Bombers agree to terms with Chris Streveler

Started by The Zipp, February 08, 2025, 03:19:13 PM

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blue_gold_84

Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on February 11, 2025, 03:31:55 AMStreveler should be converted to a FB. He is not QB material.

What a bad take.
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tlf

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 11, 2025, 03:06:46 PMWhat a bad take.

The wrong move was bringing him back and using a QB roster spot for someone who can throw.  Strev is a good guy but not a good QB.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: tlf on February 11, 2025, 05:43:53 PMThe wrong move was bringing him back and using a QB roster spot for someone who can throw.  Strev is a good guy but not a good QB.

He can throw. He just struggles to go through his reads and remain in the pocket, IMO. His default setting seems to be run first.

If used in a tandem, he's proven his effectiveness. For whatever reason, Pierce chose not to explore that option last season. Hopefully, Hogan (and Jackson) don't make the same mistake.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 11, 2025, 06:26:42 PMHe can throw. He just struggles to go through his reads and remain in the pocket, IMO. His default setting seems to be run first.

If used in a tandem, he's proven his effectiveness. For whatever reason, Pierce chose not to explore that option last season. Hopefully, Hogan (and Jackson) don't make the same mistake.

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 11, 2025, 06:26:42 PMHe can throw. He just struggles to go through his reads and remain in the pocket, IMO. His default setting seems to be run first.

If used in a tandem, he's proven his effectiveness. For whatever reason, Pierce chose not to explore that option last season. Hopefully, Hogan (and Jackson) don't make the same mistake.

Not sure what was going on last year, no indication Strev had a package designed for him and zero use beyond SY smash and bash.  Not sad Buck move on.

J5V

Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on February 11, 2025, 03:31:55 AMStreveler should be converted to a FB. He is not QB material.
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markf

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The single time he was given a real chance to play, he played well, had a good arm, completed passes, did not appear to have a problem reading the D, did not look out of place running the offence, and won games.

I think Since then he has been been treated pretty badly, here, and the NFL. Outstanding performance for the N.Y. jets in preseason, praised by head coach....cut.
Bombers is not a great team for developing a quarterback. Outside of the limited playing time Brown got, who has gotten some experience here, since the arrival of Collaros. Even in blowouts.

Then we get what we got last grey cup.


J5V

Quote from: markf on February 11, 2025, 10:35:49 PMThe single time he was given a real chance to play, he played well, had a good arm, completed passes, did not appear to have a problem reading the D, did not look out of place running the offence, and won games.

I think Since then he has been been treated pretty badly, here, and the NFL. Outstanding performance for the N.Y. jets in preseason, praised by head coach....cut.
Bombers is not a great team for developing a quarterback. Outside of the limited playing time Brown got, who has gotten some experience here, since the arrival of Collaros. Even in blowouts.

Then we get what we got last grey cup.


Yeah, I kind of see it that way too yet you never, ever heard a peep of complaint out of Streveler. The guy fits my mold of a Bomber perfectly.
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Blueforlife

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Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on February 11, 2025, 03:31:55 AMStreveler should be converted to a FB. He is not QB material.
Terrible idea imo

dd

If ever there was a guy who you wanted to see succeed, who's paid the price, its Strevy. Beauty of a teammate, got busted up last year, hope he's recovered for this year. It makes total sense to have him as a SY Qb, and once we get the first down, go into a tempo/no huddle offense where you can take advantage of the heavy D brought on for SY, to run plays that attack the D, run play action/RPO, boot Strevy outside and let him kill some DB's. I don't recall seeing that last year, just get the 1st down, and get off.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on February 12, 2025, 11:07:48 PMIf ever there was a guy who you wanted to see succeed, who's paid the price, its Strevy. Beauty of a teammate, got busted up last year, hope he's recovered for this year. It makes total sense to have him as a SY Qb, and once we get the first down, go into a tempo/no huddle offense where you can take advantage of the heavy D brought on for SY, to run plays that attack the D, run play action/RPO, boot Strevy outside and let him kill some DB's. I don't recall seeing that last year, just get the 1st down, and get off.

You didn't see it, cause in 87 carries last season he didn't get outside and never broke a long one running over a DB in the process. He broke a rib in his first game against the RB's, he might be a hard luck story but maybe smashing into people with the intent to punish them isn't the best way to run the ball or a good way to sustain a football career.  Have we ever witnessed a player accumulate more serious injuries in a shorter period of time?  Everything about Strev is legendary.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: markf on February 11, 2025, 10:35:49 PMThe single time he was given a real chance to play, he played well, had a good arm, completed passes, did not appear to have a problem reading the D, did not look out of place running the offence, and won games.

