coaching

[BomberFan73]

I think its time for some changed 3 bad games in a row for the Secondary something needs to change.

Absolutely. This past loss was the worst. Even steady Nichols & Holm were bad.
Swap Griffin in for Parker, Parker for Bridges.  Let the new LBers get some snaps in place of Griffin.

Not a huge change, but badly needed IMO.

[dd]

MOS said in his post game presser that they're going to go through the process like they always do, evaluate the game play by play and figure out what's going wrong, whether its scheme, players not understanding the scheme/their role, or the player themselves.

Nobody, including the coaches and players, are happy with the current situation. It's not like we're losing in overtime or by a last second field goal, we are being pumped, thoroughly, offense and defense, so bad, that you'd think we never had a training camp.

MOS knows defense, was an outstanding LB and defensive leader and captain, he'll get the defense figured out with Richie Hall and Younger, its the offense I am worried about. Rookie OC, struggling/declining Qb, with less than stellar recieving corps, and it's not like we aren't just scoring points, we are turning the ball over like I've never seen before, and that trend goes back to the GC. Have we not learned anything?? I don't care if we don't score, go 2 and out and punt the **** thing, but quit turning the ball over and giving the other team mega points in the process. And that comes down to play calling and execution. First play in the playbook --Quit turning the ball over!!!

[Blue In BC]

If Parker is going to be replaced at Safety I'd like to see a Natl. in his place, just for the added ratio flexibility it could bring. Possible solutions: Jake Kelly, Kramdi, Makonzo, maybe draft pick Smith if he understands the secondary playbook well enough.

Kelly is probably coming off the 6 game IR this week. He might be our safety for this weeks game. IDK but he's the only Canadian that might fill the role.

[Jesse]

I think some people are forgetting that the success of our team was built on making changes when things weren't working. It wasn't patience and things worked out, it was turning over the roster and depth chart until it did.

We put Travis Bonds in at Guard to stabilize the OL, we moved Brandon Alexander to safety (both situations were changing the ratio to upgrade the position).

Most of the core was bought through FA. Bighill was signed when he came back late from the NFL,  Collaros traded for because we knew Strev wasn't the answer.

Everything people are saying "MOS doesn't do because he's too loyal to his guys", he's already done. We just haven't needed to since we found the right combination. That doesn't mean they won't if need to, because we've already seen them do it.

[Blueforlife]

Kelly is probably coming off the 6 game IR this week. He might be our safety for this weeks game. IDK but he's the only Canadian that might fill the role.

I don't remember him well but I as know some think he's shows promise and I don't remember a bunch of issues when he did get reps, if someone can jog my commodore 64 brain limited memory that would be welcome.  I would prefer to give a guy a couple weeks before starting.  Rotate 1st.

I think some people are forgetting that the success of our team was built on making changes when things weren't working. It wasn't patience and things worked out, it was turning over the roster and depth chart until it did.

We put Travis Bonds in at Guard to stabilize the OL, we moved Brandon Alexander to safety (both situations were changing the ratio to upgrade the position).

Most of the core was bought through FA. Bighill was signed when he came back late from the NFL,  Collaros traded for because we knew Strev wasn't the answer.

Everything people are saying "MOS doesn't do because he's too loyal to his guys", he's already done. We just haven't needed to since we found the right combination. That doesn't mean they won't if need to, because we've already seen them do it.

A combo and patience, changes, turnover and adapting made us great imo.  Agree we likely have most the pieces and yes the right combo could dial us in nicely. I like your take here, we don't always see eye to eye on our posts and opinions but this is pretty darn close to my way of thinking.

[Blue In BC]

I don't remember him well but I as know some think he's shows promise and I don't remember a bunch of issues when he did get reps, if someone can jog my commodore 64 brain limited memory that would be welcome.  I would prefer to give a guy a couple weeks before starting.  Rotate 1st.A combo and patience, changes, turnover and adapting made us great imo.  Agree we likely have most the pieces and yes the right combo could dial us in nicely. I like your take here, we don't always see eye to eye on our posts and opinions but this is pretty darn close to my way of thinking.

Kelly started to get more reps on defence by the end of 2024. Mostly he was playing ST's but moved past Hallett as the Canadian getting defensive reps. He seems to have speed and willingness to hit hard.

That said, any player coming off 6 game IR is going to take some time to get up to speed and into playing condition.

I think he'd have to be phased in before any chance of actually becoming a starter. But he might be in the plans down the road.

Logically Allen would be the 1st choice on an immediate basis if they move Parker to CB. I'm not sure Bridges was injured as well as Vaval or just pulled during the game.

I guess we'll see soon enough who comes off due to new injury and reassess our choices.

[TecnoGenius]

Does Wade Miller have final decision power on spending on players?

The Bombers have been making a profit... player costs has to be part of that doesn't it?

