Bighill done

[DM83]

Just finished watching  the replay three times. I was shocked to see on almost every defensive play Bighill was no where to be seen.  In the box he was certainly not a run stuffer. Most plays he was pushed around and was the last man to arrive at the pile

Anyone else notice it?  We now also need a middle linebacker.

[ModAdmin]

Isolating a player when virtually the entire team has been struggling is an exercise in futility.  Bighill has been recovering from an injury as well.

Give it a rest and see what the next few weeks bring.

[Tecno]

Anyone else notice it?  We now also need a middle linebacker.

Biggie was making plays in week 1 & 2.  You didn't see him much in week 3 because VAJ is a gunslinger.  It's not Biggie's job to be 60Y downfield.

If you want to point out a guy who is never on the scene, why not talk about Alexander?  The only FS in the league who is never in the picture on a 60Y explosion.

Biggie is also very cap friendly.  He's probably the most affordable vet MLB in the league.

Out of everything wrong with our D, Biggie is literally the last thing to worry about.  If you see specific plays he's costing us bigtime, mark the Q & clock and post them here and we can all take a look.  It's often hard to see if a specific single player is botching things if you're not focusing on him.

Just my 2c.

[Blue In BC]

lol
If you are not focusing on him how can you defend him
Ok Mr. mod print up how many tackles was Biggie in on, and the number if knockdowns
When the opponent averages 6 yards a run, I would say  ain't no Lime backers around. But ok I am wrong.

Hard to knock down a pass near the LOS when Adams is throwing 30 yards downfield.

[dd]

He's lost a step for sure, but done, no. There's a lot wrong with our defense, starting with our pass rush. Biggie brings much needed leadership to a young group that needs just that.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

I hate to agree with the negative nellies but if he's not done he's only a few feet from the finish line.

He's lost a few steps at this point and sometimes makes up for it with superior vision but it's not always possible.

Shouldn't have started in the Grey Cup last year and he hasn't been very effective this year.

Bighill in his prime dominated games. He literally took over for whole series. It was awesome. A premiere talent ( one of the best MLBs to wear blue and gold) that I am sure all Bombers fans are glad to have seen but father time is undefeated.

[ModAdmin]

It would be grossly unfair to to say AB04 is "done" as DM83 suggests.  The D has gone through, and continues to go through, more changes than usual this year with veterans moving on plus several injuries.  Those facts are going to impact the defence as a whole and Bighill in particular.

[Pigskin]

Biggie was making plays in week 1 & 2.  You didn't see him much in week 3 because VAJ is a gunslinger.  It's not Biggie's job to be 60Y downfield.

If you want to point out a guy who is never on the scene, why not talk about Alexander?  The only FS in the league who is never in the picture on a 60Y explosion.

Biggie is also very cap friendly.  He's probably the most affordable vet MLB in the league.

Out of everything wrong with our D, Biggie is literally the last thing to worry about.  If you see specific plays he's costing us bigtime, mark the Q & clock and post them here and we can all take a look.  It's often hard to see if a specific single player is botching things if you're not focusing on him.

Just my 2c.

He didn't play in week one.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

It would be grossly unfair to to say AB04 is "done" as DM83 suggests.  The D has gone through, and continues to go through, more changes than usual this year with veterans moving on plus several injuries.  Those facts are going to impact the defence as a whole and Bighill in particular.

Kind of a rude way to describe it but I don't think it's far off the mark, unfortunately. The guy deserves a hero's send off and maybe a ring of honour spot someday but he's only going to get more banged up as the season goes on. He's not the same guy he was (this was pretty obvious last year, to my eye) so it's not so much the 0-3 start as it is being an almost 36 year old middle linebacker on a 65 yard wide field.

[ModAdmin]

Kind of a rude way to describe it but I don't think it's far off the mark, unfortunately. The guy deserves a hero's send off and maybe a ring of honour spot someday but he's only going to get more banged up as the season goes on. He's not the same guy he was (this was pretty obvious last year, to my eye) so it's not so much the 0-3 start as it is being an almost 36 year old middle linebacker on a 65 yard wide field.

Logic would suggest he is not at the same level he was with the Lions and his early time with the Bombers.  But words are important and DM83's description does not take into account some of the other factors too.  That was my point.

[dd]

I have been the biggest critic for the bombers not picking up Darnell Sankey when they had the chance and make the transition from old to young st mlb and do the same painful thing we did with Harris as we did with Brady, but the bombers didn't pull the trigger and we ve paid for it ever since. That said, looks like the brass has said we re going with him this season, slow and all, not much we can do but painfully watch. I think he still brings leadership but his play is no where near what it was or where it needs to be. It's sad when players hang on too long.

[Blueforlife]

Biggie will have ups and downs.  To suggest he is done is wrong and disrespectful imo.  Discussing his stats, longevity, speed, etc. Is fair game but let's not pile on a guy when his team is struggling, the defense has new faces, is injuried and we have new schemes.  Give it time.  Too early to suggest he is done imo.  I have seen some impact plays from him and was surprised at his speed the previous game to BC.  An aging vet at the tail end of a outstanding career.  Near the end of his career, yes.  Done, no imo.  Just like the crowd that was critical of Harris when he got hurt for us and came back and dominated, my guess is this thread will age poorly.  Mind you, I was extremely confident in Harris at the end of his career.  I'm moderately confident that Biggie can still be a star. 

[Tecno]

I have been the biggest critic for the bombers not picking up Darnell Sankey when they had the chance and make the transition from old to young st mlb and do the same painful thing we did with Harris as we did with Brady, but the bombers didn't pull the trigger and we ve paid for it ever since.

Sankey probably costs $50k more than Biggie (or more!).  Forget about SMS situation last year, this season we simply could not afford Sankey.  Biggie is the best cap-friendly vet MLB, and continuously takes pay cuts to help the team and extend his career.

If we wanted Sankey we would have had to sacrifice one of the huge O names... which one do you give up?

And once again, we're still doing pretty well against the run!  Ya, Stanback had a big average, but it was still way less than 10 and we weren't giving up explosion runs.  I still think our MLB/WILL are the least of our concerns.

Everyone better pray Biggie stays upright all season because if he doesn't it's not a Sankey we'll be fielding, it'll be a Gauthier or Hurl or something and then we'll be getting torched on deep passes and the run!

[Tecno]

Well leadership might be needed for a DC has to create man to man. Every play with DBs, with ten yard cushions.

Our DB corps is so bad right now I think we have to go back to 2015-2016 schemes where we play near-exclusively zone D.  Hall always said when your talent isn't good enough for man, you can't play man.  Ya, well, that's us now.

The zone-mostly of back then worked well to generate turnovers, as zone is apt to do, at the expense of always leaving some soft spots open for long drives.  It won't win you many games, but maybe we can at least stop the explosions and give ourselves something to build off of.

[Waffler]

Biggie was making plays in week 1 & 2.

He didn't play in week one. Looked ok in 2. VA made everyone look bad in 3. But I still say that is on lack of pressure.