2024 CFL Draft

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theaardvark

If you look back over the years, very few 3rd or 4th rounders make rosters.  Using a 3rd round pick on a flyer depends on the quality of the player, the chance that they eventually come north, and what the team's immediate need level for Nats is.

We are deeep at Nats, and any new roster player is going to mean a good roster player is going to find the door...

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Blue In BC

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Quote from: theaardvark on April 28, 2024, 08:19:27 PMIf you look back over the years, very few 3rd or 4th rounders make rosters.  Using a 3rd round pick on a flyer depends on the quality of the player, the chance that they eventually come north, and what the team's immediate need level for Nats is.

We are deeep at Nats, and any new roster player is going to mean a good roster player is going to find the door...



You better check our roster again and see that we have several that were picked much later than the 3 - 4 round.

Nick Hallett was picked in the 7th round.

Tanner Cadwallader was picked in the 7th round.

Shayne Gauthier picked in the 4th round.

Chris Kolankowski picked in the 6th round by the Argos.

Max Charbonneau picked in the 8th round

Bret MacDougall picked in the 6th round.

Pat Neufled picked in the 5th round by the Riders

Jake Thomas picked in the 4th round.

Drew Wolitarsky was selected in the supplemental draft giving up a 3rd round pick. That's why they have 8 rounds. :)

You can't build a roster with only 1st and 2nd round picks.

Why let the facts get in the way of a good story? lol
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theaardvark

We draft really well.  I was talking in general. 
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on April 28, 2024, 09:31:59 PMWe draft really well.  I was talking in general. 

Which is why the Bombers shouldn't do that with their 3rd round pick.  As I said, you can't build a roster with only 1st and 2nd round picks.
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Blue In BC

Anyone want to make a new prediction of who the Bombers draft with their 1st 3 picks based on the impact of the NFL activities of drafts and UFA signings etc?

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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on April 29, 2024, 05:27:42 PMAnyone want to make a new prediction of who the Bombers draft with their 1st 3 picks based on the impact of the NFL activities of drafts and UFA signings etc?




1 - Best Olineman, regardless status
2 - BPA CFL ready.
3 - BPA
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on April 29, 2024, 05:51:56 PM1 - Best Olineman, regardless status
2 - BPA CFL ready.
3 - BPA

Not sure what you meant for item 1 regardless of status? Do you mean drafting an OL that was drafted by the NFL?

In any case I was looking for actual names not position. A new mock draft for the Bombers.
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theaardvark

So, the top three prospects and 8th went in the NFL draft:

1 Isaiah Adams OL 3rd round 71st Arizona
2 Theo Johnson TE 4th round 107th Giants
3 Tanner McLachlan TE 6th round 194th Bengals
8 Giovanni Manu OL 4th round 126th Lions

Sorry, but we pick to far down to even guess who might be available, but here it goes. 

1 - 10 of the top 16 prospects are OL, so one of them would be the first pick. Not sure if any other team would pick Adams knowing he's off to the NFL as a 3rd rounder, but I'd pick him.  How's that?

2 - No Manitoba boys in the top 20 prospects, I was looking at Dan Okpoko DL from San Diego State as a DL prospect, but hate to be Labatte'd. 

3 - If Kevin Mital drops to this point, getting a highly ranked WR would be nice...
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dizzycamper

Quote from: Blue In BC on April 29, 2024, 05:27:42 PMAnyone want to make a new prediction of who the Bombers draft with their 1st 3 picks based on the impact of the NFL activities of drafts and UFA signings etc?



In my opinion the greatest need is DL, so @ eight (1st to 3rd choice): Okpoke, Brubacher or Hergott.

Pick 17 a O-Lineman: Mueller, Nkanu or Bosse
Pick 20 a Receiver: Duncan-Busby

Blue In BC

Quote from: dizzycamper on April 29, 2024, 09:36:21 PMIn my opinion the greatest need is DL, so @ eight (1st to 3rd choice): Okpoke, Brubacher or Hergott.

Pick 17 a O-Lineman: Mueller, Nkanu or Bosse
Pick 20 a Receiver: Duncan-Busby

There might be some of the top 20 left by the time we pick. Only 10 have no current NFL deals of any sort although 2 or 3 might still be selected in the CFL draft.

Some teams will choose players outside of the ranking or at different pick numbers. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

You listed a couple of players outside the top 20 which is understandable. You also listed a couple inside the top 20 which might be available to us with our 1st pick. Hard to say who is available for round 2.

We might still see more Canadians get invited to mini camps today or early tomorrow. Moving targets. :)
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dizzycamper

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Quote from: Blue In BC on April 29, 2024, 10:48:31 PMThere might be some of the top 20 left by the time we pick. Only 10 have no current NFL deals of any sort although 2 or 3 might still be selected in the CFL draft.

Some teams will choose players outside of the ranking or at different pick numbers. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

You listed a couple of players outside the top 20 which is understandable. You also listed a couple inside the top 20 which might be available to us with our 1st pick. Hard to say who is available for round 2.