When people say the Bombers aren't spending as much as they are allowed, doesn't this consideration come into it?

That Miller gives Walter's a budge to work with?

The whole league plays to the SMS cap.  That is the budget for players.  For every team.  Internet says the cap in 2025 is $6M.

WM would have the final decision, as was proven when he forced KW to pay Brady around $50k more than KW's highest offer.  But in general KW makes these hiring and $ decisions.  WFC tends to stick with hierarchy: each level doing what it is they are supposed to be doing and you try to leave them alone because you trust them.

Our profit has nothing to do with player spend.  At all.  We are rich enough a team we can even afford to go over a pay penalties, though losing DPs should be avoided (though I'd give up a 2RDP to get a top player).

[TecnoGenius]

And I, for one, am glad for that. Taman was a lousy GM.

... who brought those starving fans a home GC win...  Everyone in the stadium that day will remember it forever.  The players on that field will be remembered forever as probably the best green team ever.  Durant will be a hero forever.

No, we shouldn't be as lousy at everything else as Taman, but we could emulate his FA and trade deals to make sure his team would make his home cup.

[TecnoGenius]

I think some people are forgetting that the success of our team was built on making changes when things weren't working. It wasn't patience and things worked out, it was turning over the roster and depth chart until it did.

You are right.  But people are more aggravated now because the time from "clear problem" to "helicopter replacement" is increasing.  In '19 to '22 we'd make mid and late season changes on D that would sometimes surprise people, and would usually instantly make us better.  The last while we seem to stick with the clear problem guys much longer, watching them destroy game after game.

I don't think we can wait until vet cutdown day in order to find some fixes this season.  We need to make moves now.

[TecnoGenius]

Kelly is probably coming off the 6 game IR this week. He might be our safety for this weeks game. IDK but he's the only Canadian that might fill the role.

IIRC Kelly had a couple of FS starts due to injury in the past, and IIRC the result was not good.

And are people talking about FS now because they want to move Parker to CB?  If so, I agree this is a great idea to instantly solve some problems.  Parker for Bridges would fix a lot of issues, and the dude is tall-ish.

[TecnoGenius]

It's not like we're losing in overtime or by a last second field goal, we are being pumped, thoroughly, offense and defense, so bad, that you'd think we never had a training camp.

With our current OL, they never did have a TC.  This crap lineup, with 2 OTs that really can't play OT, was never who we intended to field.  Get our desired lineup in and we'll be much better.

[TecnoGenius]

Blue Bombers boss said there would be no rash in-the-moment decisions made in the immediate aftermath or the days ahead. Instead, they'll do what they always do — stick to the process is the party line — and hold firm that more film study, more work, and more preparation will put an end to a three-game skid

It may put an end to the 3-game skid, but it might take another 5 games to do it!

I promise you this, if they start the exactly same lineup as last week for the next game, then we will lose that game.  If Vegas is dumb enough to make us favorites again I will make baaaaaank.  My absolute favorite times are when Vegas makes WPG favorites when we're bad, and when they make us underdogs when we're good.  Easy money.

[TecnoGenius]

I think Lawler was gone. I don't really put that on the club. And also good riddance.

Kenny is a mercenary.  He would have stayed had we paid him the same as HAM.  And with the extra $400k SMS (that HAM used to afford him) we could have had him...

Kenny even would have stayed here at a $10 maybe $20k discount.  We just didn't want to come anywhere close.

As for good riddance: now we see how good our other "good" RECs are when Kenny isn't drawing all the coverage like he did in the HAM game this week.  The threats (Kenny, Schoen, Pokey) draw the coverage and your middle-tier guys (Demski, Clercius) are left open.

Maybe that's why Zach is throwing so many INTs.  He's not used to so much coverage on the lesser RECs because in the past they were all flowing to Kenny!

[Waffler]

As for good riddance: now we see how good our other "good" RECs are when Kenny isn't drawing all the coverage like he did in the HAM game this week.  The threats (Kenny, Schoen, Pokey) draw the coverage and your middle-tier guys (Demski, Clercius) are left open.

Maybe that's why Zach is throwing so many INTs.  He's not used to so much coverage on the lesser RECs because in the past they were all flowing to Kenny!

I would also note that Bo was smart enough not to throw to Kenny when he was doubled. That didn't happen here.

[blue_gold_84]

... who brought those starving fans a home GC win...  Everyone in the stadium that day will remember it forever.  The players on that field will be remembered forever as probably the best green team ever.  Durant will be a hero forever.

No, we shouldn't be as lousy at everything else as Taman, but we could emulate his FA and trade deals to make sure his team would make his home cup.

You sound like a stubblejumper with that first paragraph. Blegh.

Walters already has twice as many Grey Cup rings as Taman.

I hope the former never tries to emulate the latter. And the reasons for that should be plainly obvious.