Als at TiCats GDT

Started by GOLDMEMBER, August 02, 2024, 10:44:36 PM

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dd

The fumble was an absolute embarrassment to the officials. Totally screwed the play up. I don't know how the officials rstionalize what they did out there but that was a disgrace, an absolute incompetent disgrace

J5V

Quote from: dd on August 03, 2024, 03:44:14 PMThe fumble was an absolute embarrassment to the officials. Totally screwed the play up. I don't know how the officials rstionalize what they did out there but that was a disgrace, an absolute incompetent disgrace
Just wait until they cost a team a playoff berth or even worse, a playoff win. Maybe then, finally, this league will do something about this bush league garbage.

Since we are all fans of CFL football it is an embarrassment to all of us. I can't imagine what our neighbours to the South think of that incompetence. Just embarrassing.

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- Implementing and enforcing league rules and regulations
- Developing and refining officiating procedures and protocols
- Providing guidance and training to on-field officials
- Collaborating with the CFL Rules Committee to propose and implement rule changes aimed at enhancing player safety and improving game flow
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dd

Nobody can understand what proulx was thinking on that play, and the scary part is, he's the ref in charge of the crew!! How is it command centre couldn't interject and correct the blunder??

Blue In BC

Quote from: dd on August 03, 2024, 03:57:25 PMNobody can understand what proulx was thinking on that play, and the scary part is, he's the ref in charge of the crew!! How is it command centre couldn't interject and correct the blunder??

It was an outrageous blunder.I thought I heard a comment that the whistle blew the play dead early which negates any recovery after the fact. 

That would make it two errors. Geez.
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Quote from: J5V on August 03, 2024, 03:52:03 PMJust wait until they cost a team a playoff berth or even worse, a playoff win. Maybe then, finally, this league will do something about this bush league garbage.

Since we are all fans of CFL football it is an embarrassment to all of us. I can't imagine what our neighbours to the South think of that incompetence. Just embarrassing.

8x ---
As the Head of CFL Officiating, Glen Johnson's role involves overseeing the league's officiating department, including:

- Implementing and enforcing league rules and regulations
- Developing and refining officiating procedures and protocols
- Providing guidance and training to on-field officials
- Collaborating with the CFL Rules Committee to propose and implement rule changes aimed at enhancing player safety and improving game flow
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Re: I can't imagine what our neighbours to the South think of that incompetence.

They can relate because they see it in all of the leagues in their country too.

DM83

#80
A basic constant of pass interference used to be " any contact the causes an unfair advantage is pass interference."  There used to be stements like " positional advantage" whoever established  the path to the arrival point of the ball can't have it taken away by contact.  The calls against the Bombers were rediculous.  How is the female in the sideline reffing.  She had a play in front of her and there was no flag.  Did she have a deep coverage responsibility?

If she is qualified, like anyone else, and has earned the opportunity I am all for it.  I just wonder how many males with equal or superior skills are ignored, for her benefit.?my she looked very hesitant, passive and un assertive.

Pete

#81
the thing is the command center isn't correcting the wrong calls, regardless of who makes them.
And the other factor is regardless of what the rules states, the cfl also dictates to what extent the rules get enforced Holding is one example, screening is another . On the other extreme is rtp being enforces on a touch to the qbs head.(which i think is ridiculas)
the latest Ambrosiaism is that if it can only be determined to be an error by going to slow motion then it isnt an error and shouldn't be overturned. (in part referring to the adage i guess that there must be clear and obvious evidence to overturn on field call)

TecnoGenius

Quote from: J5V on August 03, 2024, 12:37:20 AMJust horrible officiating.

Quote from: bomb squad on August 03, 2024, 02:02:32 AMNow that I think about more, maybe they can't reverse a "no immediate recovery" ruling. They should be able to though.

It appears to me the ref who was closest and blew it dead realizes just how badly he botched it, and only after a while they came up with the "no immediate recovery" lie explanation.  It was one big poop show.

However, with the Demski-challenge-for-a-loss fiasco we have learned the refs have a superpower to decide in their heads the play is dead and everything after that point doesn't exist (and us plebes might not know about it for a few more seconds as their lips take ages to whistle it dead).  And it's so stupid because everyone can clearly see the important aspects occurring before the whistle sounds!  (In this case the fumble recovery.)

Just like the Demski fiasco, the refs are mandated by rule to never blow their whistle until they are SURE the play is dead.  And just like the Demski fiasco, they botched it baaaaaaaaadly.  And just like the Demski fiasco, this is Proulx's unit (however, it wasn't #22 screwing up this time).

