DL Solutions

Started by Jesse, February 17, 2024, 04:01:30 PM

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blue_or_die

I'm less worried about the DTs since we've been playing with plug and play non-stars up the middle  for a number of years now and they can get the job done for all intents and purposes. I'm less confident in replacing someone with Jeffcoat's production and ability to let Willie be Willie. Sometimes you just have to cross your fingers and hope the Scouts can unearth the next great one at that position. It's the risk we take when we allocate our finite resources to other areas
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Pete

Quote from: Jesse on February 22, 2024, 02:10:12 PMI just don't understand how people can legitimately make this claim when we had the best defense in the league last season.
Our defensive line isn't the same. If its not legitimate then other than the elks who are we better than?
Again im talking about the position group not the overall defense.

Jesse

Quote from: Pete on February 22, 2024, 03:03:49 PMOur defensive line isn't the same. If its not legitimate then other than the elks who are we better than?
Again im talking about the position group not the overall defense.

I understand you are talking about position groups, but I think it's unrealistic to say that the best defense in the league has the worst DL and a mid-tier LB group. It doesn't make sense. You are either undervaluing us or over valuing the rest of the league.
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Pete

Quote from: Jesse on February 22, 2024, 04:28:29 PMI understand you are talking about position groups, but I think it's unrealistic to say that the best defense in the league has the worst DL and a mid-tier LB group. It doesn't make sense. You are either undervaluing us or over valuing the rest of the league.
perhaps, but last year isnt this year. I may be overvaluing Jeffcoat and Walkers absence, we'll have to see. In listening to Bighills interview talking about jackson, he talks about his contribution.
https://winnipegsun.com/sports/football/cfl/winnipeg-bluebombers/bighill-thrilled-bombers-were-able-to-sign-big-names-devastated-for-players-let-go

LXTSN

Quote from: Pigskin on February 22, 2024, 02:11:25 PMActually, Miles Fox has played in 5 games in the CFL. In Winnipeg he has played in two games, and made 3DTs, and 1 sack. Not enough to say he can replace Walker, but he works hard in practice and seems to have an upside.
I do recall that. For some reason it doesn't show any games played on the CFL site for Fox...
The CFL really needs to fix their stats problems of last year!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: LXTSN on February 22, 2024, 06:15:51 PMI do recall that. For some reason it doesn't show any games played on the CFL site for Fox...
The CFL really needs to fix their stats problems of last year!

https://www.bluebombers.com/players/miles-fox-2/167155/

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Thorough interview with Jeffcoat by Coach Phil, discusses his entire career up until the day he decided to retire.


LXTSN

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 22, 2024, 06:26:05 PMhttps://www.bluebombers.com/players/miles-fox-2/167155/
Nice. So the 3 tackles and a sack were all in the last game of the season where they let him start.
On pace for 54 tackles and 18 sacks  ;)

theaardvark

We have never has an issue finding DT's.  DE's, there should be development in our present roster, as well as draft choices.  I really think that the DLine is not an issue, and Ritchie Hall and Willie Jefferson are still here to whip them into shape.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on February 22, 2024, 04:28:29 PMI understand you are talking about position groups, but I think it's unrealistic to say that the best defense in the league has the worst DL and a mid-tier LB group. It doesn't make sense. You are either undervaluing us or over valuing the rest of the league.

Again, I think when you compare DL and LB corps to '19 and '21 then it's pretty easy to say we've lost a few steps.  I'm not even looking at the stats.  We can all just feel that the DL has been trending down slowly but surely (but still good!), and the LB corps also as they age out and we spent time getting Kramdi up to speed.  Wilson had a down year, Biggie improved overall but got slower.

The problem is we were spoiled for so long, that even middling or top-third D unit performance feels depressing.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blueforlife on February 22, 2024, 07:18:56 PMSign this guy, will come cheap I assume

I remember the Simmons guy's name being called a bit, but not much.  Didn't realize he disappeared for a year.

KW said that the door is open to any player willing to sign for ELC!  So you never know.  Might be a good fit for depth.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 22, 2024, 07:27:30 PMI remember the Simmons guy's name being called a bit, but not much.  Didn't realize he disappeared for a year.

KW said that the door is open to any player willing to sign for ELC!  So you never know.  Might be a good fit for depth.
Don't know much other than it wouldn't hurt to try him

Pigskin

Simmons: 6'3", 250, 3 years CFL experience. 32 Games, 68 tackles, 6 sacks, 1 FF.

$$$$ is the question. What does he want, and what do we have to spend.
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Horseman

Simmons sounds like a player we should bring in for TC, hope we get him.