Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2024/2025 Season

[dd]

Definite upgrades needed and still can't understand why we didn't do more at the trade deadline all things considered. Schenn and Tanev were disappointing under-performers.

Appleton a classic under-performer too. He couldn't have been set up any better by an absolutely perfect pass and could have buried one when we needed it most but shot it at the goalie rather that put it into a wide open 4x6. Good grief! A beer league player could have potted that one. He better not be a Jet next season or if he is it better be as a 5th liner.

I thought Schenn and Tanev brought a much needed physical presence on the ice.

In the off season, I'd be going for an upgrade at #2 centre, and bring in a youth, fast, mobile and PHYSICAL defenseman. We miss the Buff-Meyers-Trouba-Charot days when we had big mean defensemen out there. We have more finesse D now with Morrissey and Pionk, but we need a stud back there who can keep teams honest and pound them/make life difficult in front of our net when they have the puck.

[Pigskin]

I thought Schenn and Tanev brought a much needed physical presence on the ice.

In the off season, I'd be going for an upgrade at #2 centre, and bring in a youth, fast, mobile and PHYSICAL defenseman. We miss the Buff-Meyers-Trouba-Charot days when we had big mean defensemen out there. We have more finesse D now with Morrissey and Pionk, but we need a stud back there who can keep teams honest and pound them/make life difficult in front of our net when they have the puck.

I agree, Chevy could have done more at the trade deadline. Should have given up a our late 1st. round pick and one these prospects still playing for the Moose, for a second line (c) or big RW that can score. But, as far as Tanev and Schenn they booth played as advertised. Tanev is the Tasmanian devil and Schenn is a D-man that will pound players all night.

[blue_gold_84]

I've had a couple of days to digest this. This was a team good enough to win the regular season. That's it. I sincerely expected them to force another game beyond Saturday but they couldn't find a way.

Not really sure what else there is to it other than this team simply lacked the horses up front. On the road, they got exposed handily with the exception of Saturday's night loss - one which I thought was by far their best road game of the playoffs. There's no consolation in that, though.

This team needs a bonafide 2C to round out the top 6. Namestnikov is versatile and plays a strong two-way game, but lacks the offensive prowess and speed to drive the second line on a consistent basis. This gets further exposed when the bottom 6 struggles to find offense.
Appleton was lousy all playoffs, IMO. He never seemed to find his way and when he did get an opportunity to make an impact, it was squandered. Missing that gaping net the other night will probably haunt him forever.

Special teams were mostly a disaster when it really mattered; it's fitting that they got bounced by a PPG against. There's nothing that can be said about how much the powerplay cratered; it's baffling. The PK was streaky and struggled mightily on the road. This was exacerbated by a lack of discipline at times.

Hellebuyck needs to figure out how to translate his regular season game to the playoffs, particularly on the road. He was better in the second round, so I'm hopeful he shook whatever demons had been haunting him.

Is this second round loss more scar tissue for this team? Time will tell.

It is imperative they add a proven 2C, IMO.

Rest In Peace, Brad Scheifele. Sorry for your loss, Mark.

[theaardvark]

Did anyone see that the Dallas owner gave MS55 his jet to go home after the game?  Nice move.

A great season for the Jets overall. 

For those suggesting Appleton missed winning the game with his open net miss, anyone relying on Appleton to win you a game is hopeful at best.

Yes, every player has to make hay while the sun shines, and you need to pot those easy ones.  And you can bet, Appleton is replaying that in his mind over, and over, and over.  But he's not on the team to score.

We lost that game because no one scored. MS55 got one, but he should not have been alone on the scoresheet.  CH37 did a great job of keeping them in, and I was really hoping MS55 would have drawn a penalty shot on old crappy ice, rather than a minor going over to fresh ice.  I think CH37 comes up with a penalty shot save that powers the team into an overtime win.

Losing JM44 was huge, especially on that final PK.  Hope it isn't as bad as some people are suggesting, and that he's back in great shape to start the season.

[Jesse]

Agree with most.

Need that 2C but Chevy seems to do all he can at trade deadline. Simple fact is that we're on no trade clause that guys won't waive.

This seems to be our ceiling, so you just kind of have to enjoy it for it is. There will be many years where to don't get this far.

[blue_gold_84]

Ehlers to join Team Denmark at IIHF WHC

[dd]

Agree with most.

Need that 2C but Chevy seems to do all he can at trade deadline. Simple fact is that we're on no trade clause that guys won't waive.

This seems to be our ceiling, so you just kind of have to enjoy it for it is. There will be many years where to don't get this far.

Agreed. I think expectations were high with the Jets winning the Presidents trophy, but as we have seen in the past, it is almost the kiss of death winning that.

Jets did well. Need a more diversified offense. When MS55 and KC81 are on the ice, they are dominant. When the remaining 3 lines are on the ice, they are not. We are still 1-2 players away--a physical, proven goal scorer, and a big, tough, mobile D man, but I bet alot of teams are saying the same thing!!

[dd]

Did anyone see that the Dallas owner gave MS55 his jet to go home after the game?  Nice move.

