Collaros Status

Started by BBFANDM, July 27, 2025, 02:56:18 AM

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Strevy

Streveler is better than Zach.  Not a high bar but still addition by subtraction.  Put him on the 6 game and save salary for late season pickups.  Getting Powell out of Hammy should be priority 2.  Priority 1 is roster management.  Why start 9 Nationals.....?  Dumb.

LXTSN

Quote from: Strevy on August 01, 2025, 01:01:09 PMStreveler is better than Zach.  Not a high bar but still addition by subtraction.  Put him on the 6 game and save salary for late season pickups.  Getting Powell out of Hammy should be priority 2.  Priority 1 is roster management.  Why start 9 Nationals.....?  Dumb.
If Collaros goes on the 6-game, I'd like to see Wilson get a couple games. We know what Strev can do, and he can help us win a game here and there. If Zach were to hang up the cleats after this season, I don't think Streveler would be a good full time starter. I want to know if Terry has what it takes!

Jesse

You'd think after 20 or 30 years of watching football. And clamouring for the back-up QB to get a shot. And watching the back-up suck completely over and over and over, people would learn that they're at the back of the depth chart for a reason.
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LXTSN

Quote from: Jesse on August 01, 2025, 01:15:11 PMYou'd think after 20 or 30 years of watching football. And clamouring for the back-up QB to get a shot. And watching the back-up suck completely over and over and over, people would learn that they're at the back of the depth chart for a reason.
I maybe should rephrase that.
I don't think that Terry has what it takes. There are other guys on the NEG list that I really like and think they would be a better fit. I would like him to get 2-3 games as an audition for our future.
In the other thread about the Bombers 3rd best QB of the century, it's funny to hear some of the names of QB's we tried out in-between these 3 guys. There's going to be some trail and error before we find our next one.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 01, 2025, 03:26:07 AMAnd yet everyone loved Hogan in the 1st 3 games!  We managed to beat BC twice, and they've shown they can win games, even beating MTL.

I'm not ready to put the blame on Hogan yet.  After all, he has added the delayed draw to the repertoire, and you know I just love a delayed draw.

I'll be the first to admit I was pleasantly surprised by the first three games. The offense looked like it hadn't missed a beat.

The last three games have me pivoting, though. Hogan deserves his fair share of the blame just as the rest of the offense does, IMO. They need to improve as a whole, which includes how the OC gameplans and prepares.
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Quote from: LXTSN on August 01, 2025, 01:20:52 PMI maybe should rephrase that.
I don't think that Terry has what it takes. There are other guys on the NEG list that I really like and think they would be a better fit. I would like him to get 2-3 games as an audition for our future.
In the other thread about the Bombers 3rd best QB of the century, it's funny to hear some of the names of QB's we tried out in-between these 3 guys. There's going to be some trail and error before we find our next one.

I agree with you.  We have kept Wilson around for a reason. We'll need to find out if we should be keeping him around for next year. I'd like to see him play, but that will all depend on Strev.

Jesse

Quote from: LXTSN on August 01, 2025, 01:20:52 PMI maybe should rephrase that.
I don't think that Terry has what it takes. There are other guys on the NEG list that I really like and think they would be a better fit. I would like him to get 2-3 games as an audition for our future.
In the other thread about the Bombers 3rd best QB of the century, it's funny to hear some of the names of QB's we tried out in-between these 3 guys. There's going to be some trail and error before we find our next one.

Maybe there'll be a time this season to give a young QB a shot "just to see", but not while we're in play off contention in a home Grey Cup year. The "best team in the league" just dropped two in a row. The last team people said that about has their starting QB on the 6 game IR. There is still a lot of season to go so we need to continue to put our best foot forward every week.

In the absence of Zach, that means Strev goes in.
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Jesse

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on August 01, 2025, 01:47:32 PMI'll be the first to admit I was pleasantly surprised by the first three games. The offense looked like it hadn't missed a beat.

The last three games have me pivoting, though. Hogan deserves his fair share of the blame just as the rest of the offense does, IMO. They need to improve as a whole, which includes how the OC gameplans and prepares.

Even during the wins, we were criticizing the "lulls" where we seemed to have long stretches of throwing the ball to the line of scrimmage repeatedly and drives stalling.
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Waffler

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 01, 2025, 03:29:24 AMBecause they don't respect Strev, they'll cheat up on every pass they can looking for the INT.

This would be a mistake I hope they make. We can make them pay with stop and go type routes. At this stage Strev has a considerably stronger arm than Collaros.

What I don't like is just the one practice for Strev at QB1 this week.
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LXTSN

Quote from: Waffler on August 01, 2025, 02:18:34 PMThis would be a mistake I hope they make. We can make them pay with stop and go type routes. At this stage Strev has a considerably stronger arm than Collaros.

What I don't like is just the one practice for Strev at QB1 this week.
I'm not sure that's true. Zach can hit Demski and Schoen in stride on those corner routes, but I don't think Strev has that in him. Strev has put some nice zip on the ball on his out routes and throws over the middle this season though!

Ducky

Quote from: LXTSN on August 01, 2025, 02:24:23 PMI'm not sure that's true. Zach can hit Demski and Schoen in stride on those corner routes, but I don't think Strev has that in him. Strev has put some nice zip on the ball on his out routes and throws over the middle this season though!

For the past season and this one, Collaros misses far more than he makes. Chronically underthrows the deep ball. 

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on August 01, 2025, 01:48:56 PMMaybe there'll be a time this season to give a young QB a shot "just to see", but not while we're in play off contention in a home Grey Cup year. The "best team in the league" just dropped two in a row. The last team people said that about has their starting QB on the 6 game IR. There is still a lot of season to go so we need to continue to put our best foot forward every week.

In the absence of Zach, that means Strev goes in.

Can't see it under O'Shea, he only allows Strev to play when Zach is out, same goes for Wilson who's stuck behind Strev. Could be headed off another cliff in the playoffs if Zach gets hurt, but why do anything to avoid that scenario, Strev can win games every once in awhile.  He's terrible at developing QB's, they should hand that role to Jackson and tell O'Shea to keep his fingers out of the pie.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 01, 2025, 06:12:50 PMCan't see it under O'Shea, he only allows Strev to play when Zach is out, same goes for Wilson who's stuck behind Strev. Could be headed off another cliff in the playoffs if Zach gets hurt, but why do anything to avoid that scenario, Strev can win games every once in awhile.  He's terrible at developing QB's, they should hand that role to Jackson and tell O'Shea to keep his fingers out of the pie.

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Quote from: Jesse on August 01, 2025, 06:17:36 PM::)

I'm not wrong. What happened last season?  What changes have been implemented to avoid the exact same scenario from occurring?

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on August 01, 2025, 07:14:09 PMI'm not wrong, imagine working somewhere for 2
I'm not wrong. What happened last season?  What changes have been implemented to avoid the exact same scenario from occurring?

We've been in contention for first place every year. There is very little opportunity/desire/reason to remove your starting QB in those conditions. Strev is an experienced back-up. Having him hand off the ball a couple of times in the 4th Qtr isn't going to help him prepare. Wilson is 3rd string for a reason. Having him on the field isn't desired or helpful when we're trying to win.

If you're a bad team and keeping an eye on the future, then maybe you look for those opportunities.
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