2024-2025 CFL (non-Bomber) off-season discussion

[dd]

Campbell was the scapegoat to Rourke crapping the bed and the GM and owner insisting he continue to play. BC was all in on this from the get go. They went over the SMS, lost draft picks and games because of this. All this did was feed Rourke insatiable ego and I hope he falls flat on his face this season and bc goes to zero with a bullet

[markf]

I don't disagree with these sentiments but Rick Campbell's handling of Vernon Adams was, IMHO, terrible and frankly, gutless. VA deserved better and I hope he goes on to have a very successful career playing for an organisation that has his back.

For some reason, last season, the Lions decided the run game was not needed. Even though the team had an effective run game with Stanback in the one game (that I watched) where the team ran the ball, and... it worked.

who knows why coaches do that. We did it in the Grey Cup as you well know.

I guess they were hoping that eventually Rourke would recover his lost touch. They sure gave him a lot of chances.


I suppose it will be bombs away again this season for B.C.

[blue_gold_84]

Is Sukh Chungh cooked or what? I'm surprised he's still out there.

[Waffler]

Is Sukh Chungh cooked or what? I'm surprised he's still out there.

His last contract had $85,000 guaranteed money ($50,000 signing bonus and $35,000 bonus the first time he plays one percent of snaps in a game). That was almost half his total money. Who knows what he is asking but likely it is too much or wants too much guaranteed at age 33.

[Pigskin]

Last 4 seasons Chungh has only missed 3 games, so it probably not health related. At 33 he's not that old and he's still a good OL. So, I would say it's money.  Kolski 33, Lofton 33, Neufled 36, Bryant 38. 

[dd]

I m sure Walters has inquired as to what's the asking price for Chungh...Im hoping as time passes, his price comes down and wouldn't that be awesome to see him back in Blue and Gold! But I'm thinking he wants to play at home and he'll only sign with the Lions

[TecnoGenius]

Chungh could be playing the "ask the world, remain FA, wait for an injury" strategem that sometimes works in the CFL.  A team who just lost their star OG for the whole season may bite.  Could be us!

[Blue In BC]

Chungh could be playing the "ask the world, remain FA, wait for an injury" strategem that sometimes works in the CFL.  A team who just lost their star OG for the whole season may bite.  Could be us!

Hard to say what he's doing. Obviously his 1st choice may be playing in Vancouver. OTOH, I don't know what is non football career is or what he earns outside of football.

If he's capable of starting, he's probably worth $150K - $180K but does any team currently have that SMS room?

The question for the Bombers is what they feel about Wallace and Randolph being able to start and how it impacts the ratio.

Choosing a Canadian is a benefit but that seems to be in limbo waiting for an actual answer.

[Jesse]

Might be waiting to see if the salary cap actually goes up and then all teams have room to pay him the moon.

[Blue In BC]

Might be waiting to see if the salary cap actually goes up and then all teams have room to pay him the moon.

I think that would tick off some other players that signed within the previous cap. He also didn't know that the cap was going up when he hit free agency. So if his ask was too high, then why would a team pay him more just because the cap went up?

Nope. Don't buy it. He has a value, but it falls into a certain range. If he wanted more then he may be out of football all together.

[dd]

It's strange a rookie guard can get signed for big $$ by one team, yet a seasoned veteran all star is not signed. He must be asking for a ton of $$ and looks like nobody is going to pay it.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Hard to say what he's doing. Obviously his 1st choice may be playing in Vancouver. OTOH, I don't know what is non football career is or what he earns outside of football.

If he's capable of starting, he's probably worth $150K - $180K but does any team currently have that SMS room?

The question for the Bombers is what they feel about Wallace and Randolph being able to start and how it impacts the ratio.

Choosing a Canadian is a benefit but that seems to be in limbo waiting for an actual answer.

I suspect Chungh is involved with other business activities and wouldn't consider leaving Vancouver. I know his father owned a garbage disposal business which could be a very lucrative side gig depending on the scale.

[TecnoGenius]

So if his ask was too high, then why would a team pay him more just because the cap went up?

Because now they can?  Scenario:

- used to get $180k
- BC can't pay that anymore (ageing)
- know that BC doesn't have many other options ~$150k they are offering
- cap goes up
- know now that the $180k you wanted doesn't "hurt" BC like it did before
- tell other teams you'll sign for $190k, knowing they too have the new room

Assuming the CFL doesn't completely renege on the extra $400k cap (don't see how they can), or limit it so it can't apply to the Chungh situation, then Chungh's value (and everyone else's that's desirable) just went up by $400/CAP*100 percent.

The fact the $400k magically showed up is serendipitous to Chungh and vastly increases his chances of getting his ask from BC or any other team.

One would have to think he's kind of a hometown fan favorite in BC.  Like their version of Walby.  Our closest version of that right now would be Neufeld (on the NAT side) or Big Stan.

[Jesse]

I suspect Chungh is involved with other business activities and wouldn't consider leaving Vancouver. I know his father owned a garbage disposal business which could be a very lucrative side gig depending on the scale.

This is probably the most likely scenario. Otherwise he would have left for the best offer already.

Assuming the CFL doesn't completely renege on the extra $400k cap (don't see how they can), or limit it so it can't apply to the Chungh situation, then Chungh's value (and everyone else's that's desirable) just went up by $400/CAP*100 percent.

The fact the $400k magically showed up is serendipitous to Chungh and vastly increases his chances of getting his ask from BC or any other team.

It's not reneging - the CFLPA simply has the right to divert those funds elsewhere so all members have the opportunity to see the money, not just this year's FAs.

[TecnoGenius]

It's not reneging - the CFLPA simply has the right to divert those funds elsewhere so all members have the opportunity to see the money, not just this year's FAs.

Well, it's reneging from the CFL's sloppy announcement when they just said "cap's up by $400k, go mental!".

What is the league going to do to teams that already spent their extra $400k on FA overspends??  Oops.  (HAM, EDM anyone?)

(I'm not saying it's bad or good if the CFLPA changes things (though I'm generally on the side of the players, as in all of them).)