CFL injuries

[theaardvark]

Woli got a devastating hit on his lower rib section, so it could be rib, back or hip that was affected, ut it definately hurt him, he's not one to stay down ever.

Wallace and Eli have been doing great in jumbo package, which might even be harder than guard seeing as the range they need to have.  Inside things happen faster, sure, but they are right there.  Wallace is a road grader, seeing him on the sidelines next to others is shocking.  If he can come in at G at any time soon, I think that's OK.

Oline and protection for Zach, and Zach's performance was not the issue.  Ball control was.  And while I hate to whine, this could not have been a more one sided game from the officiating level.  I know the review centre is in Toronto, but they sure seem to be On Toronto's team.

2-6 is not a record to be proud of, but it is not a record to give up on.  lots of teams have come back from worse, and we are 2 games ahead of EDM, and 1 behind CGY.  And playing far better than either. 

[BBRT]

Woli got a devastating hit on his lower rib section, so it could be rib, back or hip that was affected, ut it definately hurt him, he's not one to stay down ever.

Wallace and Eli have been doing great in jumbo package, which might even be harder than guard seeing as the range they need to have.  Inside things happen faster, sure, but they are right there.  Wallace is a road grader, seeing him on the sidelines next to others is shocking.  If he can come in at G at any time soon, I think that's OK.

Oline and protection for Zach, and Zach's performance was not the issue.  Ball control was.  And while I hate to whine, this could not have been a more one sided game from the officiating level.  I know the review centre is in Toronto, but they sure seem to be On Toronto's team.

2-6 is not a record to be proud of, but it is not a record to give up on.  lots of teams have come back from worse, and we are 2 games ahead of EDM, and 1 behind CGY.  And playing far better than either.

I agree with your comments on Wallace - I think he should be starting sooner than later.

[dd]

Wallace definitely has the size, he's a monster. I'd love to see him in our lineup knocking heads with the opposing D line. Conversely, I think Dobson is too small and slow to be effective inside. I 'd swap one out for the other.

[Jesse]

I guess we'll have to see if Woli and Neufeld will play this week. It's a short week which doesn't help. I think Woli just had his bell rung but he might have hurt his shoulder as well.

Didn't see Neufeld get hurt but that would force an import OL onto the AR probably with Eli starting?

When DT asked MOS post-game if Neufeld was injured or pulled for performance, MOS did not answer. Just said, "we'll see".

[TecnoGenius]

When DT asked MOS post-game if Neufeld was injured or pulled for performance, MOS did not answer. Just said, "we'll see".

Holy smokes you guys... rumors start about Neuf and all of a sudden the daggers are out?  2 weeks ago everyone would have sworn Neufeld was our 2nd best OL after Big Stan!!  Dobson, Lofton and even Ko-man were the punching bags.

I haven't studied the TOR game yet (will do soon) to see if Neuf was stinking the joint out... but even if he was, maybe he's nicked, maybe he had just one bad day.  So why is everyone turning on our best, all-star, NAT OL?  Crazy talk.

MOS saying "we'll see" is just MOS being MOS.  That's his "I'm not telling you anything" and "I have no idea about injuries until mid-week and I won't tell you then anyhow" schtick.  That's been him literally forever.

[TecnoGenius]

Woli got a devastating hit on his lower rib section, so it could be rib, back or hip that was affected, ut it definately hurt him, he's not one to stay down ever.

If he's out, that means we're down to Demski from our starting recieving corps and he's definitely got ball security issues he needs to cleanup.

Yup, my hunch is rib/lung because that's where he took a huge direct helmet hit.  Don't forget he came back in to tough our a few snaps.  He tried his best and probably updated the trainers on the pain situation and they pulled him.

But ya, could be any of the injuries you said.  Or even the infamous Collaros "thorax".

Question for those having lived it: how long would each of these injuries take to heal?

Can you guys/gals believe that out of our 5 desired week 1 starting receivers we're now down to just 1 starting in week 9??  Has this ever happened to any team ever?  The fact we're still in the fight is actually quite astounding.

[Jesse]

Holy smokes you guys... rumors start about Neuf and all of a sudden the daggers are out?  2 weeks ago everyone would have sworn Neufeld was our 2nd best OL after Big Stan!!  Dobson, Lofton and even Ko-man were the punching bags.

I haven't studied the TOR game yet (will do soon) to see if Neuf was stinking the joint out... but even if he was, maybe he's nicked, maybe he had just one bad day.  So why is everyone turning on our best, all-star, NAT OL?  Crazy talk.

MOS saying "we'll see" is just MOS being MOS.  That's his "I'm not telling you anything" and "I have no idea about injuries until mid-week and I won't tell you then anyhow" schtick.  That's been him literally forever.

Just relaying information. I didn't even know Neufeld was out until I heard DT ask the question.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Holy smokes you guys... rumors start about Neuf and all of a sudden the daggers are out?  2 weeks ago everyone would have sworn Neufeld was our 2nd best OL after Big Stan!!  Dobson, Lofton and even Ko-man were the punching bags.

