Would you go for it on that 3rd down?

[The Zipp]

I liked the call to go for it in general - however given the game situation and the way it was going - take the points. 

Dinwiddie kept us in the game with his choice - they kick the FG - they win the game. 

[TBURGESS]

Both Toronto and Winnipeg should have taken the FG's instead of going for 3rd and 1. 

[theaardvark]

Yes.  We always get that one yard.  We have Mr. One Yard in Streveler, and we had done it easily multiple times.

We get that one yard, and it is game over.  You take the 3, and there is a chance for them to tie.  And Castillo had missed one yesterday.

This season we are 100% on short yardage.  100%.

The minute MOS calls the "safe" play, we lose.  It always seems to be the way.  So I do not fault him for going for it.

And, Streveler got the yardage, we got screwed on the spot and review.

Last item.  On a FG in the last 3 min, we have to kick off.  Kick off to: Janarion Grant.  Who had scored a return TD in three straight games.  A KO return for a TD wins the game.  We make the first, we can run down the clock and kick the FG with 0:00 on the clock.

Plus, in choosing to, the coach is saying he 100% beleives in his team's ability to deliver in the crunch.  Kicking the FG says he has doubts.

So, yeah, I go for it, every time.

[Jesse]

I don't feel it was the highest percentage play yesterday.  Our Oline was being manhandled up the middle, and we also made an in game change with Eli in for Neufeld.  You also need a proper spot from incompetent officials.

Our percentage going for it on one yard is better than Castillo's FG percentage. It best the best opportunity for success but unfortunately nothing is guaranteed.

[dd]

we haven't scored more than 16 points in 3 games!!! you take the points as our offense 'doesn't got this', that's the problem. Points are extremely hard to come by, so when you get the chance to take the lead in a tight game, with time running out, you Take the 3 points, take the lead. Kick it off, our ST did a great job on Grant, he didn't scare me last night at all, and watch toronto go 2 and out, like they had for the last 3 quarters of the game. Did they even have 100 yd3 offense in the entire game?!?!

[TecnoGenius]

I thought they were just trying to pull the Argos offside. If that didn't work they would kick the FG. That said, it was the 1st time IIRC that we failed in a 3rd in short this season?

Yup.  We've been 100%... until then.  And Prukop was near 100% last year on 3rd (excluding any passing SY attempt).  We pride ourselves on that 1Y being automatic.  Hence why we usually go for it anywhere within 2Y (remember Strevie's first sneak this season @PAS??).

[TecnoGenius]

A tough position for them they way they were struggling to move the ball. Worst case they tie the game up with a field goal.

We've been very bad for about a year in stopping teams who are in 3-down mode.  It cost us the '23 GC, remember.  With nothing to lose, Arbuckle could go into that all-deep-ish mode he was in when he came in relief last week.

Think of how many times our team has botched things by being wimpy on O and giving up the ball in the last 1-2 mins.  I maintain that lost us both '22 and '23 GCs.  Wimpy calls on critical drives.

I made a whole thread after the GC about being more "bold".  We've been way too safe for at least 1.5 seasons... and we're not good enough to win being "safe".  We need to be bold.  MOS always going for it on 3rd & 1 (before yesterday's post-game) is bold.  As such you go for it.  And you work on it with Strev & the hoggies so that you get to 99% like LeFeve did and Prukop was close to.  If you can't get 99%, find some hoggies that can.

[TecnoGenius]

Running into a crowd of tacklers not protecting the ball.  He'll never learn.

Rs are trained to run into/between 2 defenders when they are waiting in front.

[TecnoGenius]

I think The Riders stopped us on 3rd & short lastgame?

Pretty sure no.  Remember, SY I Watch Like A Hawk (TM).  And don't worry, Junkie will correct me if I'm wrong! 

[TecnoGenius]

My first thought was we were going to pretend to go for it and then call a timeout.  I was very surprised MOS went for it considering how Toronto offensively wasn't moving the ball very well all game.  He usually is very conservative on these plays. 

a) MOS has never once played the "fake it to draw them offside" game.  Other HCs/DCs know this.

b) The "draw offside" trick is almost always done in the gun, not under C.  So they could tell from our alignment it was probably for real.

c) MOS has outright said in numerous pressers that he considers the 1Y sneak automatic and will always go for it.

d) Clearly TOR DC knows what I know because those TOR guys lined up and were set like they meant business.  We all know which HCs like to play silly games and the DLs often will ease up their tension so they don't accidentally go offside.

[TecnoGenius]

But... Sergio missed his kick later so who's to say he made this one. We may have lost in regulation.

Great point.  Wasn't the distance around the same as the O/T Castillo miss?  If he missed in regulation then Grant has a chance for a big return.

We also lost the '22 GC in a similar way thinking we were going to get a do-able FG.

I love the point here about our SY being of higher percentage than the FG... as such you'd actually have to be mental to go for the FG!!

[theaardvark]

The stop being made by Theadric Hansen kinda stung...

[TecnoGenius]

with time running out, you Take the 3 points, take the lead. Kick it off, our ST did a great job on Grant, he didn't scare me last night at all

Grant scares me every time we kick to him.  Our coverage did what half the other teams couldn't this season: stop him without a big gain every time.

[TecnoGenius]

The stop being made by Theadric Hansen kinda stung...

Was it?  Ugh... Wasn't Hansen here in 2019 when Strev was?  Maybe he remembered out plans and tendencies.

You're right: insult to injury.

[TecnoGenius]

I think of this play this way:

How would I feel if:

- The D blows it and we outright lose via a TOR TD?  So many of those in the last couple of seasons.  I hate it because of course the Os always have the advantage, even when they are bad, because they know the play, they call the shots, and they have 3 downs.  This would drive me bananas, because you feel so powerless, and that's because you are because you relinquished the initiative.

- We pull a '22 GC and miss the FG and lose it in spectacular fashion.  I'd go mental because we weren't bold and essentially told (insulted!) our O that they aren't good enough.

- The D lets them get into FG range (the most likely outcome) and it's off to O/T anyhow.  Same feeling as what transpired, so that's a wash.

We have to be happy (and I am!) with the decision we took because we kept the initiative, were bold, showed faith in our O (which will resonate throughout the season!), and probably succeeded regardless and got robbed by blind officials.  I hope this puts a bee in the bonnet of the OL & Strev and they go 100% the rest of the season.

There is no shame in losing being bold and trusting your near-100% SY.