100% command needs to be able to override these mistakes.  And 100% these fast-blowing refs need to be reprimanded and/or fired.  They found a loophole to rig games if they want, and command seemingly can't do anything about it.  I remember some NFL games where a hideously bad call on the field wasn't challengeable but the field refs saw how it was ridiculous and just overturned the call to make things right.  Our refs/command should do the same.

Quote from: bomb squad on August 03, 2024, 01:49:52 AMThat was definitely a time to evoke the "step in" rule. It was an egregiously bad call. As a matter of fact, I think it was the worst call I can ever remember seeing.

After reading all of the command rules, I think the "integrity of the game" rule needs to be invoked more.  If this fumble screwup doesn't destroy the integrity of the game, I don't know what does.

Quote from: pdirks67 on August 03, 2024, 12:47:06 AMI actually thought that CFL officiating had steadily improved over the last 4-5 years and had gotten pretty good last year. No one's perfect and mistakes will always be made. But the mistakes had become smaller and less frequent. This year - WHAT IS GOING ON???!!!!

You are 100% right.  Refs were getting better.  Command was generally getting things right.  I can't recall anything like the garbage going on this season.  I expect the refs to botch calls but then when teams spend a challenge on them the correct call NEEDS to be made.

Giving teams crap calls and then robbing them of their challenge too adds insult to injury and upsets everyone.  When everyone in the league knows it's wrong, even the team benefiting from the call, you know you're doing a bad job.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: The Zipp on August 03, 2024, 02:06:20 AMMontreal proving they are the real deal

They proved that in week 1.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: ichabod_crane on August 03, 2024, 07:02:06 AMCOCKY or ASSERTIVE/CONFIDENT?....a fine line. I never felt he was arrogant. Maybe to some people he came across that way. I WANT A CONFIDENT QB any day who is willing to do whatever to WIN! :)

I disliked BLM just for always winning for several seasons.  Then he did his "we'll show them what kind of team they are" in our barn.  That's when I switched to hating him because he 100% was cocky to an extreme rarely seen in the CFL.  (And I refuse to accept his attempted retconning excuse -- just CYA lies made up after the fact.)

The ABC (=ABBLM) part of me is very happy he is stinking joints out the last few seasons.  He does get credit at being the master of milking his career for all it's worth though!  And he was good on the TSN panel.  He should hang 'em up and go do that.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on August 03, 2024, 03:57:25 PMNobody can understand what proulx was thinking on that play, and the scary part is, he's the ref in charge of the crew!! How is it command centre couldn't interject and correct the blunder??

Nothing Proulx could do.  The ref closest made the call and Proulx running over from the QB backfield just announces it.  Command needs to do something when the call clearly is disgusting, even if by rule they can't.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pete on August 04, 2024, 07:20:49 PMthe thing is the command center isn't correcting the wrong calls, regardless of who makes them.
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the latest Ambrosiaism is that if it can only be determined to be an error by going to slow motion then it isnt an error and shouldn't be overturned. (in part referring to the adage i guess that there must be clear and obvious evidence to overturn on field call)

The TOR@CGY game had another horrifically horrendous crap DPI call that was challenged and upheld.  Just an atrocious monstrosity of a shambles.

Go back to my thread about this.  Clearly, called DPIs aren't going to be overturned even when everyone can see the standard for DPI was not met by the nothing contact.  Every other year they would overturn, but not this year.  Whatever they think they are doing by changing the standard to overturn, it's not working and everyone is getting mad.

As for your point about Ambrosie: did you hear/see him say that or are you guessing based on what we've been seeing lately?
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The Zipp

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 06, 2024, 07:30:48 AMThey proved that in week 1.

some can't still comprehend that Maas is a good coach and Fajardo is a quality CFL QB.

I will still think that if the Bombers sign Sankey last season when he was available (and Bighill playing hurt) we win the Grey Cup.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: The Zipp on August 06, 2024, 03:27:10 PMsome can't still comprehend that Maas is a good coach and Fajardo is a quality CFL QB.

I will still think that if the Bombers sign Sankey last season when he was available (and Bighill playing hurt) we win the Grey Cup.

That doesn't address the issues on offense in that game, though.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: The Zipp on August 06, 2024, 03:27:10 PMsome can't still comprehend that Maas is a good coach and Fajardo is a quality CFL QB.

Cody can do ok when he has a great supporting cast.  Once they put McGloster in at RT and their OL was arguably league-best, and he was surrounded by a league top-3 R corps, and had the best D by far, then he could shine.  So would many/most decent vet QBs in that situation.  Remember, Cody has been in the CFL, what, 10 years?

But Cody didn't win that GC.  It was crazy good Ento robbing us of 2 TDs and the final 3rd down Hail Mary sheer-luck completion to league-best Mack that won that game.  And Calvillo.  They out-brained us by a country mile.
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