Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2025/2026 season

[blue_gold_84]

I have always appreciated Pionk since the Trouba trade, even though he struggled early.

I think Chevy made a mistake signing him for so long and so much, I don't think he's a top pair Dman anymore, whether that is a subliminal "I've got my payday, I don't need to earn it anymore" or just a natural progression in his play.

The only way I can see us signing Stanley is to move Pionk.  Would I prefer Stanley to Pionk?  $2 mil cheaper, and more physical... if he even scores 50% as much going forward, I think it gives us more flexibility.

Pionk's first season with the Jets was the most productive of his NHL career.

If all you're doing is basing your opinion on the season he's having currently, I don't think that's reasonable or objective. And to then insinuate he's become complacent because of his new contract seems dubious at best. This team's entire blue line hasn't played well this season, anyway.

Again: how do you try and trade a player who's currently on IR? Ignore his contract situation. What team would want a "complacent" defender who's currently injured and hasn't played in nearly two months?

I'm getting pretty convinced that the trade deadline is going to come and go without the Jets making any moves.

Considering how quiet it's been, I'm inclined to agree.

[theaardvark]

Pionk's first season with the Jets was the most productive of his NHL career.

If all you're doing is basing your opinion on the season he's having currently, I don't think that's reasonable or objective. And to then insinuate he's become complacent because of his new contract seems dubious at best. This team's entire blue line hasn't played well this season, anyway.

Again: how do you try and trade a player who's currently on IR? Ignore his contract situation. What team would want a "complacent" defender who's currently injured and hasn't played in nearly two months?

Considering how quiet it's been, I'm inclined to agree.

I can't remember a game in Pionk's first few seasons where my buddy did not have sour comments about his play, about mistakes that he made.  Stat's wise, it may have been his most productive, but performance overall, maybe not.  I think my buddy's complaints were because he was a huge Trouba fans, so anyone that replaced him would feel his ire.

I think in his time here, from my very ill informed viewpoint, was improving up til this year.  To place his performance into the "all our D suck" while Stanley has a breakout year is king of disingenuous.  And note, I said "subconcious" when referring to his perceived contract based complacency.

Why would someone trade for an injured Pionk?  He is week to week, but a top pairing Dman, and those are hard to find.  He should be ready for the playoffs, and has plenty of time left on his contract, which by the end could be value.

Moving him opens up cap and roster space.  Whether it is for Stanley to re-sign, or for Salmonsen to move up, or both, I think that, if you can get a 2nd rounder and a prospect, I'd open up that space.

[JockitchwithRich]

Really would dislike Chevy if he gets no business done

If 3 at least could get moved from such examples as Pionk or Stanley, Nyquist, Schenn, Namestnikov or even Toews, with
a return of some 2nd to 4th rd returns then that would be fine
Of course Pionk or Stanley might also fetch a decent prospect or by luck both prospect and 1st round spot.

Overall, no built up excitement as in previous deadlines

[JockitchwithRich]

Parayko says no to the big rumour of him going to Buffalo

Chevy get Pionk over there for a good haul

[blue_gold_84]

I can't remember a game in Pionk's first few seasons where my buddy did not have sour comments about his play, about mistakes that he made.  Stat's wise, it may have been his most productive, but performance overall, maybe not.  I think my buddy's complaints were because he was a huge Trouba fans, so anyone that replaced him would feel his ire.

I think in his time here, from my very ill informed viewpoint, was improving up til this year.  To place his performance into the "all our D suck" while Stanley has a breakout year is king of disingenuous.  And note, I said "subconcious" when referring to his perceived contract based complacency.

Why would someone trade for an injured Pionk?  He is week to week, but a top pairing Dman, and those are hard to find.  He should be ready for the playoffs, and has plenty of time left on his contract, which by the end could be value.

Moving him opens up cap and roster space.  Whether it is for Stanley to resign, or for Salmonsen to move up, I think that, if you can get a 2nd rounder and a prospect, I'd open up that space.

It's pretty weird to deflect by saying your buddy had a problem with Pionk, and doubly so when you bring up his supposed bias towards Trouba. That commentary is neither here nor there, so what's the point in even mentioning it? You stated that Pionk struggled early in his first season here, but provided no further explanation outside of some secondhand complaint. That's the definition of disingenuous.

Nobody said the entire blue line sucks. I wasn't excusing Pionk's lousy season, either. I was pointing out how the blue line has struggled as a unit, which includes the top 4 mainstay in Pionk. Much in the same way the Jets' second line struggles can be attributed to more than one player, it doesn't excuse the poor production of a player like Perfetti. Two things can be possible when it comes to evaluating players within the scope of their role on the roster.

Stanley having a breakout year offensively while having a bigger role on the blue line is something we can all agree on as being positive. His defending is pretty much on par with the rest of his NHL career, though.

I don't see a scenario where Pionk gets moved based on his injury status and his relatively new contract; he appears to be part of the core going forward. What does or doesn't happen with Stanley before the TDL has no bearing on that, IMO.

[JockitchwithRich]

Nashville has made some smart, small moves the past year or two which would be a dream for our team, after a down year, to mimic in some way.
They now, for just Rd 1-5, have 10 picks in back to back years and 7 in the third year.
Chevy, tough decision time but things can happen

[Jesse]

Really would dislike Chevy if he gets no business done

If 3 at least could get moved from such examples as Pionk or Stanley, Nyquist, Schenn, Namestnikov or even Toews, with
a return of some 2nd to 4th rd returns then that would be fine
Of course Pionk or Stanley might also fetch a decent prospect or by luck both prospect and 1st round spot.

Overall, no built up excitement as in previous deadlines

Pionk and Namestnikov are injured, Toews won't waive his no-trade, and Schenn and Nyquist have zero trade value.

Really, the only option is Stanley.

[theaardvark]

Stanley sits out tonite... guess we know what that means.

Phillips and Heinola draw in, Heinola on the top PP.

[Pigskin]

Jets played a very good game. Helle was lights out. Nyquist final scores.

[Pigskin]

Sounds like, Stanley and Schenn to Buffalo.

[DCM]

@BuffaloSabres
We have acquired Logan Stanley and Luke Schenn from @NHLJets in exchange for Isak Rosen, Jacob Bryson, and two draft picks.

@WPGMurat
More details via @DarrenDreger

-The second-round pick is 2027
-Winnipeg is also getting a fourth-round pick in 2026, the better of Buffalo/Edmonton's fourths
-Winnipeg retained 50 percent on Luke Schenn

[Jesse]

@BuffaloSabres
We have acquired Logan Stanley and Luke Schenn from @NHLJets in exchange for Isak Rosen, Jacob Bryson, and two draft picks.

@WPGMurat
More details via @DarrenDreger

-The second-round pick is 2027
-Winnipeg is also getting a fourth-round pick in 2026, the better of Buffalo/Edmonton's fourths
-Winnipeg retained 50 percent on Luke Schenn

Amazing. I didn't think it was happening and am impressed at the haul.

[blue_gold_84]

Amazing. I didn't think it was happening and am impressed at the haul.

Ditto. A really good trade, IMO.

All the details: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/sabres-swing-deal-with-jets-to-acquire-defencemen-stanley-schenn/

[Pigskin]

Rosen (22) is having a very good year in Rochester. 25G/18A 43 points. Buffalo 16 games 3G/4A 7 points.

[Jesse]

Rosen (22) is having a very good year in Rochester. 25G/18A 43 points. Buffalo 16 games 3G/4A 7 points.

I feel like 7 points in 16 games should already put him on our 2nd line.