People forget Strev was winning .500 for us as a rookie and sophomore in '18 and '19.  And that's against an extremely good West division back then.

I think he's easily still a .500 QB in-season.  If Zach goes down for a few weeks, you could do worse than .500.  And certainly you can't beat .500 for the price of Strev!

'19 Strev was also pivotal in winning the '19 WSF and GC.

I agree Strev really isn't the best choice as heir to Zach for '26 and beyond.  We need to find other solutions.  I suppose if we really had to we could roll in '26 with Strev, but we'd then be loooong shots for the GC.
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dd

If collaros retires after this season, I can see Fajardo coming here and win us alot of football games. I know he's not a fan favorite, but I don't see any other Qb's in the league being a better option than him who aren't starting right now (assuming all current starters stay as starters on their team or we are outbid for them)

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on February 15, 2025, 02:30:24 AMIf collaros retires after this season, I can see Fajardo coming here and win us alot of football games. I know he's not a fan favorite, but I don't see any other Qb's in the league being a better option than him who aren't starting right now (assuming all current starters stay as starters on their team or we are outbid for them)

Eeeewwww!  I could barely handle Dolegala or Patterson with their green tinge... no way I could handle full on Cody.  Especially not after that '23 GC.

If you look at past QB pick-ups, it's been finding the middling "maybe next big thing" Nichols (and even Drew Willy), or left-for-dead scrap-heap gem-find Collaros.

The main things is we never got in a bidding war.

Thus we may look at an overlooked up & comer like maybe Powell (some would add Dukes).  Or even scrapheap material like BLM (barf), or Masoli (hmm, maybe?).

I bet 2024 will present us with some new possible "next big things" that isn't even on any radar yet.  The key is identifying those people before the rest of the league catches on... and being right!
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Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 15, 2025, 07:48:31 AMEeeewwww!  I could barely handle Dolegala or Patterson with their green tinge... no way I could handle full on Cody.  Especially not after that '23 GC.

If you look at past QB pick-ups, it's been finding the middling "maybe next big thing" Nichols (and even Drew Willy), or left-for-dead scrap-heap gem-find Collaros.

The main things is we never got in a bidding war.

Thus we may look at an overlooked up & comer like maybe Powell (some would add Dukes).  Or even scrapheap material like BLM (barf), or Masoli (hmm, maybe?).

I bet 2024 will present us with some new possible "next big things" that isn't even on any radar yet.  The key is identifying those people before the rest of the league catches on... and being right!

We only settled on Drew Willy because we lost the bidding wars for Zach and Henry Burris. I'm pretty sure it was a situation where we offered more money but they chose to go to Hamilton and Ottawa respectively because we were so terrible back then.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 15, 2025, 07:48:31 AMEeeewwww!  I could barely handle Dolegala or Patterson with their green tinge... no way I could handle full on Cody.  Especially not after that '23 GC.

If you look at past QB pick-ups, it's been finding the middling "maybe next big thing" Nichols (and even Drew Willy), or left-for-dead scrap-heap gem-find Collaros.

The main things is we never got in a bidding war.

Thus we may look at an overlooked up & comer like maybe Powell (some would add Dukes).  Or even scrapheap material like BLM (barf), or Masoli (hmm, maybe?).

I bet 2024 will present us with some new possible "next big things" that isn't even on any radar yet.  The key is identifying those people before the rest of the league catches on... and being right!

The problem going after a middling QB with no star power, is they likely end up producing middling results, just making the playoffs or more likely falling just short.  He becomes a placeholder until someone else comes along. 

It would be great if they could find someone the caliber of Nichols but that QB option has yet to emerge on the radar screen. Arbuckle demonstrated he can win if given a very good team but his athletics reminds me of Sean Salisbury with shades of inadequate overall results.

Powell is the future in Hamilton so they're not letting him go, BLM and MBT are already too old, Maier either takes over in Sask within the next 2 years or remains a forever backup option like Shiltz. 

Unless Tre Ford flops hard in Edm. Fajardo will be looking for a new contract next season and the Bombers may be one of the few teams with a QB opening.  Like him or not, Cody is a motivated individual, he brings a pent up resentful fire with him, he's continually trying to prove he's good enough and deserves accolades for his successful track record. If signed by the Bombers it could be a tumultuous and entertaining ride that might last 2-3 years and get them close like he did in Sask, but probably no GC wins.