A great season for the Jets overall. 

For those suggesting Appleton missed winning the game with his open net miss, anyone relying on Appleton to win you a game is hopeful at best.

Yes, every player has to make hay while the sun shines, and you need to pot those easy ones.  And you can bet, Appleton is replaying that in his mind over, and over, and over.  But he's not on the team to score.

We lost that game because no one scored. MS55 got one, but he should not have been alone on the scoresheet.  CH37 did a great job of keeping them in, and I was really hoping MS55 would have drawn a penalty shot on old crappy ice, rather than a minor going over to fresh ice.  I think CH37 comes up with a penalty shot save that powers the team into an overtime win.

Losing JM44 was huge, especially on that final PK.  Hope it isn't as bad as some people are suggesting, and that he's back in great shape to start the season.

I didn't hear that, and super classy move by the Stars owner!!

[theaardvark]

Giving Namestikov 2 yrs at $6mil says we are not looking for a 2C.  MS55 is here forever, and AL17 is our 3C, so I think that part of the lineup is set.

Lambert will eventually be the 2C, maybe by the time Namestikov's deal is up. I think the ship has sailed on CP91 moving to C, he's just been working too well on the wing, I think he has "found his game".

Re-signing Ehlers, even with the cap going up, is going to be a struggle.  MS55 and CH37 are barely into their deals, which are now team friendly value deals.  But Conner is going to be $11mil+, Samberg is getting a substantial raise.  Vilardi needs a deal.  The last two might get bridged, but that puts us inline with Morissey's new deal.

There are a lot of moving parts here, and while I absolutely love Ehlers and watching him play, I think a long term deal at $8 mil is going to be tough both to fit and even to get him to sign.  I don't think he can command $10mil, but $8.5 might get multiple offers. 

[Pigskin]

Did anyone see that the Dallas owner gave MS55 his jet to go home after the game?  Nice move.

A great season for the Jets overall. 

For those suggesting Appleton missed winning the game with his open net miss, anyone relying on Appleton to win you a game is hopeful at best.

Yes, every player has to make hay while the sun shines, and you need to pot those easy ones.  And you can bet, Appleton is replaying that in his mind over, and over, and over.  But he's not on the team to score.

We lost that game because no one scored. MS55 got one, but he should not have been alone on the scoresheet.  CH37 did a great job of keeping them in, and I was really hoping MS55 would have drawn a penalty shot on old crappy ice, rather than a minor going over to fresh ice.  I think CH37 comes up with a penalty shot save that powers the team into an overtime win.

Losing JM44 was huge, especially on that final PK.  Hope it isn't as bad as some people are suggesting, and that he's back in great shape to start the season.

Giving Namestikov 2 yrs at $6mil says we are not looking for a 2C.  MS55 is here forever, and AL17 is our 3C, so I think that part of the lineup is set.

Lambert will eventually be the 2C, maybe by the time Namestikov's deal is up. I think the ship has sailed on CP91 moving to C, he's just been working too well on the wing, I think he has "found his game".

Re-signing Ehlers, even with the cap going up, is going to be a struggle.  MS55 and CH37 are barely into their deals, which are now team friendly value deals.  But Conner is going to be $11mil+, Samberg is getting a substantial raise.  Vilardi needs a deal.  The last two might get bridged, but that puts us inline with Morissey's new deal.

There are a lot of moving parts here, and while I absolutely love Ehlers and watching him play, I think a long term deal at $8 mil is going to be tough both to fit and even to get him to sign.  I don't think he can command $10mil, but $8.5 might get multiple offers.

Your dreaming if you think VN7 is a second line C.  Just doesn't have the finish.  He not that good in the FO circle, he averages 10 goals a season.

[Pigskin]

Playoff Scoring:

81/55/13. 33 games, 32 points. GV13 4 points in 9 games.

62/17/22. 39 games, 17 points. MA22 lead this group with 7A.

27/7/91.  34 games, 19 points. VN7 and CP91 played 13 games and both had 6 points.

73/36/9/28. 44 games,  6 points. BT73 zero point. IA9 1G, 1A. JAD28, 5 games, 1G,1A.

D-men.

DD2.  12 games. 1G, 3A.
NP4.  13 games. 1G, 6A
CM6.   4 games.     2A
JM44. 11 games.     6A.
DS54. 13 games.     3A.

So MA22 finished tied for 3rd. in playoff scoring for the Jets.


 

[Pigskin]

Ehlers to join Team Denmark at IIHF WHC

Yes, this is a BS tournament. A guy can be added the last game of the round robin. Also not a thing I would be doing with his injury history and looking for a new FA contract.  NN62 also joined Switzerland.

[Pigskin]

Sounds like Moe would have been out for the rest of the playoff's.

[Pigskin]

Schenn had cracked ribs since early in the St. Louis series. Explains a few things.

[Pigskin]

Here's a guy I would take a run at. Manitoban, Morgan Geekie, 26, right shot, who can play RW or C. 6'3" 208, 33G 24A.