Streveler signed to one year deal - updated topic

Started by Norm W, January 12, 2024, 06:10:12 PM

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LXTSN

Quote from: Jesse on January 21, 2024, 04:44:06 PMI don't care. We're not trying to sign him to be our starter.
The problem would be the cost.
QB1 - Most costly in the league
QB2 - Searching for a replacement that has experience that can just plug and play (probably will cost more than most backups)
SYQB - How much is there left to spend to use Streveler as a short yardage QB?
I know that Streveler will do more than what most SYQB's do, but how much more? We will have a package for him to run the option, and that has proven to be effective. Plus, he would add a fire to our whole team and fanbase whenever he hits the turf.
The question is, how much is that worth to us, and how much do we have available?

theaardvark

Quote from: LXTSN on January 22, 2024, 02:31:44 PMThe problem would be the cost.
QB1 - Most costly in the league
QB2 - Searching for a replacement that has experience that can just plug and play (probably will cost more than most backups)
SYQB - How much is there left to spend to use Streveler as a short yardage QB?
I know that Streveler will do more than what most SYQB's do, but how much more? We will have a package for him to run the option, and that has proven to be effective. Plus, he would add a fire to our whole team and fanbase whenever he hits the turf.
The question is, how much is that worth to us, and how much do we have available?

We know what QB1 costs, and that another of the 3 will be on an ELC.  So what the budget is for the 3rd QB in the room is going to be a very easily defined number, based on our budget for the QB position.

Other than Streveler or Prukop, I don't see us investing in a premium cost "CFL experienced" QB, unless they come on the very, very cheap. 
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Quote from: theaardvark on January 22, 2024, 06:38:40 PMWe know what QB1 costs, and that another of the 3 will be on an ELC.  So what the budget is for the 3rd QB in the room is going to be a very easily defined number, based on our budget for the QB position.

Other than Streveler or Prukop, I don't see us investing in a premium cost "CFL experienced" QB, unless they come on the very, very cheap. 

Here is the list of remaining QB's available in FA, other than Schiltz none can demand a significant pay increase.

Nick Arbuckle, Ottawa Redblacks (A)
Dominique Davis, B.C. Lions (A)
Jake Dolegala, Saskatchewan Roughriders (A)
Mason Fine, Saskatchewan Roughriders (A)
Kai Locksley, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (A)
Dakota Prukop, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (A)
Matthew Shiltz, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (A)

If they can't afford Strev. I would roll with Prukop for convenience sake, or wait until Ottawa is forced to cut one of their young QB's, don't see them cutting Crum unfortunately.  Wildcard is Cornelius, surprised someone hasn't already picked him up, he might be a good fit in Calgary.

theaardvark

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 22, 2024, 06:51:10 PMHere is the list of remaining QB's available in FA, other than Schiltz none can demand a significant pay increase.

Nick Arbuckle, Ottawa Redblacks (A)
Dominique Davis, B.C. Lions (A)
Jake Dolegala, Saskatchewan Roughriders (A)
Mason Fine, Saskatchewan Roughriders (A)
Kai Locksley, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (A)
Dakota Prukop, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (A)
Matthew Shiltz, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (A)

If they can't afford Strev. I would roll with Prukop for convenience sake, or wait until Ottawa is forced to cut one of their young QB's, don't see them cutting Crum unfortunately.  Wildcard is Cornelius, surprised someone hasn't already picked him up, he might be a good fit in Calgary.

Other than Prukop, no one on that list (including Corny) interests me in the least.  They will all want/get significantly more than an ELC.  Shiltz still has a little upside, and might get an in-season injury phone call, but with what most teams are paying their starters, not sure what the market is for these tier two never made its is.  Might be a few teams that wil take a flyer on them to back up older/cheaper/injury prone QB's, which again takes them out of the price point we'd be looking for.

