Winnipeg @ BC the Rematch

Started by Pigskin, June 14, 2025, 10:17:50 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Blue In BC

#30
Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 15, 2025, 11:11:16 PMYes, I know the ratio.  You can DI Cooley and get him on field by matching him with Corcoran in Sterns' spot, or putting in jumbo with the extra 2 NATs (in for Sterns/Wheatie).

That way both RBs can do their thing, and both backup each other, solving the backup problem.

I still strongly believe Vanterpool at LG is not our "desired" OL.  We won't know until Lofton isn't on IR.  We still need to know if Mafia wants 3 IMP OL or 3 NAT.

As for "you don't take out the hot hand", I firmly believe BC will do much better at shutting Peterson down in game 2.  Film is a powerful thing.

However, with Zach back and the air attack on full blast we may benefit from BC focusing on the run and it may not matter anyhow as we pass the ball to all the open space.


I don't think you do. You suggest multiple changes to starters and the roster in order to get Cooley on the roster. All that in order to add a RB that would be an injury replacement and back up whichever one you choose.

Unless Cooley is a viable alternative as a receiver, this is insanity. It's possible that Sterns may be replaced in a few games or even possibly this week if they choose to add Mitchell. But I don't believe that happens in order to get Cooley on the roster.

Let's at least wait until we know with certainty the status of BO.
One game at a time.

Blue In BC

#31
Quote from: RebusRankin on June 16, 2025, 01:43:46 AMHe's actually played 10. My point was that I don't think its a good idea to have your fullback, who has never had a CFL carry and hasn't been used for anything other than blocking and teams as your back up rb.

I also don't think its a great idea to weaken your receiving corps with Zach coming back (ie taking out Sterns or another american receiver and using Cobb/Corcoron). Take out Ayers, get either Logan or Cooley on as a back up running back and use Sterns or Mitchell or White.

It's not the best option to need Chris-Ike as at the injury replacement but his college experience can't be over looked either. I might point out that Cooley has no experience in a regular season CFL game either. For that matter neither did Peterson.

I agree that taking out an import receiver to add another Canadian receiver is risky as well.

Your idea to get Cooley on by taking out Ayers won't happen. Replacing Vaval with Logan I doubt happens the way Vaval is playing. Replacing Vaval with Cooley means giving up a lot on the return game.

None of those options allows Cooley to start. You can't replace a Canadian starter with an import without another change. That effectively means Cooley would be sitting on the bench since he's not a returner or receiver.

Noting that any injury to Demski, Clercius or Kramdi are not really covered well depth wise replacing with another Canadian.  Not having the luxury of 8 -10 Canadians starters is more limiting than in 2024.
One game at a time.

The Zipp

Monday, June 16
Practice: 11:05 a.m. – 12:45 p.m.
Cameras permitted to film: 11:35 a.m. – 11:45 a.m.


Blue In BC

Quote from: The Zipp on June 16, 2025, 02:56:24 PMMonday, June 16
Practice: 11:05 a.m. – 12:45 p.m.
Cameras permitted to film: 11:35 a.m. – 11:45 a.m.



I'm a little surprised that we are practising today. I expected a Tues and Wed with walk thru on Thursday. More can't hurt with Collaros having to sit out last week. Further adjustments due to injury situations as well.

Any updates from those attending practice will help understanding possible changes to roster.
One game at a time.

The Zipp

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 16, 2025, 03:06:26 PMI'm a little surprised that we are practising today. I expected a Tues and Wed with walk thru on Thursday. More can't hurt with Collaros having to sit out last week. Further adjustments due to injury situations as well.

Any updates from those attending practice will help understanding possible changes to roster.

i guess a Thursday to Sat game split warrants 4 days of practice...full schedule isn't posted yet. Assume tues or wed will be closed and walkthough on Thursday - travel Friday?

Blue In BC

#35
I think several players on the 1 game IR are possible candidates to return to the AR although I'm not sure any will actually be activated.

Jones and Woods fall into a decision choice and ratio issues ( no room ). Until we have an injury, that probably doesn't change.

Mitchell is not a ratio issue per se, so that's a TBD when or if they make a move one way or the other. I thin originally he was expected to be a # 1 or # 2 receiver. Based on how Wheatfall has looked in practice and game 1, the situation / need has changed. Where would he fit in?

While I don't know if Logan is healthy, he might be a choice to replace Sterns and be a possible back up at RB and returner. He does have some experience as a receiver and Sterns is essentially the # 5 receiver.

