Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2024/2025 Season

dd · April 23, 2025, 02:28:48 AM

Quote from: blue_or_die on April 22, 2025, 11:14:35 PMI cringe every time. He looks like he used to when he had the bad habit of passing the puck to an opponent with an open net. He's gotta be careful and trust in our guys to race back for it rather than try to make a cute play that partially clears the zone.

I too cringe, and it's not only for Helle, but every goalie out there turns the puck over 50% of the time they play it, I just don't know why they don't leave it for the D man to clear it using the systems they use. When the goalie plays it, its like its a wild card, nobody, including the goalie, knows where he's going to play the puck to. I can see when your D man is beat to the puck, come out and rim it around the boards and clear the zone. These up the middle heart attack passes have got to stop. Know your role. Stop the puck, let the D clear the puck

blue_gold_84 · April 23, 2025, 01:29:59 PM

Quote from: Jesse on April 22, 2025, 11:01:45 PMI have minor concerns. These games have been so close and St. Louis is not the Avs or Knights. I was hoping for some more clear cut wins.

Our PP needs to get back to where it was earlier in the year. If we complete this series against St. Louis, we need to PP to get us through the following round(s).

The Blues were the best team in the league since the 4 Nations Cup:

This first round was never going to be easy irrespective of their opponent; the Blues are a strong team.
The Jets have so far shown they're the better team, even if only by a small margin through two games. Taking a 2-0 series lead without two of their top forwards is noteworthy, IMO.

I agree on the PP needing to be better, but that unit is also missing its top PP scorer in Vilardi.

theaardvark · April 23, 2025, 04:08:53 PM

Quote from: Jesse on April 22, 2025, 11:01:45 PMI have minor concerns. These games have been so close and St. Louis is not the Avs or Knights. I was hoping for some more clear cut wins.

Our PP needs to get back to where it was earlier in the year. If we complete this series against St. Louis, we need to PP to get us through the following round(s).

St. Louis was one of the hotter teams down the stretch and is built for playoffs.

We are the only western team off to a 2-0 start. Edm/LA is 1-0.

If we get some bodies back and don't have any more injuries, our PP will improve dramatically Valardi and Ehlers are a huge part of that.

I can see this being a shorter series, and against COL or DAL, I think we can match up well, having home ice throughout the playoffs.

Round 3, if EDM or LAK make it through, would be the toughest division series.

Last 10 games of the season:

WPG - 7-3
STL - 7-2-1

COL - 5-4-1
DAL - 3-5-2

LVK - 6-2-2
MIN - 5-3-2

EDM - 7-3
LA - 8-2

blue_gold_84 · April 23, 2025, 06:19:17 PM

Playoff Practice Report Apr. 23

Vilardi in non-contact jersey, Ehlers absent (won't travel with team), DeMelo absent (maintenance).

Team is off to St. Louis this afternoon.

J5V · April 25, 2025, 02:28:34 AM

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 23, 2025, 06:19:17 PMPlayoff Practice Report Apr. 23

Vilardi in non-contact jersey, Ehlers absent (won't travel with team), DeMelo absent (maintenance).

Team is off to St. Louis this afternoon.

No DeMelo, I hear he's sick. That's more bad luck. Blues are flying tonight up 3-0 in the first and Binnington looks sharp! As you say, this was never going to be easy. Blues are a very good team and for these next 2 games they'll get last change. Hellebuyck needs to slam the door but I'm not sure he has it tonight. This game looking like us against the Avs in last year's playoffs.

dd · April 25, 2025, 02:52:07 AM

Hellebuyck has looked ho hum, we need better goaltending than that, especially missing Vilardi, eihlers, and DeMello. We're in trouble. The series is going back to Winnipeg Tied and I'm hoping we can get the momentum back but that isn't a given

J5V · April 25, 2025, 03:39:13 AM

Quote from: dd on April 25, 2025, 02:52:07 AMHellebuyck has looked ho hum, we need better goaltending than that, especially missing Vilardi, eihlers, and DeMello. We're in trouble. The series is going back to Winnipeg Tied and I'm hoping we can get the momentum back but that isn't a given

In all 3 games of this series we haven't been able to match the Blue's intensity in the first period. Arneil needs to come up with something to reverse that trend.

I thought Perfetti had clearly scored and so did many of the talking heads. I haven't been pleased with the officiating in this series. Blues have been getting away with a lot of cross checks, hooks, and trips but we sure haven't, especially in this game. Horrible phantom trip penalty called against us after letting the Blues away with several questionable non-calls. I fear that if that trend doesn't even out it's going to be too much to overcome.

