Rourke released, Signed by Atlanta...and released again AND SIGNS WITH BC

Started by Blue In BC, July 28, 2024, 02:45:39 PM

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Blue In BC

Quote from: Stats Junkie on August 15, 2024, 04:55:30 PMA team can not retroactively place a player on the 6-game IL. Mike O'Shea has mentioned this a couple of times on the Coach's Show this year. He has said that the Blue Bombers default is to place injured players on the 6-game list because they can't retroactively do so.

Ok. Then the Lions should have placed Adams on the 6 game IR. It would have saved them some SMS and as I mentioned, Rourke won't be coming off the field unless he's injured.

One game at a time.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 15, 2024, 05:25:42 PMOk. Then the Lions should have placed Adams on the 6 game IR. It would have saved them some SMS and as I mentioned, Rourke won't be coming off the field unless he's injured.



It only saves the Lions SMS if he spends 6 games on the list. He also is unable to practice for most of the stint too. Since he was on the roster last game, it seems very unlikely that he will need to.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 15, 2024, 05:28:11 PMIt only saves the Lions SMS if he spends 6 games on the list. He also is unable to practice for most of the stint too. Since he was on the roster last game, it seems very unlikely that he will need to.

I understand that but he's also not practising yet and it's not clear on when he'll be able to do that. If Rourke can show up and start this week, then how much practice does Adams need when he's been here all season and before? It comes down to health and then a need to play.

I'd say the need for him to play is next to zero if Rourke doesn't get injured. So it's risk management against SMS management and that may have changed once Rourke arrived.

Also, I've never been clear about the taking off players from the 6 game IR early and being allowed two a season.

We know any number of players can be taken off early but I thought that two could be taken off early without SMS applying if less than 6 games.

One game at a time.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 15, 2024, 05:41:27 PMI understand that but he's also not practising yet and it's not clear on when he'll be able to do that. If Rourke can show up and start this week, then how much practice does Adams need when he's been here all season and before? It comes down to health and then a need to play.

I'd say the need for him to play is next to zero if Rourke doesn't get injured. So it's risk management against SMS management and that may have changed once Rourke arrived.

Also, I've never been clear about the taking off players from the 6 game IR early and being allowed two a season.

We know any number of players can be taken off early but I thought that two could be taken off early without SMS applying if less than 6 games.

Teams can remove two players per season who have been on the 6-game for seven or more games without penalty.

gobombersgo

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 15, 2024, 05:48:35 PMTeams can remove two players per season who have been on the 6-game for seven or more games without penalty.

Lawler was removed early from his 2nd stint of being on the 6 game injured list. Those extra 2 games may not count against the cap.

What I am not clear of is if teams need to declare if they are using one of the 2 exemptions on a player or if it is automatically used on the 1st 2 players a team takes of the 2nd set of 6 games.

theaardvark

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 15, 2024, 04:54:25 PM2024 Dru Brown (4th year in league) - 8 starts, 66% completion percentage, 1936 yards (242 per game), 6 TDs, 4 INTs
2023 Jake Dolegala (2nd year in league) - 10 starts, 65% completion percentage, 2641 yards (264 per game), 11 TDs, 9 INTs 

Take player bias out of it and on paper it's very similar.

If you can watch Dolegala and Brown' tapes and say that, not sure... stats are only part of the story.
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Jesse

Quote from: theaardvark on August 15, 2024, 06:44:50 PMIf you can watch Dolegala and Brown' tapes and say that, not sure... stats are only part of the story.

Brown looked pretty terrible his first few years here. And obviously had a much better supporting cast than Dolegala's time in Sask.

I'm not advocating for Dolegala here, but I'm not sure your opinion is based on anything other than Brown being a former Bomber. How many non-Bomber games would you say you watch?
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Blue In BC

Quote from: gobombersgo on August 15, 2024, 06:39:24 PMLawler was removed early from his 2nd stint of being on the 6 game injured list. Those extra 2 games may not count against the cap.

