Rasheed Bailey released?

Started by VictorRomano, July 26, 2024, 05:21:43 AM

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theaardvark

The difference between Lucky and Shhed is that Lucky came to the team from the couch, and hasn't been in our system for many years.  Sheed played last week, and was in our system last year, and all our personnel are the same as when he last played here.

Its not like Sheed has to get up to speed, he can come directly to the AR.

Surprised Pinball didn't try to trade him to us, he could have gotten a 3rd or 4th rounder, no doubt...  or at least a neg lister.
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dd

Given the state of our offense, I don't understand why signing him is taking so long. Don't over think this, this is an absolute gift from the football gods.

Waffler

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Quote from: theaardvark on July 27, 2024, 03:05:54 PMThe difference between Lucky and Shhed is that Lucky came to the team from the couch, and hasn't been in our system for many years.  Sheed played last week, and was in our system last year, and all our personnel are the same as when he last played here.

Its not like Sheed has to get up to speed, he can come directly to the AR.

Surprised Pinball didn't try to trade him to us, he could have gotten a 3rd or 4th rounder, no doubt...  or at least a neg lister.
We'd have been stuck with the salary TO signed him for, that we couldn't match. He'll have to be more affordable to sign here.
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Quote from: theaardvark on July 26, 2024, 03:43:30 PMWe have cap space.  The 6 game IR has a lot of cap space on it, even with bonuses.  Its all about whether he fits, and wants to come back after we snubbed him, a small snub before re-signing him last year, and not signing him this year. 

If Sheed can forgive us, I can't see not signing him.  He takes Schoen's place.  But I can see him looking for a 2 year deal that is a good value for this year, but a big second year. That's what I would look for as his agent, to remove the re-signing issue next year.  Can't guarantee any of it, he's not re-signing here, but at least the deal is in place and we'd have to release him to get out of it.

Offering Sheed a 2 year deal with a big second year is not going to happen unless Walters comes to his senses and frees himself of Lawler's contract somehow to free up more capital.  The team decided years ago Sheed would always be a bit player, help out where he could when he could for whatever they could afford to pay but never essential to the mix.  I think they miscalculated the value solid 3rd string receivers like Bailey and Woli play in this run heavy offence, there is plenty of grinder duty that the more elite receivers can't fulfill.

theaardvark

Quote from: Waffler on July 27, 2024, 03:13:15 PMWe'd have been stuck with the salary TO signed him for, that we couldn't match. He'll have to be more affordable to sign here.

Pretty sure his TO salary isn't as big as you may think, and as many have pointed out, there are other teams that need WR help, in better position for post season play (and substantiall extra pay) that can now vie for his services.

Trading for an Amer WR during the season is not a standard move.  But in this case, I think it would have been a shrewd move, and he'd be on our AR this week.  Which might be a reason Pinball didn't make the deal...

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 27, 2024, 03:18:17 PMOffering Sheed a 2 year deal with a big second year is not going to happen unless Walters comes to his senses and frees himself of Lawler's contract somehow.  The team decided years ago Sheed would always be a bit player, help out where he could when he could for whatever they could afford to pay but never essential to the mix.  I think they miscalculated the value solid 3rd string receivers like Bailey and Woli can add to this offence, there is plenty of grinder duty that the more elite receivers can not fulfill.

By "big" I didn't mean Lawler money, I meant decent money.  $130k range, and it always has the team option to cut at any time.  If he earns it, he gets paid.
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Quote from: theaardvark on July 27, 2024, 03:20:50 PMPretty sure his TO salary isn't as big as you may think, and as many have pointed out, there are other teams that need WR help, in better position for post season play (and substantiall extra pay) that can now vie for his services.

Trading for an Amer WR during the season is not a standard move.  But in this case, I think it would have been a shrewd move, and he'd be on our AR this week.  Which might be a reason Pinball didn't make the deal...

By "big" I didn't mean Lawler money, I meant decent money.  $130k range, and it always has the team option to cut at any time.  If he earns it, he gets paid.

I don't know if $130K would be the amount of any deal. Even so that's $56K above an ELC, but this week is already game 8. So at best he might be signed and activated for game 9.

That deal would be about $3K more per game than an ELC players: 10 X $3K = $30K for the balance of the season.

Realistically I'd think a new contact would be closer to $110K max which would be a bump of $20K for the balance of the season against the SMS.
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Lincoln Locomotive

sign him....he adds intangibles to our locker room plus he blocks downfield and helps our running game not to mention he carries the ball on occasion keeping Ds off ballance...the team needs an injection of passion which Sheed can provide in spades
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J5V

Guys, I hate to be a wet noodle, and when I heard Sheed had signed with the Argos I was crushed, but I really don't think he wants to be here. Remember, he chose to retire rather than stay with us. It kinda reminds me of what happened with AH, who also, remarkably, chose the Argos over us. Gawd I can't stand the Argos.
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J5V

Quote from: dd on July 27, 2024, 03:07:29 PMGiven the state of our offense, I don't understand why signing him is taking so long. Don't over think this, this is an absolute gift from the football gods.
What if he simply doesn't want to be here?
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dd

And that may be the situation, he knows what his role would be and he isn't happy with that. BUT, his other option at this time is to retire. I m thinking the Riders will sign him just for spite!!

bluengold204

Pass he's pretty mediocre at best

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theaardvark

Quote from: J5V on July 27, 2024, 04:31:05 PMGuys, I hate to be a wet noodle, and when I heard Sheed had signed with the Argos I was crushed, but I really don't think he wants to be here. Remember, he chose to retire rather than stay with us. It kinda reminds me of what happened with AH, who also, remarkably, chose the Argos over us. Gawd I can't stand the Argos.

The reason he didn't sign here was because we did not offer him a contract.

We had Schoen, Lawler, Demski, Wolitarski starting, all at substantially more than ELC.  5th receiver, from an $SMS viewpoint, needed to be an ELC.  And SHeed had signed here last year for less than he could have gotten elsewhere, pretty sure the club wanted him to get his full value rather than the ELC they could afford to offer, so no offer.

With Schoen out for the season, and Lawler's 6 game IR savings, we are in a totally different position now, both from a need and a $SMS position.  We can offer him $130k without issue.

He didn't retire rather than sign here, any thoughts of retirement were because he couldn't sign here.

But Pinball signed him, and then discarded him as trash.
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peg_city

A lot of money being thrown around here.

I'll be surprised if he gets anything close to that.

Maybe 100K, pro-rated.

Pete

You all know that every time we call for someone to be signed, OShea/Walters don't, ita almost like they do the opposite