S. Lemon

Started by Blue In BC, August 28, 2024, 02:56:40 PM

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Blue In BC

Has been squeezed and the lifetime ban upheld. I'm not surprised in the ruling.

I am surprised that a player making a bet receives a higher penalty then Kelly did. Let's leave it at that.

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Quote from: Blue In BC on August 28, 2024, 02:56:40 PMHas been squeezed and the lifetime ban upheld. I'm not surprised in the ruling.

I am surprised that a player making a bet receives a higher penalty then Kelly did. Let's leave it at that.

One was an emotional reaction to a volatile situation and one was a conceived plan of action.

Stretch

Any chance Montreal has to forfeit wins they got with him in the lineup? I know they won't have to, but it would be nice.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Stretch on August 28, 2024, 03:52:22 PMAny chance Montreal has to forfeit wins they got with him in the lineup? I know they won't have to, but it would be nice.

No but it does show that the arbitration needs to happen more quickly and while a player is suspended. Obviously he was suspended after 4 games but look how long it took to complete the arbitration.

There has to be a better more expedient way to handle any suspension.

It's been discussed before. If a player is suspended for 2 or 3 games after game 16 - 17 for example, he shouldn't be allowed to appeal and continue playing. It could change the outcome of a season.
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theaardvark

Two words.  Pete Rose.

Now, the fact that the Als have a Sprts Betting site patch on their jerseys is kind of ironic, but still.

Now, can we protest the game they won over us for using an illegal player?
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dd

I think its sad what happened to Pete Rose and now Shawn Lemon.

Athlete's are humans, they make mistakes, to give someone a lifetime ban for gambling is ridiculous. League's are filled with athletes who are drug addicts, gang members, adulterers, DUI's etc etc, and the hill we die on is placing a bet?? whatever, sad. The league generates revenue by advertizing gambling to entice people to do it. Now we suspend a player for life. Hypocrites.

blue_gold_84

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We're all human. What does that have to do with anything?

Athletes aren't special, nor should they get special treatment. Lemon made a mistake - multiple times. More importantly here, however, is he didn't take accountability for his actions. Despite being a well-known player in the league, he demonstrated no humility or remorse. In fact, he retired, was then suspended, only to appeal the suspension, "unretire" and then re-join the Als. Comical hubris.

Good riddance.
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theaardvark

Did Lemon's actions hurt the game, or affect outcomes?  We haven't been given those facts.

Did Lemon know of the leagues rules in this respect?  Had he ever heard of Pete Rose?  Did he know the potential outcome of his actions?  Pretty sure he knew, and thought he wasn't going to get caught, and even if caught, would just get a slap on the wrist.

But, like other posters have said, he had no remorse, and in fact attempted to get around the punishments.  He garnered a few more game cheques which was wrong.  The CFL could not suspend him during an appeal, but the Als could have.  Would we have beaten them with him out of the lineup?  He was thier top D player with 5 tackles and a sack... but it was a 15 point loss.  Still, its a different game without him on the field.

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dd

Seems to me, Kenny Lawler didn't have any remorse for his DUI until it became an issue, months well after the fact. Athletes do all sorts of crazy things that they don't have any remorse for but still are allowed to play. Chad Kelly being one of them. How is this any different than that?? And why is Kelly allowed to play in lemon banned for life?? Its the inconsistency and hypocrisy that bothers me, But whatever, the world is full of messed up things, that no one can explain

Waffler

Gambling is different because it calls into question the integrity of the game. How many fans would just say "it's fixed" and tune out? Rose, for example, is known to have bet on games he played in and managed. It was not just a few times, he started in 1975 and continued to 1989 when he was caught.
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Quote from: Waffler on August 28, 2024, 09:04:33 PMGambling is different because it calls into question the integrity of the game. How many fans would just say "it's fixed" and tune out? Rose, for example, is known to have bet on games he played in and managed. It was not just a few times, he started in 1975 and continued to 1989 when he was caught.

Exactly.
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TBURGESS

I don't care if players bet on other teams games, but I do care if they bet on their own games.
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Waffler

Quote from: TBURGESS on August 28, 2024, 09:55:40 PMI don't care if players bet on other teams games, but I do care if they bet on their own games.

As Lemon DID, when with Calgary.
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ichabod_crane

Quote from: theaardvark on August 28, 2024, 06:53:52 PMDid Lemon know of the leagues rules in this respect?  Had he ever heard of Pete Rose?  Did he know the potential outcome of his actions?  Pretty sure he knew, and thought he wasn't going to get caught, and even if caught, would just get a slap on the wrist.


Let's go back even further...The Black Sox Scandal of 1919 and Shoeless Joe Jackson! Never played in the BIGS again after that fiasco.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Stretch on August 28, 2024, 03:52:22 PMAny chance Montreal has to forfeit wins they got with him in the lineup? I know they won't have to, but it would be nice.

I declare the 2023 GC champs to be WPG due to MTL fielding an illegal player!   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
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