I haven't studied the TOR game yet (will do soon) to see if Neuf was stinking the joint out... but even if he was, maybe he's nicked, maybe he had just one bad day.  So why is everyone turning on our best, all-star, NAT OL?  Crazy talk.

MOS saying "we'll see" is just MOS being MOS.  That's his "I'm not telling you anything" and "I have no idea about injuries until mid-week and I won't tell you then anyhow" schtick.  That's been him literally forever.

Dobson has been our best offensive lineman since about game 3. Stanley is still reliable and playing remarkably when you factor in his age. Unfortunately we don't get extra points for players playing longer than they should at an adequate level. The right side of the line has been in tough all year. Lofton has always been a pass protector mainly and Neufeld has really regressed. Kolankowski is probably playing about as good as he usually does but unfortunately when he's not surrounded by all-star play he's exposed.

Next year we'll probably have a completely rebuilt line.

[LXTSN]

It does seem like Neufeld has been the weak link this year.
I also thought that Eli would start over Dobson at the beginning of the season. I would imagine that Eli gets the opportunity to start before Wallace does.

[Nic16]

We must remind ourselves this is Dobson's first yr as a starter. He arrived to the BB's highly touted so we gotta him time to settle in.

Wallace is the RG in waiting. But like 90% of rookie OL, he needs time to figure things out.

Eli is obviously the heir apparent to Kolankowski. It's just puzzling why it's taking so long.

Lofton is arguably the weakest RT in the league. But Osh prefers vets over rooks.

Bryant needs to keep drinking from the fountain of youth, or we're in big big trouble!

[theaardvark]

We must remind ourselves this is Dobson's first yr as a starter. He arrived to the BB's highly touted so we gotta him time to settle in.

Wallace is the RG in waiting. But like 90% of rookie OL, he needs time to figure things out.

Eli is obviously the heir apparent to Kolankowski. It's just puzzling why it's taking so long.

Lofton is arguably the weakest RT in the league. But Osh prefers vets over rooks.

Bryant needs to keep drinking from the fountain of youth, or we're in big big trouble!

Not puzzling about Eli, he's an awesome 6th man, and is ready to step in at TE or OG/C in case of injury, but your vets who have time together stay together until you have a reason they shouldn't.  If Kolo gets a better offer, or gets injured, or ages out, Eli is the next man up.  Much like every year with our oline.  We stick with the vets until there is a reason not to.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Not puzzling about Eli, he's an awesome 6th man, and is ready to step in at TE or OG/C in case of injury, but your vets who have time together stay together until you have a reason they shouldn't.  If Kolo gets a better offer, or gets injured, or ages out, Eli is the next man up.  Much like every year with our oline.  We stick with the vets until there is a reason not to.

...You can't think of any reasons?! We're staring down the pipe of a full overhaul.

[Nic16]

...You can't think of any reasons?! We're staring down the pipe of a full overhaul.

Not puzzling about Eli, he's an awesome 6th man, and is ready to step in at TE or OG/C in case of injury, but your vets who have time together stay together until you have a reason they shouldn't.  If Kolo gets a better offer, or gets injured, or ages out, Eli is the next man up.  Much like every year with our oline.  We stick with the vets until there is a reason not to.

I guess performance or competition never enter the criteria?

[TecnoGenius]

Kolankowski is probably playing about as good as he usually does but unfortunately when he's not surrounded by all-star play he's exposed.

This could be true.  But we've never seen Ko-man play with a superb LG.  Him and Gray always had issues with their A-gap... got a bit better, but never as good as Desjar/Couture was.

But I don't think WFC wants to ditch Ko-man: they've made him the "don't vape @PAS" jumbotron guy (ditching the much scarier and more effective Big Stan one IMHO), and they just gave him a practice presser last week (that NEVER happens... strange timing).  I think the team is trying to build him up, not get ready to show him the door on a trade or FA.

And I'll never be sold on Eli as the starting C until I see it in action and it works AND he puts on 20+ more lbs.

Next year we'll probably have a completely rebuilt line.

With the way we do the OL pipeline this is impossible.  Where are these rebuild guys going to come from?  Can't afford to build half or most an OL in FA with our budgets.  As long as we have the over-ratio and no money, I would put all resources into finding IMP rookies and being open to starting them ANYWHERE, including C and either (both!) G!  Rookie IMP OL would cost basically nothing and certainly can't suck worse than we have now if we shuffle through like 15 of them to find the keeper(s)?  Unfortunately, doesn't help us this year, and will also lock is into the strange ratio we've been employing (which might suck for '26).

[TecnoGenius]

It does seem like Neufeld has been the weak link this year.

Why?  This doesn't "just happen".  Not for a Neuf-caliber guy.  He was our best remaining NAT.  You can't just say "age" because didn't Walby play until he was 85, and the much more demanding RT spot?

It must mean Neuf is dinged up.  He certainly was stout to begin the year.  On the games I graded he was certainly not the problem guy.  But I haven't checked the last 2 games yet...