Would you go for it on that 3rd down?

Started by TecnoGenius, July 28, 2024, 09:54:58 AM

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Would you go for it on that 3rd down? (WPG@TOR late 4th Q)

Yes - We always get that 1 yard
18 (47.4%)
No - Kick the FG
20 (52.6%)

Total Members Voted: 38

Voting closed: August 01, 2024, 09:54:58 AM

The Zipp

looked to me that Clercius missed his block on the sneak...Rookies are going to make mistakes.

jdrattops

Quote from: Jesse on July 28, 2024, 06:36:43 PMOur percentage going for it on one yard is better than Castillo's FG percentage. It best the best opportunity for success but unfortunately nothing is guaranteed.
We only needed a point at the time and the game would have been over. 

jdrattops

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 29, 2024, 05:19:59 AMRs are trained to run into/between 2 defenders when they are waiting in front.

Over, under, between, or with a pitch fork in hand.  The point is protecting the ball.

blue_or_die

I was pro-go for it at the time and still am.

The alternative was what, Sergio missing another chip shot? Then this thread would have been the exact reverse of what it is.

The spot was wrong. Otherwise this thread wouldn't be happening at all.
#Ride?

Blitzer

#34
Streveler always makes it when they run off tackle. It looked like that 1 yard run was more up the middle, where all the players are all packed together! WT*. It looks like the Bombers are scared to make mistakes. Just move your A**ES and play football! It's the players fault totally for losing. They're either not trying or they're incapable. The Bombers offence is terrible. They look like some kind of expansion team.

theaardvark

Doug Brown was on CJOB this morning and agreed that go for it was the right move.

Streveler is almost 100% in converting that play.  Castillo's % is lower.  And Grant is there to run back a miss as well.

There are so many variables, but the main one is Streveler makes that play almost 100% of the time, pretty sure he was 100% at that point so far this season.

He makes it, we burn the clock and either score a TD or kick with 0:00 left.
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DM83

#36
Going for it with the best shirt yardage QB in the world is a gimme.
Ok we missed one, they flunked it off.
Just the same the O-line needs replacements.

Re structure some salaries. So we can pay some aggressive in shape uninjured guys.
Our guys look too old to bother, with no leadership, and. Just nit capable at this level.

A lot of guys not even putting in maximum effort. Losers make excuses Winnners make it happen.
Guess what we are.

Sir Blue and Gold

Going for it made sense. I don't fault the call at all.

theaardvark

#38
Quote from: DM83 on July 29, 2024, 04:20:03 PMGoing for it with the best shirt yardage QB in the world is a gimme.
Ok we missed one, they flunked it off.
Just the same the O-line needs replacements.

Re structure some salaries. So we can pay some aggressive in shape uninjured guys.
Our guys look too old to bother, with no leadership, and. Just nit capable at this level.

A lot of guys not even putting in maximum effort. Losers make excuses Winnners make it happen.
Guess what we are.

Your hat must be tired of you talking through it (I would have used a different euphemism, but this is a PG site.)

Not hearing excuses from the team, although they have many they could make.  Other than the chips, this team has taken their lumps, and committed to getting better, and getting back on track, and "getting up off the mat".

If there was a single player on this roster that was ANY of the derogatory terms you have heaped on them, MOS/Walters would have handed them an apple and a roadmap long ago.
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LXTSN

You gotta go for it there. If we make it, it's game over.
If we kick the field goal we give them a chance. They haven't moved the ball great, but they would have three downs to work with so I think there's a chance they get into FG range.

Nic16

18 for 18 on 3rdn1.
And with a better camera angle (NFL like) I bet it would clearly show Streveler crossed the 1D mark.

J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 28, 2024, 09:54:58 AMAnd no cheating because you know it didn't work out!  Be honest: what were you screaming at the TV before you saw Strevie run out.

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The most controversial HC decision of the game.  Even more interesting after Dinwiddie made the same choice (and failed in the same way) earlier in the game.

MOS in the past has said he considers that 1Y automatic and will always go for it.  But in his post-game he basically spelled out next time he'll take the points... which is strange to see MOS contradict his previous statements.  However, maybe when he said "always" before, he really meant "always under normal game circumstances".

Everyone knows where I stand!  I'm with (the old) MOS.  It should be automatic for a decent team with a good sneaker.  WPG has always been stellar at SY.  I was screaming "go for it", and I stand by that and would do it again.  Every time this season we've given a team 3-down ball at the end of the game we've lost.  Go for the win that's in your hands.

The danger of a bad spot was always there and I believe I even called it live. It's pretty hard to deny the ball going through the uprights though. I would have made the decision that left the refs out of it as much as possible. It was too big a gamble, especially the way our D was playing.
Go Bombers!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: jdrattops on July 29, 2024, 02:51:09 PMWe only needed a point at the time and the game would have been over.

Are you suuuuuuuuure?  When they blew in that 3rd down gamble the clock said 1:14.  You suuuuuuuuuure we can hold a desperate 3-down-mode good TOR team (yes they are good) to nothing, or just a FG (which will give the same result as blowing the sneak)?

Are you suuuuuuure Castillo gets that FG from 30YL, which is where he'd kick from?

Again, how many games and cups have we lost by playing super safe on 2nd down (like both GCs) or screwed up FGs ('22 GC, this TOR game).

What makes you feel worse as a fan: having full control of the ball and coming up short, or giving the ball back and watching the other team ram it down our throats?
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: J5V on July 29, 2024, 10:35:00 PMThe danger of a bad spot was always there and I believe I even called it live. It's pretty hard to deny the ball going through the uprights though. I would have made the decision that left the refs out of it as much as possible. It was too big a gamble, especially the way our D was playing.

A bit ironic given how we lost the game: by a ball wobbling in and out over the uprights leaving the entire game up to the one ref staring up hoping his eye is aligned with the post properly and he can properly measure a ball position within an inch 30Y above his head!

At least the spot was reviewable and reviewed!  The kick result gets no second guess ever because there are no cams to triangulate.
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