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TBURGESS

Brown will make more than Adams.  ??? Ottawa is over paying IMO. 
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VictorRomano

A two year deal means he'll be a FA at the end of 2025...same time that Zach's newest (final?) contract expires......

I said before, he's going to get 2 years of seasoning in another system, and we'll pick him back up later if he turns out to be any good....

Jesse

Quote from: TBURGESS on January 24, 2024, 04:39:30 PMBrown will make more than Adams.  ??? Ottawa is over paying IMO.

He'll make about the same as Adams did last year and you're not going to sign a starting QB for less.

I'm sure Adams is going to get a significant bump his next contract anyway.
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Quote from: TBURGESS on January 24, 2024, 04:39:30 PMBrown will make more than Adams.  ??? Ottawa is over paying IMO.

They are getting him for better than market rate for a starter, if that is what he turns out to be.  And he got far more than we could afford to offer, plus the chance to start right out of camp. 

Jones paid more for Corny, with guaranteed money to boot.

I don't think anyone here questions Dru's potential to start, Ott gets a team friendly deal in year two if he makes it as a starter, but has the option to cut him at anytime if he flames out.  I don't see mention of any signing bonuses or roster bonuses, or guaranteed money...

I think it is a fair contract, and that his next one will be much larger.

Unless he's the next Drew Willy...
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Quote from: theaardvark on January 24, 2024, 05:29:32 PMThey are getting him for better than market rate for a starter, if that is what he turns out to be.  And he got far more than we could afford to offer, plus the chance to start right out of camp. 

Jones paid more for Corny, with guaranteed money to boot.

I don't think anyone here questions Dru's potential to start, Ott gets a team friendly deal in year two if he makes it as a starter, but has the option to cut him at anytime if he flames out.  I don't see mention of any signing bonuses or roster bonuses, or guaranteed money...

I think it is a fair contract, and that his next one will be much larger.

Unless he's the next Drew Willy...

Signing bonus of $137,500

Masoli and Adams probably start the season on the 6 game IR. I'm guessing Arbuckle is not re-signed. However one of their other QB's might not survive the numbers game and might be some one we take a look at in TC if he gets cut.
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TBURGESS

Quote from: theaardvark on January 24, 2024, 05:29:32 PMThey are getting him for better than market rate for a starter, if that is what he turns out to be.  And he got far more than we could afford to offer, plus the chance to start right out of camp. 

Jones paid more for Corny, with guaranteed money to boot.

I don't think anyone here questions Dru's potential to start, Ott gets a team friendly deal in year two if he makes it as a starter, but has the option to cut him at anytime if he flames out.  I don't see mention of any signing bonuses or roster bonuses, or guaranteed money...

I think it is a fair contract, and that his next one will be much larger.

Unless he's the next Drew Willy...
They are paying him above market rate for a 'possible' starter. It's a Dru friendly, not a team friendly contract. 
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TBURGESS on January 24, 2024, 06:28:48 PMThey are paying him above market rate for a 'possible' starter. It's a Dru friendly, not a team friendly contract.

So you're proposing both sides negotiate a contract as if the worst possible outcome is the likely result of their union, instead of the best? 

theaardvark

Quote from: TBURGESS on January 24, 2024, 06:28:48 PMThey are paying him above market rate for a 'possible' starter. It's a Dru friendly, not a team friendly contract.

If he plays up to his potential and is a starter, its a team friendly contract. 

If he flames out and they cut him when Masoli gets healthy, he gets to keep his signing bonus (info not available at the time of my post), then that's a Dru friendly contract.

If he is a m'eh starter, and plays well enough for tehm to let him play, its still a team friendly contract, one of the cheapest starters deals in the league.

Its a good deal for both, really, and allows OTT to afford to pay extra for backups, which will not include Arbuckle.
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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 24, 2024, 06:44:37 PMSo you're proposing both sides negotiate a contract as if the worst possible outcome is the likely result of their union, instead of the best? 
Nope. I'm saying that paying a guy for something he's clearly never done, is a huge risk. Brown could Arbuckle. When was the last time that paying a young QB based on potential worked out?  My guess is Mike Reilly to the Esks back in 2013, before that ???

My guess on top QB contracts:

Collaros, Kelly, Harris, Fajardo, MBT, Maier, Brown. (One of these QB's is not like the others) Assuming that Harris and BLM still have their injury issues, that makes Brown the 5th highest paid starting QB in the league & he has almost no experience.
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Jesse

Quote from: TBURGESS on January 24, 2024, 07:02:38 PMNope. I'm saying that paying a guy for something he's clearly never done, is a huge risk. Brown could Arbuckle. When was the last time that paying a young QB based on potential worked out?  My guess is Mike Reilly to the Esks back in 2013, before that ???

My guess on top QB contracts:

Collaros, Kelly, Harris, Fajardo, MBT, Maier, Brown. (One of these QB's is not like the others) Assuming that Harris and BLM still have their injury issues, that makes Brown the 5th highest paid starting QB in the league & he has almost no experience.

Tier 1 (600+): Collaros, Kelly
Tier 2 (500+): Harris
Tier 3 (400+): Meier, MBT, Fajardo
Tier 4 (300+): Adams, Brown

The only QB who MIGHT make less than Brown is whoever ends up starting for Hamilton. Because Bo restructured his contract, since last year he was in the 500+ category. And Adams' deal was negotiated prior to his breakout, so he might get a bump too.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on January 24, 2024, 06:11:42 PMSigning bonus of $137,500

Masoli and Adams probably start the season on the 6 game IR. I'm guessing Arbuckle is not re-signed. However one of their other QB's might not survive the numbers game and might be some one we take a look at in TC if he gets cut.

Doubt the RB's cut either before TC, more likely happens when Masoli returns in July or Aug.  Bombers will make their decision after TC and more than likely stick with it through the rest of the season, as long as things are going well.  Wouldn't surprise me if they stick with Prukop as #2 with a rookie behind him, if they can't sign Strev.

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 24, 2024, 08:47:41 PMWouldn't surprise me if they stick with Prukop as #2 with a rookie behind him, if they can't sign Strev.

We would be in serious trouble with Prukop starting or playing as a #2 sometimes will. He would easily be the worst starter in the league, if it came to that. He has incredible arm strength but is just not accurate enough. Even Corny is better and I don't think much of him.
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Quote from: Waffler on January 24, 2024, 11:01:40 PMWe would be in serious trouble with Prukop starting or playing as a #2 sometimes will. He would easily be the worst starter in the league, if it came to that. He has incredible arm strength but is just not accurate enough. Even Corny is better and I don't think much of him.
I don't think much of Corny either but at least Prukop can scramble and run and pose a running threat. Maier in Calgary isn't #1 material either. Prukop is on par with anything starting in Hamilton, it wouldn't be the end of the world, heck we lived through worse than him

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Quote from: dd on January 25, 2024, 12:03:27 AMI don't think much of Corny either but at least Prukop can scramble and run and pose a running threat. Maier in Calgary isn't #1 material either. Prukop is on par with anything starting in Hamilton, it wouldn't be the end of the world, heck we lived through worse than him

Exactly, in 2021 Sean McGuire was the #2 backup.  Luckily Zach has never gone down for an extended period since he joined the team in late 2019.