Rourke released, Signed by Atlanta...and released again AND SIGNS WITH BC

[Jesse]

What A B & C do would only matter if it was the maximum amount, but it's doesn't matter, because it's defining the minimum amounts.

A(Minimum) + B(Minimum) = C(Minimum)
D(Undefined) = Maximum

There is no D.

A = Salary Cap (Maximum) - Teams must also spend within 600k of this number.
B = NFRS (Minimum)
C = TSEC (Maximum)

A + B = C

[GOLDMEMBER]

You math heads crack me up!

[Jesse]

You math heads crack me up!

Hey, if anyone from the league or one of the teams would just give an honest answer, we wouldn't have to go through the mental gymnastics.

[Blue In BC]

We've beat this conversation to death and it seems that we know how this works and why. What more evidence do we need for clarification?

[Jesse]

We've beat this conversation to death and it seems that we know how this works and why. What more evidence do we need for clarification?

Some people just like playing the naysayer.

[TBURGESS]

There is no D.

A = Salary Cap (Maximum) - Teams must also spend within 600k of this number.
B = NFRS (Minimum)
C = TSEC (Maximum)

A + B = C

What part of 

shall be no less than

are you unclear about?

[Jesse]

What part of are you unclear about?

Not sure how long I'll keep repeating myself; but not a single person, ever, has ever suggested it can be less than 110k. In the quote of mine that you are talking about, I wrote "minimum".

I can't fathom what you're trying to suggest.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Maybe we can talk about how a defensive back doesn't need to turn to legally break up a pass?

[GOLDMEMBER]

Hey, if anyone from the league or one of the teams would just give an honest answer, we wouldn't have to go through the mental gymnastics.

It is your choice to bother doing mental gymnastics.

[TecnoGenius]

We've beat this conversation to death and it seems that we know how this works and why. What more evidence do we need for clarification?

I've been following quietly and I think it's as clear as mud.

I haven't been convinced yet that you cannot pay Rourke $10 million in "marketing" salary off of the SMS for a no-show fake "job".

And if teams can do that then the SMS means nothing and "rich" teams can outbid the "poor" teams for every player they could ever want.

[Jesse]

I've been following quietly and I think it's as clear as mud.

I haven't been convinced yet that you cannot pay Rourke $10 million in "marketing" salary off of the SMS for a no-show fake "job".

And if teams can do that then the SMS means nothing and "rich" teams can outbid the "poor" teams for every player they could ever want.

Anecdotal evidence is that we didn't do it to retain our players that we wanted to keep.

Definitive evidence is the part of the CBA that reads: TOTAL Salary Expenditure Cap.

I'm not sure how people can read the words "total" and "cap" and come to another conclusion.

[TecnoGenius]

Definitive evidence is the part of the CBA that reads: TOTAL Salary Expenditure Cap.

If that's true then no one has explained how Rourke is getting $200k marketing salary in 2025...  Misprint?  Fake news?  Or BC just admitted to cheating?

And don't tell me BC is not spending to the normal cap so they have $100k extra room to spend on marketing.  If that was the case, why not just pay Rourke $640k normal SMS plus $110k marketing?

[Jesse]

If that's true then no one has explained how Rourke is getting $200k marketing salary in 2025...  Misprint?  Fake news?  Or BC just admitted to cheating?

And don't tell me BC is not spending to the normal cap so they have $100k extra room to spend on marketing.  If that was the case, why not just pay Rourke $640k normal SMS plus $110k marketing?

It's been covered, but I'll throw it out there again.

- 110k is a minimum. Anything more will come out of the cap budget. It's written in back and white.
- Rourke is their superstar, so they're probably going to ask him to do lots of marketing, hence getting a big chunk not money to do it.
- No one has spent to the 2025 cap yet, the year hasn't even started yet. If a GM spends his whole cap before the year even starts, they're going to blow past it at the first injury. Even teams teams like us who are tight to the cap left a bunch of room.
- Yes, BC is going to have to make some cuts to their current roster to fit in the Rourke contract

[TecnoGenius]

It's been covered, but I'll throw it out there again.

- 110k is a minimum. Anything more will come out of the cap budget. It's written in back and white.
- Rourke is their superstar, so they're probably going to ask him to do lots of marketing, hence getting a big chunk not money to do it.
- No one has spent to the 2025 cap yet, the year hasn't even started yet. If a GM spends his whole cap before the year even starts, they're going to blow past it at the first injury. Even teams teams like us who are tight to the cap left a bunch of room.
- Yes, BC is going to have to make some cuts to their current roster to fit in the Rourke contract

I hope you're right!  What you say makes sense, but doesn't explain why not pay him the extra $90k in normal salary?  Even if he shows up to tons more marketing gigs, he's not doing $200k worth.  Heck, he's not going to do even $110k worth of gigs.  Those numbers are both plain silly and everyone knows it.

And if you believe 2025 BC isn't going to spend to within $90k of the cap, I have a bridge near the BDI to sell you.  Yes, that's the future, but any GC-contender West team is going to spend to the cap -- and beyond.

If you're right, then the whole "marketing money" thing is just useless obfuscation.  Just say the cap is $110k more than it is now and if teams want to have players appear places, just write it into their normal contract.  Having this confusion and obfuscation does not aid league/team transparency.  It literally provides no value to anyone or anything.  It's dumb.

[Blue In BC]

I've been following quietly and I think it's as clear as mud.

I haven't been convinced yet that you cannot pay Rourke $10 million in "marketing" salary off of the SMS for a no-show fake "job".

And if teams can do that then the SMS means nothing and "rich" teams can outbid the "poor" teams for every player they could ever want.

You're always looking for a conspiracy.