Jamal Woods

[Blue In BC]

Going 3 import O-line makes ratio flexibility on the Defence all the more difficult, not sure it's worth the difference it makes.  Randolph and Vanterpool may enjoy a few games off with pay on the 1 game IR soon.

I know that but I also know Collaros got injured because of the play of our OL. O'Shea doesn't seem to be worried about the defence and ratio flexibility. So if Bryant is healthy I can see him deciding to go 3 import OL again.

What happens after this game is a TBD since Lofton might also be available.

[TecnoGenius]

Going 3 import O-line makes ratio flexibility on the Defence all the more difficult, not sure it's worth the difference it makes.

Our best OL games this year were 3 IMP.  However, Wallace hasn't been awful at LG.  The problem is when we have Vant/Ran at OT instead of Stan/Lofton.  We need our normal "starters" back.

It's clear that even an ailing Stan is better than anyone else at LT.  Buy the league-best IMP LT in next FA.  Forget about deving one -- it never works.

[Blue In BC]

Our best OL games this year were 3 IMP.  However, Wallace hasn't been awful at LG.  The problem is when we have Vant/Ran at OT instead of Stan/Lofton.  We need our normal "starters" back.

It's clear that even an ailing Stan is better than anyone else at LT.  Buy the league-best IMP LT in next FA.  Forget about deving one -- it never works.

Our OL would be less of an issue if our receivers were better as a complete unit. I don't think teams worry to much about Sterns or Case. Clercius is not going to beat you often for big yardage. So defences are focusing on Wheatfall and Demski. None of this is a surprise.

[BBRT]

Our OL would be less of an issue if our receivers were better as a complete unit. I don't think teams worry to much about Sterns or Case. Clercius is not going to beat you often for big yardage. So defences are focusing on Wheatfall and Demski. None of this is a surprise.

I agree there is not much to scare many defenses with the quality and quantity of the receiver group currently in blue.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

It's not the receivers that are the issue. It's that Collaros is largely immobile these days and that requires significantly better pass protection than it used to.

Go fire up the 2019 Grey Cup and watch Collaros then and now.

[Blue In BC]

It's not the receivers that are the issue. It's that Collaros is largely immobile these days and that requires significantly better pass protection than it used to.

Go fire up the 2019 Grey Cup and watch Collaros then and now.

That still doesn't change the fact our receivers are not a top level group.

[blue_gold_84]

It's not the receivers that are the issue. It's that Collaros is largely immobile these days and that requires significantly better pass protection than it used to.

Go fire up the 2019 Grey Cup and watch Collaros then and now.

It's both, IMO. Losing Lawler's had an impact and Schoen's inability to stay healthy isn't helping. Demski's the only seasoned veteran of this group who's played every game so far in 2025. This is an inferior receiving corps compared to previous seasons in recent memory.

Collaros' mobility isn't what it was once, but I wonder more about the rookie OC calling the plays now. Even 2024 Collaros looked more comfortable than what we've seen this season.

It seems like a combination of issues, some more glaring than others.

[dd]

That still doesn't change the fact our receivers are not a top level group.

Top level group??? They are arguably the weakest in the league, and its a passing league, so go figure our offense stinks.

Losing Lawler will sting until we find a bonafide star WR. Wheatfall is decent, but he's a far cry from Kenny.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

That still doesn't change the fact our receivers are not a top level group.

They absolutely would be if you put 2025 Vernon Adams behind centre.

[Blue In BC]

They absolutely would be if you put 2025 Vernon Adams behind centre.

I don't think so.  Not even close.

Rhymes, Jones, Alford & Philpot.

On IR: Begelton, and Henry.

Bombers Wheatfall, Sterns, Clercius and Case have a combined number of games played at 64. Demski at 141 = 200 games in total.

[Blueforlife]

Our receivers are below average now, a little above average with Schoen imo.
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Top level group??? They are arguably the weakest in the league, and its a passing league, so go figure our offense stinks.

Losing Lawler will sting until we find a bonafide star WR. Wheatfall is decent, but he's a far cry from Kenny.

Our offense doesn't stink, middle of the pack based on stats from what I can see

Stunk for 2 games, decent for 3

[RebusRankin]

Our WR group was average to below average with Schoen. Worse now.
Montreal: Philpott, Mack, Snead, Rambo, Speaker
Hamilton: Lawler, White, Bridges, Smith, Bolo
Ottawa: Lewis, Hardy, Pimpleton, White, Mardner
Saskatchewan: Emilis, Jones, Meyers, KSB, Busby
BC: Hatcher, McInnis, Berryhill, Cotty, Eberhardt
Calgary: Alford, Rhymes, Begelton, Philpott, Barnes
I'd say the above six are all better than us with Schoen.

[blue_gold_84]

They absolutely would be if you put 2025 Vernon Adams behind centre.

With Hogan as his OC, yes...?

[Sir Blue and Gold]

I don't think so.  Not even close.

Rhymes, Jones, Alford & Philpot.

On IR: Begelton, and Henry.

Bombers Wheatfall, Sterns, Clercius and Case have a combined number of games played at 64. Demski at 141 = 200 games in total.

In 2021, probably our most dominant season, our receivers were:

Rasheed Bailey
Nic Demski
Kenny Lawler
Darvin Adams (who missed most of the year)
Janarion Grant
Brendon O'Leary Orange
Drew Wolitarsky

Aside from Lawler that's an average group. Demski is about as good today as he was then.

Collaros balled out that year with that group. Put current Zach again with that group and he wouldn't. And I'm not trying to dogpile Collaros. I'm glad we've got him and he's the best option we have. But he's done very little on his own in a season and a half. He used to have magic feet like Vernon Adams now. Collaros can succeed when everything goes right. That's where he's at.

[Blue In BC]

In 2021, probably our most dominant season, our receivers were:

Rasheed Bailey
Nic Demski
Kenny Lawler
Darvin Adams (who missed most of the year)
Janarion Grant
Brendon O'Leary Orange
Drew Wolitarsky

Aside from Lawler that's an average group. Demski is about as good today as he was then.

Collaros balled out that year with that group. Put current Zach again with that group and he wouldn't. And I'm not trying to dogpile Collaros. I'm glad we've got him and he's the best option we have. But he's done very little on his own in a season and a half. He used to have magic feet like Vernon Adams now. Collaros can succeed when everything goes right. That's where he's at.

None of that suggests our receivers are not part of the problem. On a good day they might be average. Even with Adams I don't think that changes.

You might have a point that Adams or Rourke might have more success with our OL and Receivers than Collaros. OTOH, elusive QB's often get hit more and sustain more injuries when needing to scramble than a more drop back QB.