Prukop will possibly test the FA market, or even the new spring league, but I fully expect him back in camp, with Collaros, Prukop and one of the young guns we've signed entering the season.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: theaardvark on January 22, 2024, 08:30:45 PMOther than Prukop, no one on that list (including Corny) interests me in the least.  They will all want/get significantly more than an ELC.  Shiltz still has a little upside, and might get an in-season injury phone call, but with what most teams are paying their starters, not sure what the market is for these tier two never made its is.  Might be a few teams that wil take a flyer on them to back up older/cheaper/injury prone QB's, which again takes them out of the price point we'd be looking for.

Prukop will possibly test the FA market, or even the new spring league, but I fully expect him back in camp, with Collaros, Prukop and one of the young guns we've signed entering the season.

Last seasons "young gun" was Pigrome, who you've already written off before he's had the chance to play significant snaps in a single game.  How many years did it take Vernon Adams to emerge as a competent QB?

dd

Not surprised nobody has picked up Cornelius, he s brutal

Waffler

Quote from: dd on January 22, 2024, 10:27:21 PMNot surprised nobody has picked up Cornelius, he s brutal
He's competent at 3rd down. Jones already paid him 100k this year so maybe he'd come cheap enough for that?
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on January 22, 2024, 10:27:21 PMNot surprised nobody has picked up Cornelius, he s brutal

I wouldn't write him off yet, he's got the size and all the physical skills you could ever hope for, plus he did beat Dru Brown out for the starting job at OSU. So he might be a viable reclamation project in a good system.

theaardvark

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 22, 2024, 10:11:51 PMLast seasons "young gun" was Pigrome, who you've already written off before he's had the chance to play significant snaps in a single game.  How many years did it take Vernon Adams to emerge as a competent QB?

How long did it take Anthony Cavillo to emerge?  Are we suggesting Pigrome is the next AC?

We bring in as many QB's as is possible to see how they adapt to the game.  Piggy had a couple exciting moments, but hasn't inspired much confidence in his play.  Certainly not more than Dru, and no where near as proven an entity as Prukop.

We have had a plethora of Piggies over the years, and the occasional Dru.  It doesn't take a long time to rule one out... but a little longer to judge one worthy of investing in.

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LXTSN

Quote from: theaardvark on January 23, 2024, 04:24:34 AMHow long did it take Anthony Cavillo to emerge?  Are we suggesting Pigrome is the next AC?

We bring in as many QB's as is possible to see how they adapt to the game.  Piggy had a couple exciting moments, but hasn't inspired much confidence in his play.  Certainly not more than Dru, and no where near as proven an entity as Prukop.

We have had a plethora of Piggies over the years, and the occasional Dru.  It doesn't take a long time to rule one out... but a little longer to judge one worthy of investing in.


That's really bad reasoning on your part.
Obviously nobody is trying to say we threw away the next AC!
I don't think it's unreasonable though to say Pigrome provided a spark that (as Bomber fans) we haven't seen from a prospect for a while. I have to go back to Goltz which I realize is not the best example for my argument.
Every other team seems to be able to scout/recruit their QB's but we have such a hard time. Aside from Chris Streveler (who never was our full time starter), it's been a long time since we had a competent QB prospect. That's why I think most Bomber fans got pretty excited about Pigrome in the pre-season.
Just stop trying to yuck my yum.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 22, 2024, 06:51:10 PMHere is the list of remaining QB's available in FA, other than Schiltz none can demand a significant pay increase.

Nick Arbuckle, Ottawa Redblacks (A)
Dominique Davis, B.C. Lions (A)
Jake Dolegala, Saskatchewan Roughriders (A)
Mason Fine, Saskatchewan Roughriders (A)
Kai Locksley, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (A)
Dakota Prukop, Winnipeg Blue Bombers (A)
Matthew Shiltz, Hamilton Tiger-Cats (A)

If they can't afford Strev. I would roll with Prukop for convenience sake, or wait until Ottawa is forced to cut one of their young QB's, don't see them cutting Crum unfortunately.  Wildcard is Cornelius, surprised someone hasn't already picked him up, he might be a good fit in Calgary.

Can take Mason Fine off the FA list, Riders just re-signed him.

https://www.riderville.com/2024/01/23/two-more-years-for-quarterback-mason-fine/

dd


BLUEBOMBER

Streveler will sell tickets but he is definitely not a threat in the air.