Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Toronto., July 26, 2025

[Jesse]

I am one of those who saw Terry WIlson throw in practice before, and yes, he throws a nice ball.  Derek Taylor also mentioned this on air on CJOB. Us who say this are not alone. Coaches have their plans though..maybe something else they want to see.  Make a move or two Kyle. Grey Cup is here and we'd like to be in it. Portage and Main is open and wouldn't a parade be nice there.

Everyone throws a nice ball in practice. They're on a professional team, they can throw a ball.

But can he read a defence and get the ball out to the right guy at the right time? When we've seen him on the field, it hasn't looked great, tbh.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Everyone throws a nice ball in practice. They're on a professional team, they can throw a ball.

But can he read a defence and get the ball out to the right guy at the right time? When we've seen him on the field, it hasn't looked great, tbh.

Your only reference must be the GC game when he went 0-3, that's the only time Wilson has thrown a pass other than in pre-season. 

[Strevy]

This team is in trouble.

When Jararion Grant has more passing yards than your high ticket 'starter' for most of the first half your team is in trouble....

[GOLDMEMBER]

When Jararion Grant has more passing yards than your high ticket 'starter' for most of the first half your team is in trouble....

ok thanks it ez there cowboy.

[Strevy]

ok thanks it ez there cowboy.

English please...?

[Blueforlife]

Everyone throws a nice ball in practice. They're on a professional team, they can throw a ball.

But can he read a defence and get the ball out to the right guy at the right time? When we've seen him on the field, it hasn't looked great, tbh.

Sample size of game action does not give enough information to determine with any validity an accurate assessment of his play.  Takes years for a QB to develop their trade.  He hasn't got enough reps to really even start that assessment.  I like what I see, the tools are there.  Yes reading a defense is key.  Using the eyes to confuse the D is key and of course like you said the right guy at the right time.  Those things would take a couple years to polish.  We shall see.  Such a difficult thing to determine if you have the right development QBs in the system.  Likely the hardest thing to teach in ball, OL as well imo.  Some positions like a goalie in hockey are longer term project.

Your only reference must be the GC game when he went 0-3, that's the only time Wilson has thrown a pass other than in pre-season. 

That's it eh, I thought maybe had a little more playing time in regular season.  Make a lot of sense.  Agree.

[Blue In BC]

Didn't get to watch the game until Sunday. Out of town visiting family, so this is my 1st post about the game.

Yes we played really badly. Wheatfall catches the TD and Sterns doesn't cause an int on the Argo 5 sure didn't help. Hard to say how much or if that changes anything but that hurt.

Getting suckered by Grant and beaten for 41 yards? YIKES. How does that happen?  Vaval fumbling? Sheahan trying a fake punt and not making it?

Yeah. Comedy of errors to say the least.

I expect some changes this week due to injury and some IR players likely coming onto the AR. I'm not totally sure who can't play due to new injury or to Bryant and Lofton who might play.

I did like what I saw of Person except the penalty he took. Could develop into a good player but small sample size.

[GOLDMEMBER]

English please...?

TAKE IT EZ NEWB! Is this clear enough?

[TecnoGenius]

Individual players have not played as well as hoped, but more concerning is the lake of chemistry, communication, cohesiveness, and energy

It's both.  I think we have a need to helicopter in (read: HIRE) 2 new guys: a decent CB, and a top-10 quality REC.  Maybe some DB shuffling can fix the first, maybe Schoen back fixes the 2nd.  Otherwise: find the couch sitters, or trade trade trade.

For most problems, like OL, we have the horses, we just need to get them out of the tub.

As for cohesion, ya I can't think of any unit that is working well.  They don't seem to care what the other guy is doing or have any idea as to what's going on.  This is on both them and the coaches.

And from I've seen so far this season, we're keeping things incredibly simple!  Like halfwit level simple.  Our lack of stunts on DL, our lack of interesting blitz packages, our plain and obvious no-confusion no-movement no-misdirection O schemes, our inability to have 2 guys in the frame on any deep shots on D...  I could go on all night.

[TecnoGenius]

ZC8 had a tough 2024 also.

Ya, getting to the GC, and having a 50/50 chance to win it sans the cut finger is tough.  (Remember, even Dinwiddie admitted he didn't know they'd win until bad-thumb Zach threw that first INT.)

(Ya, I know what you're saying... but my point still remains.  Zach is enough to get us to cups.  If the team is around him then he'll win it too.)

[TecnoGenius]

Not too concerned about the O-line, the ingredients/replacements are there, they're not a small bunch and it's just a matter of time before they become comfortable and improve their chemistry by playing together.

Not those OTs.  They aren't ready, and probably never will be to play Big Stan's tough spot.  I don't even like Randolph at RT.  But you're right, we have all the tools in-house, just get them back in place (Stan, Lofton).

[TecnoGenius]

Our dynasty is officially dead. We got beat by a 1-5 team by 14 who has a ton of injuries including their starting QB. 

Nah, our ability to win right now is officially dead.  Our record is still good enough to catch the top W guys, even if we stack 3 more losses.  I actually have a lot of confidence we'll make changes and everyone will improve.

Every time Vegas lowers WPG odds of winning the GC, I'll be biting on a little more...  Anyone who counts WPG out just because they are 3-3 clearly hasn't been watching the last 3 years... Recency bias is a powerful thing, so is depression.

[TecnoGenius]

I can say he's popping in at local football teams practices and giving tips.

Then get BA37 on the sidelines for every game like Biggie is doing in CGY.  Have him correcting DB scheme mistakes in realtime.

Assuming "amateur football ambassador" is allowed on the bench...

[TecnoGenius]

Virtually every major free agent we lost ended in a downgrade. How do we look with Ford, Lawler and Dobson? And that's just this year. Coaching seems the same. When we had Lapo and Hall we dominated the league.  Now I wonder if we couldn't improve by swapping Hall with Younger and Jackson with Hogan. 

It remains to be seen if we can recruit like we used to without Ted Goveia. I am guessing no since this year hasn't produced anyone you would say is a future star.

Good post.  The hope with letting Ford/Lawler/Dobson walk, well let's exclude Lawler, is that the next guy up (usually 2nd year guy) will step up and be nearly as good.  It's worked well every other year, why not now?  I guess sometimes you get unlucky.  Wallace clearly isn't Dobson, may never be, and Dobson wasn't even that good!  Bridges isn't 1/10th Ford; and that's being kind vs what I really want to write...

Kenny loss was supposed to be offset by Schoen being the league-leader in YDS again and Mitchell being at least "half a Kenny".  But Schoen's knee is toast and Mitchell isn't half an anyone.

As for the coords.  Nothing will happen there.  WFC is always tight to the coaches cap, always having to be "tricky" to get raises to MOS/KW/WM.  Why do you think we have basically "nobodies" as OC/DC?  But I really wouldn't worry about it.  What you see on paper isn't necessarily what is going on behind the curtain.  Younger has proven he can win, and I expect Hogan to do the same over the course of this year.

Edit: I think Vaval was a great find and a future starting DB for us, in year 2 or 3, so there's that little bit of success.

[Strevy]

TAKE IT EZ NEWB! Is this clear enough?

No, I see you are yelling but still not making any sense. Calm down and please try again.