Winnipeg @ BC the Rematch

Started by Pigskin, June 14, 2025, 10:17:50 PM

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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 15, 2025, 04:57:37 PMGood interview with Petersen starts 1:50 in, bit long but you get a good sense of who this kid is within the first 20 minutes, very motivated and focused on playing football.  Born in the US, moved to Brooks at 4 and bounced back and forth between Canada and US a few times, most of his football training happened in Canada, so he's a legitimate Natl.

sounds like he will fit in perfectly in a MOS world.
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Blueforlife

I think Zach and Wheatie are going to light it up big time.  Peterson will be good but not as strong as last game as they will adjust.  Demski will be his usual self and on offense we will do well by distributing the ball to more of our weapons.

OL will play well.  D will be very good but give up a few big plays.  ST will be good but nothing crazy.  We win by 7.  A closer battle for round 2.  All depends on BC's QB who I think will struggle at times.

Maybe a couple plays for our FB?

RebusRankin

If Brady is out, you start Peterson to maintain the ratio and either put Logan on as the returner/extra RB for Vaval or Ayers or you put on Cooley and take off Ayers. Only 4 DIs (Castillo and Griffen aren't coming off), so its between Vaval or Ayers. If Vaval is the returner, it has to be Ayers. Cobb on as an extra Canadian and back up receiver.

The Zipp

Quote from: RebusRankin on June 15, 2025, 08:20:33 PMIf Brady is out, you start Peterson to maintain the ratio and either put Logan on as the returner/extra RB for Vaval or Ayers or you put on Cooley and take off Ayers. Only 4 DIs (Castillo and Griffen aren't coming off), so its between Vaval or Ayers. If Vaval is the returner, it has to be Ayers. Cobb on as an extra Canadian and back up receiver.

that is prob it or you ride with demski as the backup RB


dd

Chris Ike is in the lineup as well so we re good for backup RB

It's rare a team wins these back to back matchups but I think we beat them at home this week

The Zipp

Quote from: dd on June 15, 2025, 09:56:33 PMChris Ike is in the lineup as well so we re good for backup RB

It's rare a team wins these back to back matchups but I think we beat them at home this week

then who is FB?  we keep him in at FB to help with blocking

RebusRankin

Quote from: dd on June 15, 2025, 09:56:33 PMChris Ike is in the lineup as well so we re good for backup RB

It's rare a team wins these back to back matchups but I think we beat them at home this week

MCI is a fullback, not a running back. He's never had a carry in a CFL game.

Blue In BC

Quote from: RebusRankin on June 15, 2025, 10:05:06 PMMCI is a fullback, not a running back. He's never had a carry in a CFL game.

He's only played 9 CFL games.

During his college days, Chris-Ike dressed for 27 career games with the Hornets, rushing 114 times for 486 yards and three touchdowns over four seasons with the team.
One game at a time.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 15, 2025, 01:18:31 PMYou don't seem to understand the context of ratio. Taking Ayers out doesn't help maintaining 7 Canadian starters. Taking out Vanterpool would work if we choose to add Cooley to maintain ratio and starting Canadians. 

OTOH, you want to start Cooley instead of Peterson after he rushed for 130 yards in his 1st game? I like Cooley but he just has the wrong passport.

Yes, I know the ratio.  You can DI Cooley and get him on field by matching him with Corcoran in Sterns' spot, or putting in jumbo with the extra 2 NATs (in for Sterns/Wheatie).

That way both RBs can do their thing, and both backup each other, solving the backup problem.

I still strongly believe Vanterpool at LG is not our "desired" OL.  We won't know until Lofton isn't on IR.  We still need to know if Mafia wants 3 IMP OL or 3 NAT.

As for "you don't take out the hot hand", I firmly believe BC will do much better at shutting Peterson down in game 2.  Film is a powerful thing.

However, with Zach back and the air attack on full blast we may benefit from BC focusing on the run and it may not matter anyhow as we pass the ball to all the open space.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

There's another option: if Brady is not quite good enough to start, he may still be good enough to dress as Peterson backup.  In other words, we don't want to put the strain on him, but he can do it in a worst-case scenario.

We rarely need the backup RB, so this could work.
Never go full Rider!

dd

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 15, 2025, 11:11:16 PMYes, I know the ratio.  You can DI Cooley and get him on field by matching him with Corcoran in Sterns' spot, or putting in jumbo with the extra 2 NATs (in for Sterns/Wheatie).

That way both RBs can do their thing, and both backup each other, solving the backup problem.

I still strongly believe Vanterpool at LG is not our "desired" OL.  We won't know until Lofton isn't on IR.  We still need to know if Mafia wants 3 IMP OL or 3 NAT.

As for "you don't take out the hot hand", I firmly believe BC will do much better at shutting Peterson down in game 2.  Film is a powerful thing.

However, with Zach back and the air attack on full blast we may benefit from BC focusing on the run and it may not matter anyhow as we pass the ball to all the open space.

I m hoping we see Collaros moving the ball around to all his recievers and no more 'force it to Kenny' plays. Peterson will still get his reps running the ball, but I think we'll be airing it out more than last game

RebusRankin

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 15, 2025, 10:53:58 PMHe's only played 9 CFL games.

During his college days, Chris-Ike dressed for 27 career games with the Hornets, rushing 114 times for 486 yards and three touchdowns over four seasons with the team.

He's actually played 10. My point was that I don't think its a good idea to have your fullback, who has never had a CFL carry and hasn't been used for anything other than blocking and teams as your back up rb.

I also don't think its a great idea to weaken your receiving corps with Zach coming back (ie taking out Sterns or another american receiver and using Cobb/Corcoron). Take out Ayers, get either Logan or Cooley on as a back up running back and use Sterns or Mitchell or White.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: RebusRankin on June 15, 2025, 08:20:33 PMIf Brady is out, you start Peterson to maintain the ratio and either put Logan on as the returner/extra RB for Vaval or Ayers or you put on Cooley and take off Ayers. Only 4 DIs (Castillo and Griffen aren't coming off), so its between Vaval or Ayers. If Vaval is the returner, it has to be Ayers. Cobb on as an extra Canadian and back up receiver.

Seems the most likely scenario.

Pete

If Olivera can't go then I'd like to see them put in Cooley, if you don't put him in when Olivera is injured when do you?
I'd put in Cobbs to replace Sterns, with Wheatie looking like the 3rd go to receiver, there wouldn't be a significant drop off (Sterns had only 13 yards last game) The added production with Cooley would more than make up for it.
They likely wouldn't sit Ayers as O'Shea is always enamored with top ST players

Waffler

One thing to consider about Cooley is that he the physical type and that fits with how we play going all the way back to Andrew Harris. Especially I am thinking the "grind out the 4th quarter when leading" philosophy that we do better than anyone.
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