dynasties and mini dynasties have an end point. You never know, specially with OShea, but we sure look like we've reached it.

I've certainly had those thoughts myself. But it's also worth noting we are missing Collaros, Bryant, Vanterpool, and Schoen. Three of those are high impact players. Collaros and Bryant will be back. Vanterpool also, and ratio permitting I think he's an upgrade on Wallace.  I'm hoping Schoen might be back also later in the year. Peyton Logan will also eventually be healthy although not sure how we get him on the roster the way Vaval is playing. We could also get Pokey Wilson back before the playoffs.

So although that offensive performance last night was awful (and against a team giving up an average of over 29 points a game), things could get better.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I've certainly had those thoughts myself. But it's also worth noting we are missing Collaros, Bryant, Vanterpool, and Schoen. Three of those are high impact players. Collaros and Bryant will be back. Vanterpool also, and ratio permitting I think he's an upgrade on Wallace.  I'm hoping Schoen might be back also later in the year. Peyton Logan will also eventually be healthy although not sure how we get him on the roster the way Vaval is playing. We could also get Pokey Wilson back before the playoffs.

So although that offensive performance last night was awful (and against a team giving up an average of over 29 points a game), things could get better.

Have come to realize Zach has not kept up with his fellow old timers BLM and Harris, both are currently playing as well as they did in their prime.  Thought maybe he would be reinvigorated this year but so far he hasn't shown it.

[Jesse]

Have come to realize Zach has not kept with his fellow old timers BLM and Harris, both are currently playing as well as they did in their prime.  Thought maybe he would be reinvigorated this year but so far he hasn't showed it.

Both have also had incredibly useless years in between their primes and now.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Both have also had incredibly useless years in between their primes and now.

Incredibly useless or playing on bad teams?

[dd]

I've certainly had those thoughts myself. But it's also worth noting we are missing Collaros, Bryant, Vanterpool, and Schoen. Three of those are high impact players. Collaros and Bryant will be back. Vanterpool also, and ratio permitting I think he's an upgrade on Wallace.  I'm hoping Schoen might be back also later in the year. Peyton Logan will also eventually be healthy although not sure how we get him on the roster the way Vaval is playing. We could also get Pokey Wilson back before the playoffs.

So although that offensive performance last night was awful (and against a team giving up an average of over 29 points a game), things could get better.

Peyton Logan lost his job, pretty tough to take out tre vaval when he scored 2 tds in one game!! That's grant like status!!

[TecnoGenius]

Who cares about the loser's strategy?  The Bombers 2 biggest rivals for the GC, the Als and the Argos

Uh, I think this year, of all years, we have to worry about the "losers" CGY and SSK much more than we do TOR/MTL!  We're going to be hard pressed to win the W and/or get out of the W into the GC.

As for TOR/MTL, I would say Strev gives as good a chance to win as MBT, all things being equal.  Same with Arbuckle, actually.  He hasn't won squat in TOR except vs us.  Just because he won a GC doesn't make him good.

Ya, sure, those other guys "can throw", and can "read defenses", better than Strev.  And yet they still can't win much more than Strev!  Weird, huh?

If Strev has the best complete team like MTL did in '23, and TOR did in '24, then Strev probably can win us a cup too.  Not something I want to witness, but these guys are all .500 QBs as backups.

Don't get me wrong, I still think that if faced with the scenario we'll trade for a "real" QB, we did it before, we can do it again.  But it's not like 99% of the other teams aren't in the same boat we are in terms of backups.  The only backup I like as a "future starter" is HAM & Powell.

[TecnoGenius]

our run game isn't firing on all cylinders right now.

It's a function of bad / inexperienced OL, and weak RECs making for a non-balanced non-complimentary overall attack.

Makes me wonder, though, if Brady isn't just "average", and has always looked beast simply because he had a superb OL and a very balanced O attack so opponents couldn't just play the run.

Brady's stats are very weak this season.  Soooo many 0-3 yard runs.  Last night I think he busted one out 9+, right?  On a loooot of attempts.

We still need vastly improved OL production (and all starters healthy), and we have to make them pay on run blitzes so we decongest the box.  Otherwise Brady will be lucky to finish 6th in the league.

[TecnoGenius]

Peyton Logan lost his job, pretty tough to take out tre vaval when he scored 2 tds in one game!! That's grant like status!!

Nah, just keep him on the 6G, keeping him "hurt" all season, until/if Vaval gets hurt (KRs eventually do).  Everyone is happy: Logan gets his full pay check, and we get full SMS relief to spend elsewhere.

And we have a superb backup who can step in when needed, maybe even the post-season.

Far from being a bad situation, it's actually the ideal situation!

[TecnoGenius]

Our game plan on O ... whatever it is, (and it doesn't look like much) has been figured out by all of the other teams. I hope there is a bit of a shakeup there. Last season, in difficult circumstances, the Elks had the league leading Offence under Jarious.

Except they were still losing pretty bigly... And teams always in garbage-time (like HAM last year) always get big stats boosts.

I'm not sure Jarious is the savior here.

[Blue In BC]

Nah, just keep him on the 6G, keeping him "hurt" all season, until/if Vaval gets hurt (KRs eventually do).  Everyone is happy: Logan gets his full pay check, and we get full SMS relief to spend elsewhere.

And we have a superb backup who can step in when needed, maybe even the post-season.

Far from being a bad situation, it's actually the ideal situation!

Logan isn't on the 6 game IR and I've been asking why all season. We know he can't practice for the 1st 4 games on 6 game IR. However how did they not understand the extent of his injury in TC?

So whatever his SMS hit is, it is counting against the total. I don't imagine it's a big number but that's not the point. If he was healthy and they were just hiding him like they've done with some other that would more acceptable IMO.  Will he even be able to practice this week?