What I am not clear of is if teams need to declare if they are using one of the 2 exemptions on a player or if it is automatically used on the 1st 2 players a team takes of the 2nd set of 6 games.

Lawler was extended on the 6 game IR on July 26th and has now missed 8 games. So he could be taken off this week and be exempt from the extra 2 game SMS. Or the team could leave him there for another week.

We're expecting for him to be added to the AR this week since he's a full participant at practice.

Wheatfall may come off but it's more likely they leave him on the 6 game IR even though he's an ELC guy. However he might be bumped to the PR just as easily.
One game at a time.

theaardvark

Quote from: Jesse on August 15, 2024, 07:38:26 PMBrown looked pretty terrible his first few years here. And obviously had a much better supporting cast than Dolegala's time in Sask.

I'm not advocating for Dolegala here, but I'm not sure your opinion is based on anything other than Brown being a former Bomber. How many non-Bomber games would you say you watch?

I pvr and watch every CFL game.

Dru came into games and won them cod off the bench.

He impressed us in just about every game he played in.

Dolegala has been, at best, a novelty in being a 6'7 QB.  He's not the worst ever, but noting in his play ever impressed me.



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Lincoln Locomotive

We'll see if Rourke can overcome the short. practice week with the Lions and take us out....apparently he's a quick study and knows about 90% of their offence.   He will definitely be an upgrade to Dolegala and he I'm sure remembers his last CFL game against us in the WF.....he wasn't 100% recovered from his injury in that game and still managed to keep the Lions in the game, albeit it wasn't his best showing.
Bomber D has to come up big if we expect to win and Zach has to be on his game as well.....and he hasn't exactly been consistent this season.   
This will likely be the most watched game across the CFL this season as everyone wants to see Rourke back in the CFL.   
Bombers will make a statement if they win and likely miss the playoffs if they go to 3-7 as the West just got tighter with the resurgence of Edmonton.
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Quote from: Waffler on August 15, 2024, 10:56:21 PM22 months ago but I bet he remembers.
I hope he has a similar outing against us on Sunday. Rourke and Trevor Harris being thrown into the fire immediately upon their return to the CFL.
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on August 15, 2024, 10:00:06 PMWe'll see if Rourke can overcome the short. practice week with the Lions and take us out....apparently he's a quick study and knows about 90% of their offence.   He will definitely be an upgrade to Dolegala and he I'm sure remembers his last CFL game against us in the WF.....he wasn't 100% recovered from his injury in that game and still managed to keep the Lions in the game, albeit it wasn't his best showing.
Bomber D has to come up big if we expect to win and Zach has to be on his game as well.....and he hasn't exactly been consistent this season.   
This will likely be the most watched game across the CFL this season as everyone wants to see Rourke back in the CFL.   
Bombers will make a statement if they win and likely miss the playoffs if they go to 3-7 as the West just got tighter with the resurgence of Edmonton.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on August 15, 2024, 12:28:23 PMIt proves the opposite actually. This is how much they were willing to pay him and he still took off to go the NFL PR thing for 1.5 seasons.

That's a big assumption!  You think BC was going to offer him $750k in FA '23 to hang around?  Or is it that they have to offer that to him now to lure him away from the NFL perennial PR squad merry-go-round?

Who's to say that they tried $600 Zach money and Rourke didn't just say "I'll keep trying NFL teams"?

The whole point is going from Zach $600 to $700 (or $800) will draw NFL PR QBs into the CFL.  I still think this proves my point.  The confounding factor is a) BC is cheating off-SMS, and b) there's no big overall SMS increase to justify spending $750 on a QB so it may hamstring BC's roster like in '21.

One more point: it sounds like if another NFL team comes a'callin' next week Rourke can just up and leave that day.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 15, 2024, 02:41:04 PMI'm not convinced we'd win many games if Steveler needed to start.

Uh, didn't Strev win us our first game of 2024 in his only start?  Don't discount Strev.  We haven't seen his best yet.  I am fine with him being our #2 unless it's clear Zach is down rolling into the post-season.
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