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Started by BBFANDM, July 27, 2025, 02:56:18 AM

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BBFANDM

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 27, 2025, 02:57:54 AMI think it's a neck injury officially?
O'Shea said he has no idea what he issue is with Zach I didn't hear Neck did they say that on TSN ?

TecnoGenius

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on July 27, 2025, 03:02:09 AMSo I guess Techno was wrong then...claimed Bombers pulled him because of his terrible play.

No, I said it was to save face and put in our best chance of winning a wet game where no one can secure a catch.  And I think I'm right because we put in our "running QB" instead of our "pocket QB in training".  His blah play was only part of it, and I'll be the first to admit that's more an OL/REC problem than Zach!

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 27, 2025, 03:16:04 AMO'Shea said post game it was injury related.

Believe what you want!  Like MOS has never told fibs before, eh?

I'll eat crow if he doesn't practice and goes on the IR.  BTW, that would mean a certain loss next week...
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on July 27, 2025, 04:08:41 AMI d gladly take Cody fajardo over him right now, hands down, no questions asked

Gross!

Woolerton, ptui.  (Cody was pretty bad with no OL too BTW, and we have to remember this was a wet game)
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: BBFANDM on July 27, 2025, 04:26:25 AMO'Shea said he has no idea what he issue is with Zach I didn't hear Neck did they say that on TSN ?

Haha, so they were picking on me without the sauce, lol.  I'll go watch the post-game now and update the thread.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/07/26/coach-oshea-july-26-4/

MOS says only "no update yet", said it twice

So anyone saying "neck" on this thread is spouting fake news.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

You know what, I wonder if part of the Zach-yank is so that he won't have to do the post-game presser... Even if the backup only plays 2 snaps they give the post-game to the guy who finished the game.

It's so stupid... I don't really want to hear 5 mins of Strev, as much as I like the guy.  His post-games are useless.
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dd

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 27, 2025, 04:28:49 AMGross!

Woolerton, ptui.  (Cody was pretty bad with no OL too BTW, and we have to remember this was a wet game)

c mon techie, your man fajardo was lights out better than both strev and Collaros combined tonight. Mind you, fajardo would have to throw to our receivers so that would be useless.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: BBFANDM on July 27, 2025, 04:26:25 AMO'Shea said he has no idea what he issue is with Zach I didn't hear Neck did they say that on TSN ?

I think it's concussion related, either a foggy brain syndrome or headache re-activates with light activity, signalling to stop. 

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on July 27, 2025, 04:53:21 AMc mon techie, your man fajardo was lights out better than both strev and Collaros combined tonight. Mind you, fajardo would have to throw to our receivers so that would be useless.

That may mean even EDM's OL is better than ours!  :o  :o  They probably have a real LT, for one thing.

And you defeat your own argument with your second point.  ;D  ;D  ;D  EDM RECs may not be great (they aren't), but vets Dunbar and Gittens are miles above what we have now.  And that giant Mathis is looking like the Next Big Thing, until he got IR'd that is.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 27, 2025, 05:04:57 AMI think it's concussion related, either a foggy brain syndrome or headache re-activates with light activity, signalling to stop.

Everyone better pray Tecno is right then... or our season is done!
Never go full Rider!

ModAdmin

It's a combination of several issues...

Injuries - Schoen and Bryant being the key ones.
Weaker D - including Dline and DBs (although the D had their moments tonight).
Hogan in particular. Wondering about coaching. In fairness, he needs time to adjust to his position.
Turnovers - Whether by fluke or missed assignments (ball bouncing off helmuts, interceptions or fumbles  etc.,) they need to be eliminated.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

Blueforlife

Quote from: dd on July 27, 2025, 03:32:13 AMI put wheatie in the same level as bailey and we let bailey go, and to be honest, I think bailey was better. We have no one anywhere near elite on our squad. Teams have at least 2 and some 3. We re in serious trouble offensively.
Wheatie and Bailey entirely different players
Quote from: dd on July 27, 2025, 04:08:41 AMYes, neck injury or not, he's definitely on the decline and with the sub standard receiving corps we have, expect much of the same what we saw tonight. I d gladly take Cody fajardo over him right now, hands down, no questions asked, and with the savings in salary go buy me back Kenny Lawler next season!!
Hard pass on Cody

TecnoGenius

Quote from: ModAdmin on July 27, 2025, 07:01:12 AMIt's a combination of several issues...

Weaker D - including Dline and DBs (although the D had their moments tonight).

I maintain that our DL is better this year than in '24.  Ya I know, that's not too hard... but we did make some progress.

We were getting pressure on Arbuckle like half the night tonight, because I think we're actually scheming better now after the uselessness of trying to get to VAJ.  And we used more looks and more blitz.
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Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 27, 2025, 04:32:06 AMhttps://www.bluebombers.com/2025/07/26/coach-oshea-july-26-4/

MOS says only "no update yet", said it twice

So anyone saying "neck" on this thread is spouting fake news.

He left last week's game as a precaution and what the team later called a neck injury during the week.

So the logical assumption, seeing as he appeared fine to everyone before and during the game in Toronto, is that the injury was not new.

I also posed my comment as a question but it seems the logical assumption.

BomberFan73

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 27, 2025, 04:32:06 AMhttps://www.bluebombers.com/2025/07/26/coach-oshea-july-26-4/

MOS says only "no update yet", said it twice

So anyone saying "neck" on this thread is spouting fake news.

What he said was that it was not performance based, and that he was not ready to start the second half. OShea is not going to come out and say concussion, but it's hard to not come to that conclusion logically.
Now, I'm not a doctor - but piecing together bits of info - like Zach saying recently that he's dealing with some recurring issues, and it really sounds like concussion.
There will be times he might feel fine, maybe he'll even suck up some of the symptoms, and that was why he practiced & played.  This is also why him practicing this week and playing literally proves nothing.
I believe something happened during the half - they must have had a staff check in on him, and either zach himself, or the staff deemed him no go.