2025 CFL Draft (Blue Bombers)

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One thing I don't notice anyone talking about is that the Rourkes were NCAA trained in 4 down ball, and Elgersma is USports trained in 3 down ball.

Coaches may have a different development path to consider for Elgersma than the Rourkes.  Does he adapt quickly and easily to 4 down narrow field no waggle ball?  Does playing 3 down make 4 down easier?

Green Bay coach was commenting on his "live arm", and he seems to be getting some attention, I'm not sure how much the NCAA / USports training differs in the adaptation to the NFL game.

Yes, if he's going to be on our roster, we want him here ASAP, but any time he gets with NFL coaches is free upgrades and good experience.  Its not like we need to coach him up to play the Season Opener, we have plenty of time for development, and running out his NFL time will be good for him as a player and a person.

 
Quote from: Jesse on May 04, 2025, 02:33:10 PMOf course, MOS was there. He didn't really seem like he was a big part of the process though.

I don't know how much time most coaches will spend watching film of draft prospects. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't at all.

I don't doubt the coaches watched film on the players Walters was interested in, and gave their opinions.  Not sure how much they were involved in the interviews as well.  But their thoughts would have been fully documented before draft day, so their roles in the war room would be near zero.

The warroom is where the management makes decisions based on who is left after the rest of the league has made their choices.  MOS might be the swing vote in a few instances, but they will have had their board done, and the picks should already be made. 

The only changes I can see is when Shay unexpectedly falls to them, now later LB's might drop down the list in favour of a different position.  And when Elgersma is still there at your free pick, does he beat out taking a position player.  And I don't see coordinators or position coaches doing anything there but adding confusing voices to the discussion.
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Quote from: theaardvark on May 04, 2025, 02:47:57 PMOne thing I don't notice anyone talking about is that the Rourkes were NCAA trained in 4 down ball, and Elgersma is USports trained in 3 down ball.

Coaches may have a different development path to consider for Elgersma than the Rourkes.  Does he adapt quickly and easily to 4 down narrow field no waggle ball?  Does playing 3 down make 4 down easier?

Green Bay coach was commenting on his "live arm", and he seems to be getting some attention, I'm not sure how much the NCAA / USports training differs in the adaptation to the NFL game.

Yes, if he's going to be on our roster, we want him here ASAP, but any time he gets with NFL coaches is free upgrades and good experience.  Its not like we need to coach him up to play the Season Opener, we have plenty of time for development, and running out his NFL time will be good for him as a player and a person.

 
I don't doubt the coaches watched film on the players Walters was interested in, and gave their opinions.  Not sure how much they were involved in the interviews as well.  But their thoughts would have been fully documented before draft day, so their roles in the war room would be near zero.

The warroom is where the management makes decisions based on who is left after the rest of the league has made their choices.  MOS might be the swing vote in a few instances, but they will have had their board done, and the picks should already be made. 

The only changes I can see is when Shay unexpectedly falls to them, now later LB's might drop down the list in favour of a different position.  And when Elgersma is still there at your free pick, does he beat out taking a position player.  And I don't see coordinators or position coaches doing anything there but adding confusing voices to the discussion.

The fewer voices in the room the better, they're already familiar with the prospects and know the order they will select them in when their turn comes up, drafting the player is the final step after a lot of time and discussion has been invested in the process. 

As for the Coach's input, I think MOS is very particular about the type of players he's interested in and probably puts more time into the review of Natl. talent than any other HC. With the help of the coordinators and scouts he comes up with a wish list of attitudes, abilities and body-types they're looking for and takes that input with him into meetings with Walters, Miller, Cameron and Gulakow, who's role may be limited to being an administrator or secretary.

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Quote from: ModAdmin on April 29, 2025, 03:19:02 PMBlue Bombers agree to trade with Hamilton Tiger-Cats

WINNIPEG, MB., April 29, 2025 – The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce the club has acquired National running back Matthew Peterson (Alberta), the second pick in the first round of today's Global Draft, and the 39th pick overall (5th round) in the CFL Draft from the Hamilton Tiger-Cats.

In exchange, Hamilton receives National defensive lineman Kyle Samson, the eighth pick in the first round of the Global Draft, and the 36th overall selection in the CFL Draft (4th round).

 
So essentially a 2nd for a 4th, a 8th overall in the global for 2nd in the global, and moving down three spots in the fourth round. I know the draft is a crapshoot at times but yikes that's not great value.

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Quote from: kkc60 on May 07, 2025, 01:48:29 PMSo essentially a 2nd for a 4th, a 8th overall in the global for 2nd in the global, and moving down three spots in the fourth round. I know the draft is a crapshoot at times but yikes that's not great value.

A decision based on a change of positional depth. Improving one area and reducing one where we had too many bodies.
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Quote from: kkc60 on May 07, 2025, 01:48:29 PMSo essentially a 2nd for a 4th, a 8th overall in the global for 2nd in the global, and moving down three spots in the fourth round. I know the draft is a crapshoot at times but yikes that's not great value.

I think KW addressed this in the recent interviews.  There was a GLOB we really wanted who would have been gone by our normal pick came up.
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https://x.com/TSNDaveNaylor/status/1920201518373834818

Naylor posting that Green Bay has offered a contract to Elgersma.

Should be official tomorrow and then he won't attend the Bills tryout.
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