Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Toronto., July 26, 2025

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on July 27, 2025, 03:29:55 AMThe loss of Alexander and Bighills leadership and knowledge of our defense has been largely dismissed, and man is it evident now. Is Alexander still active/on our roster?? Even if he's not, get him back here. Both our coordinators are in over their heads IMO

BA is working for the team in an ambassador role, not suggesting he come back but they need to find a Safety that can fill his role as a leader.

GOLDMEMBER

We suck at OL
We do not run the ball nearly enough.
Zach is toast Imo

Secondary sucks and cannot tackle.

Hogan is a massive disappointment as OC

Younger can't teach tackling

The vets suck other than Demski and Brady not enough of a chance.

Coaching is failing is!!!!
Season ticket holder since year 1 of the Reinbold era.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: DM83 on July 27, 2025, 02:38:23 AMLet Stan go to the retirement Bombers Hall of Fame.  It's a young man's game? Who wants to see our aged veterans play at half speed.

Can't.  No one on couch to replace.  We don't need a LT, we need a top LT.  Vanterpool is a LT.

Nope, we need Big Stan to tough it out one last season and fix the problem in FA.
Never go full Rider!

Pigskin

A few players can come off the 6 game this week. Case could be gone for the season. Have to get Cam Allen into the lineup. Need some size and speed in the secondary.

CS17  11/18, 148 yards, 1 TD. Demski and Case with bad drops.

Corcoran: 4/4  25 yards, 6.3 avg.
Stern:    4/7  72 yards. 18 Avg.

BO20:    13/82 yards, 6.3 Avg.  2/38, 19 yard Avg.

Jones:    7 DTs, 2 Sacks
Vaval:    6 DTs.
Person:  2 DTs, 1 sack, 1 bad penalty.
Vaughter: 3 DTs, 1 Sack. Did damage playing DT.

JT95:    1 DT, far to slow.

Bombers with 5 Sacks.  But, 7 turnovers.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: J5V on July 27, 2025, 03:18:48 AMSECTION 4 – FORWARD PASS

Article 9 – Illegal Interference – Blocking Downfield
Prior to a pass being thrown across the line of scrimmage, it is illegal for a Team
A player to initiate a block with a Team B player more than 1 yard across the line
of scrimmage before the pass is deemed complete.

Again, that's not what's at issue.  jdra says there's a rule like the NFL that applies ONLY TO INELIGIBLE PLAYERS (i.e. hoggies).

Plus, he didn't say them blocking was the main problem, he said them just being downfield is a foul.  In the NFL it is/can be.  But I've never seen it in the CFL.

(Ineligible) Hoggies can run anywhere they want and do anything they want like any normal O player except catch the ball... in the CFL.  Find a rule that says they can't.  (To be clear, that's not the bet either, I'm simplifying for effect, the bet is that there's a "ineligible receiver downfield" penalty like in the NFL.)
Never go full Rider!

BBFANDM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 27, 2025, 03:55:27 AMAgain, that's not what's at issue.  jdra says there's a rule like the NFL that applies ONLY TO INELIGIBLE PLAYERS (i.e. hoggies).

Plus, he didn't say them blocking was the main problem, he said them just being downfield is a foul.  In the NFL it is/can be.  But I've never seen it in the CFL.

(Ineligible) Hoggies can run anywhere they want and do anything they want like any normal O player except catch the ball... in the CFL.  Find a rule that says they can't.  (To be clear, that's not the bet either, I'm simplifying for effect, the bet is that there's a "ineligible receiver downfield" penalty like in the NFL.)

I am not sure how this relates to the Bigger Issue the Bomber are not GOOD

TecnoGenius

Quote from: DM83 on July 27, 2025, 03:33:12 AMThe O line can't block for Brady, so if he gets Five hundred yds. Consider that success. The Left tackle in for Stan should be cut out right.

Vanterpool was great at LG.  That's where he should be, and that's our "desired lineup" coming out of TC.  So you don't cut him.  You just don't start him at LT!

However, our options are him or a pylon right now...
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on July 27, 2025, 03:29:55 AMThe loss of Alexander and Bighills leadership and knowledge of our defense has been largely dismissed, and man is it evident now. Is Alexander still active/on our roster?? Even if he's not, get him back here. Both our coordinators are in over their heads IMO

BA37 is on the couch, AFAIK.

Yes, letting Biggie just walk away to spill all the beans to main-rival CGY was stupid.

We could have BA37 on the roster, on 6GIR, tomorrow, with no bonus and whatever salary we want to pay him... because there will be ZERO SMS HIT if he stays 6G all year.  That's what CGY is doing with Biggie.

It's a free coach, with a decade of wisdom (both players!) helping out the new guys and manning tablets.  It doesn't count against the coach cap OR the player cap.  For a $-filled team like us, it is stupid we didn't/aren't doing this.

Outsmarted by Dickenson The Greater.  Well, there's a reason he's The Greater.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on July 27, 2025, 03:39:18 AMIf anyone should run a screen it's us!!

Except we have a talent for turning screens into pick-6's
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pigskin on July 27, 2025, 03:53:37 AMVaval:    6 DTs.

This is astonishing.  It means the TOR plan was to attack that corner, and stick with it.  They didn't adjust when Bridges was yanked.  Well, they didn't need to.

Too bad Vaval may be injured (hopefully minor) because I've had a feeling most of the season he'd be better than Bridges, if only slightly.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: BBFANDM on July 27, 2025, 03:56:56 AMI am not sure how this relates to the Bigger Issue the Bomber are not GOOD

It's not, it's a dare/bet that should really get its own thread now to spare everyone!  That said, it is kind of general interest, no?  Not the bet, but whether the rule exists?

As CFL uber fans I find it a bit disturbing that no one here has the exact answer to this yet... well, except for me exhausting searches in the rule book on "ineligible" and "downfield", etc, and my decade of being an uber fan nerd who studies rule books.
Never go full Rider!

Blueforlife

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 27, 2025, 04:03:33 AMThis is astonishing.  It means the TOR plan was to attack that corner, and stick with it.  They didn't adjust when Bridges was yanked.  Well, they didn't need to.

Too bad Vaval may be injured (hopefully minor) because I've had a feeling most of the season he'd be better than Bridges, if only slightly.

Big loss if out long

DCM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: DCM on July 27, 2025, 04:07:00 AMMatthew Scianitti
Chad Kelly's newest stretch on #Argos six game started tonight, which means he could be out until Sept 13 vs #Elks. If #Argos pull him off early, say after Game 5, then that might mean Kelly returns for Labour Day. @TSN_Sports @CFLonTSN

Means nothing at all.  They can use their "6G-extension" mulligan to still save the SMS, even if they dress him next week.  It's like a coy MOS move.  Tells us nothing.
Never go full Rider!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Pigskin on July 27, 2025, 03:53:37 AMA few players can come off the 6 game this week. Case could be gone for the season. Have to get Cam Allen into the lineup. Need some size and speed in the secondary.

CS17  11/18, 148 yards, 1 TD. Demski and Case with bad drops.

Corcoran: 4/4  25 yards, 6.3 avg.
Stern:    4/7  72 yards. 18 Avg.

BO20:    13/82 yards, 6.3 Avg.  2/38, 19 yard Avg.

Jones:    7 DTs, 2 Sacks
Vaval:    6 DTs.
Person:  2 DTs, 1 sack, 1 bad penalty.
Vaughter: 3 DTs, 1 Sack. Did damage playing DT.

JT95:    1 DT, far to slow.

Bombers with 5 Sacks.  But, 7 turnovers.


YAC was non-existent, receivers are either on the ground or out of bounds as soon as they catch the ball.