We might still see more Canadians get invited to mini camps today or early tomorrow. Moving targets. :)

As I mentioned the other day, four (4) of the twenty (20) top 20 list, I wouldn't expect in the CFL.

Those that have received rookie free agent deals, I'd say two (2) or three (3) will be gone for a while, and probably not if they attain a NFL roster spot year after year. In my ciphering world, that is now six (6) - seven (7) of the top 20, leaving 13 to 14 for the CFL draft.

With Bombers picking at eight (8), that leaves us with four (4) or Five (5) potential prospects from the top 20 list. Slim pickings, with a certain amount of risk picking. This is the problem with success and really picking in a draft that wasn't that great for the Bombers last year.

Yes, I still believe that the Bombers should pick a D-Line @ 8, an O-Lineman and a Receiver @ 17 and 20. I also believe they should look at another O-Linemen and Linebacker before their last pick in the 5th round, pic 46.

Just my thoughts... Enjoy the draft tomorrow, everyone.


TecnoGenius

Quote from: dizzycamper on April 30, 2024, 12:55:45 AMYes, I still believe that the Bombers should pick a D-Line @ 8, an O-Lineman and a Receiver @ 17 and 20. I also believe they should look at another O-Linemen and Linebacker before their last pick in the 5th round, pic 46.

No way we pick DL at 8.  Our NAT OL cupboard is basically bare.  Dobson in for Gray and Eli as 6th/TE.  That leaves not only zero extra dressed NAT OL, it leaves zero ZERO extra rostered NAT OL!  Not to mention we may not have any answers at RT... it would have been nice to have a guy like Gray in the hopper who could, in a disaster pinch, also play RT.

OL is a huge risk for us going into week 1.  I wouldn't be surprised if we pick OLs in our 1st 2 picks.  A NAT DL is just gravy, and you don't reach for the gravy until you're sure you've secured your potatoes.
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dizzycamper

Quote from: TecnoGenius on April 30, 2024, 02:49:43 AMNo way we pick DL at 8.  Our NAT OL cupboard is basically bare.  Dobson in for Gray and Eli as 6th/TE.  That leaves not only zero extra dressed NAT OL, it leaves zero ZERO extra rostered NAT OL!  Not to mention we may not have any answers at RT... it would have been nice to have a guy like Gray in the hopper who could, in a disaster pinch, also play RT.

OL is a huge risk for us going into week 1.  I wouldn't be surprised if we pick OLs in our 1st 2 picks.  A NAT DL is just gravy, and you don't reach for the gravy until you're sure you've secured your potatoes.

We will see tomorrow.

I don't disagree with you, as I've got a couple mocks here, one definitely has 2 OL picked with our first 3 picks.

I will differ with you as there is a need on the D-Line for me. One of these prospects is a "fit" on rotation as the season progresses and should be taken. Will not be available at 17 or 20.

Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on April 30, 2024, 02:49:43 AMNo way we pick DL at 8.  Our NAT OL cupboard is basically bare.  Dobson in for Gray and Eli as 6th/TE.  That leaves not only zero extra dressed NAT OL, it leaves zero ZERO extra rostered NAT OL!  Not to mention we may not have any answers at RT... it would have been nice to have a guy like Gray in the hopper who could, in a disaster pinch, also play RT.

OL is a huge risk for us going into week 1.  I wouldn't be surprised if we pick OLs in our 1st 2 picks.  A NAT DL is just gravy, and you don't reach for the gravy until you're sure you've secured your potatoes.

Our current ratio could allow a change to 3 import OL in the short term. That may mean 1 or more of the imports that end up on the PR could be injury replacements.

Obviously we'll draft an OL. The question is whether he's a better immediate replacement if an injury happens. Ratio may mean he goes on the AR and gets some reps as the season progresses.

We have been keeping 7 OL on the AR. Losing Gray changes that at the moment.
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dizzycamper

Quote from: Blue In BC on April 30, 2024, 01:15:09 PMOur current ratio could allow a change to 3 import OL in the short term. That may mean 1 or more of the imports that end up on the PR could be injury replacements.

Obviously we'll draft an OL. The question is whether he's a better immediate replacement if an injury happens. Ratio may mean he goes on the AR and gets some reps as the season progresses.

We have been keeping 7 OL on the AR. Losing Gray changes that at the moment.

I still wonder if Geoff Gray is gone, this has been very quiet. Last game of last season when the Bombers had wrapped up first, a portion of the game, the O-Line lined up with Gray at right tackle and Dobson @ guard. Just my observation and question.

I understand all the salary stuff that has been happening this past year and prior. As of late it has been announced the Bombers were over the salary cap, the signings leading up to the Feb free agents was slow/stressful, the release of some popular/needed players, players taking a cut in their salaries in the past and on.

Now, will there be a couple signings here shortly. The immediate need for O-Line and D-Line is there. Geoff Gray and Jonathan Kongbo would help.

In closing, the Bombers will do what is best/available for the team with today's draft.