Now I'm not trying to diss Sterns, just looking for possibilities / reasons why a specific change might be made based on needs this week due to injury.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 16, 2025, 03:32:00 PMI think several players on the 1 game IR are possible candidates to return to the AR although I'm not sure any will actually be activated.

Jones and Woods fall into a decision choice and ratio issues ( no room ). Until we have an injury, that probably doesn't change.

Mitchell is not a ratio issue per se, so that's a TBD when or if they make a move one way or the other. I thin originally he was expected to be a # 1 or # 2 receiver. Based on how Wheatfall has looked in practice and game 1, the situation / need has changed. Where would he fit in?

While I don't know if Logan is healthy, he might be a choice to replace Sterns and be a possible back up at RB and returner. He does have some experience as a receiver and Sterns is essentially the # 5 receiver.

Now I'm not trying to diss Sterns, just looking for possibilities / reasons why a specific change might be made based on needs this week due to injury.

There are quite a few good or experienced players lined up in reserve, Jones, Woods, Schmeck, Mitchell, Coolie, White, maybe Logan once he recovers, until injuries start to effect the roster it's hard to see how the kinks are going to work out.  The situation is somewhat similar to the Argos last season where Jon Jones and a few other very good players were listed behind the starters, that's depth, something the Bombers lacked last season in many positions. It's a much better situation than having a bunch of no-names on the PR.

The Zipp

Day 1 of Bombers practice:

RB Brady Oliveira is here, not dressed.  Same for LS Mike Benson.

S Josh Hagerty was running in warmups...an improvement on his injury situation.

Watching for the ratio change that the Bombers will make with Oliveira's injury.
Could be receiver, maybe more likely it's at left guard.

They'll certainly bring RB Quinton Cooley on. So an American will have to come off.

from derek taylor

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: The Zipp on June 16, 2025, 04:40:11 PMDay 1 of Bombers practice:

RB Brady Oliveira is here, not dressed.  Same for LS Mike Benson.

S Josh Hagerty was running in warmups...an improvement on his injury situation.

Watching for the ratio change that the Bombers will make with Oliveira's injury.
Could be receiver, maybe more likely it's at left guard.

They'll certainly bring RB Quinton Cooley on. So an American will have to come off.

from derek taylor


LOL, cue the speculation! 

The Zipp

Update from Bomberland: Zach Collaros back at QB1, Matthew Peterson in Brady Oliveira's spot. Gabe Wallace getting work at right guard

Also: Quinton Cooley getting some work at RB, too.

from ed tait

Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 16, 2025, 01:06:20 PMIt's not the best option to need Chris-Ike as at the injury replacement but his college experience can't be over looked either. I might point out that Cooley has no experience in a regular season CFL game either. For that matter neither did Peterson.


It also can't be overlooked that we drafted and have used Chris-Ike as a FB.

We signed and played Cooley in the preseason as a RB. And chose to keep him on the PR despite the ratio implications.
My wife is amazing!

Blue In BC

#41
Quote from: Jesse on June 16, 2025, 05:09:11 PMIt also can't be overlooked that we drafted and have used Chris-Ike as a FB.

We signed and played Cooley in the preseason as a RB. And chose to keep him on the PR despite the ratio implications.

You can't overlook that he's listed as a RB on our roster either. Positional designations don't mean much.  where else would we have played him in pre-season besides RB? 

One game at a time.

Sir Blue and Gold

#42
It seems pretty obvious that if Oliveira can't go, Cooley is getting on the roster somehow. The goal is to put together the best roster. That probably means not having your full-back or slot back play running back.

Blue In BC

Quote from: The Zipp on June 16, 2025, 04:57:02 PMUpdate from Bomberland: Zach Collaros back at QB1, Matthew Peterson in Brady Oliveira's spot. Gabe Wallace getting work at right guard

Also: Quinton Cooley getting some work at RB, too.

from ed tait

Not sure why Wallace is at RG instead of LG although Neufeld was a GTD last week and may not be 100%. I have no idea how much better Vanterpool is over Wallace.
One game at a time.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 16, 2025, 05:12:04 PMIt seems pretty obvious that if Oliveira can't go, Cooley is getting on the roster somehow.

It doesn't seem obvious at all but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Unless he's starting or they expect Peterson to fail, he won't be used much and that's a waste of a DI regardless.

There are about 50 possible choices to consider including having him start outright.
One game at a time.