J5V · April 25, 2025, 04:10:32 AM

Wow! I've never seen Scott Arneil that mad. He was absolutely livid! As soon as we closed the gap to 3-1 (which would have been 3-2 if Perfetti's goal had counted) with lots of time left in the 3rd we got absolutely screwed to go down 4-1 and then the refs put us down 3-5 to go down 5-1! Then still on the PP the Blues got another one to go up 6-1. That was the end of Hellebuyck and Eric Comrie came in.

Do we have an answer for that sasquatch, Buchnevich? He is destroying us out there and we suddenly look small.

Well, it's big boy hockey now. The Blues ran us all over the ice with relative impunity tonight while we got flagged for a mountain of tacky penalties. Game 4 is going to be something.

This was one of the worst officiated playoff games I have ever seen. After a brawl and a bunch of misconducts they finally gave the Jets a PP and we scored. Scott Arneil is just standing there tight-lipped staring at the Blues bench (I assume staring at Montgomery but it seems he won't make eye contact). He is PISSED! Like they did every time we scored the officials put the Blues back on a PP for the final 4 minutes of the game after Stanley sent a message by roughing up one of the Blues. That's when Lowry retrieved the puck at the Jets blue line and got a shorthanded breakaway and a Blues player latched on to him and Lowry basically carried the Blues player in tow all the way down the ice while the player tugged, hooked, and held. I fully expected a holding or hooking call on the Blues octopus but ... nope, no call. Had that been reversed I know a Jet would be in the box. Just a terribly biased game by the officials tonight. Officiating is never kind to us in the playoffs for some reason. It's difficult to beat your opponent and the officials.

This one has a distinctive odour to it, guys. I assume it's going to be even worse for game 4. Queue the nastiness, she's getting real ugly.

bluengold204 · April 25, 2025, 04:10:47 AM

Playoff hellebuck is the worst

J5V · April 25, 2025, 06:23:18 AM

Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2025, 04:10:47 AMPlayoff hellebuck is the worst

Do you know the last time the Jets lost two in a row? March 4th.

Do you know the last time they lost two in a row in regulation? January 20

I'm not worried

blue_gold_84 · April 25, 2025, 01:18:43 PM

Yeah, that was a pathetic showing last night by the road team. I was expecting a pushback from the Blues but the Jets had no answer for the bulk of that game. They were handily beaten and that should serve as a wake-up call. This team has shown it can respond to ugly losses; now is the most crucial time to show that resolve.

It's an interesting coincidence that in round 1 of the 2018 playoffs, the Jets took a 2-0 series lead into Minnesota, and the Wild hammered them 6-2.

Just gotta flush game 3, regroup (coaches and players alike), and get ready for what should be a raucous game 4 on Sunday.

Quote from: bluengold204 on April 25, 2025, 04:10:47 AMPlayoff hellebuck is the worst

Two things become clear when you chime in here: you're ignorant to the complex nature of the game of hockey and you obviously didn't watch the game last night.

Pigskin · April 25, 2025, 02:17:22 PM

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on April 25, 2025, 01:18:43 PMYeah, that was a pathetic showing last night by the road team. I was expecting a pushback from the Blues but the Jets had no answer for the bulk of that game. They were handily beaten and that should serve as a wake-up call. This team has shown it can respond to ugly losses; now is the most crucial time to show that resolve.

It's an interesting coincidence that in round 1 of the 2018 playoffs, the Jets took a 2-0 series lead into Minnesota, and the Wild hammered them 6-2.

Just gotta flush game 3, regroup (coaches and players alike), and get ready for what should be a raucous game 4 on Sunday.

Two things become clear when you chime in here: you're ignorant to the complex nature of the game of hockey and you obviously didn't watch the game last night.

I usually don't give the trolls the time of day.

Pigskin · April 25, 2025, 02:22:07 PM

To many D-zone breakdowns. Far to many penalties. And, far to many giveaways. Agree with J5V on the CP91 goal. However the back breaker was the Helle giveaway. The sun came up this morning, so all is good.

Jockitch · April 25, 2025, 03:55:51 PM

Score was humbling
Our stars were on the ice for a lotta goals against
The total hits were remarkable.
Refs were to busy flinching from avoiding the action that they were unable to call a good game

Only one loss and Sunday may be quite different, in a Jets positive manner

dd · April 25, 2025, 05:29:26 PM

Well that game sucked!! Blues are very tough to beat at home, but really, that was brutal. Agree the Perfetti goal was in, John Garrett did a good job on showing it was clearly in, but heck, in this stinker it didn't really matter.

Helleybuyck is trying to do too much, for the love of god, please quit playing the puck and focus on stopping it!! He is struggling big time man, and he goes, so do we.