Blue Bombers add defensive end to roster & Jeffcoat retiring

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What's noteworthy is 2023 was Jeffcoat's healthiest season (14 GP) since his rookie season in 2017 (16 GP).
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I'm 4 games in to my rewatch of 2023, and I wanted to note that Haba actually was looking good and making plays.  I had forgotten about that as he was getting dissed later in the season when we all wanted Jeffcoat back and comparing the DL with/without Jeffcoat.

I'm not sure Haba will ever be a Jeffcoat, but maybe we'll get lucky and he'll be good enough to still allow Willie to do his thing?

Also lost in all of this Hansen: maybe he becomes a bit more critical in FA at this juncture?  He didn't do squat after his return in 2023, but he may have still been recovering.  If he still gets a bigger-than-normal-GLOB salary in '24, perhaps we simply can't afford it?  Still, it's nice to use up a free-bingo GLOB spot at a position we'll be struggling at (DE).

Ignoring our DE desperation for a moment, for my money I'm keeping/dressing Maruo over Hansen.  What we do a P will determine our options on the 2nd GLOB.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 12, 2024, 10:23:01 PMI'm 4 games in to my rewatch of 2023, and I wanted to note that Haba actually was looking good and making plays.  I had forgotten about that as he was getting dissed later in the season when we all wanted Jeffcoat back and comparing the DL with/without Jeffcoat.

I'm not sure Haba will ever be a Jeffcoat, but maybe we'll get lucky and he'll be good enough to still allow Willie to do his thing?

Also lost in all of this Hansen: maybe he becomes a bit more critical in FA at this juncture?  He didn't do squat after his return in 2023, but he may have still been recovering.  If he still gets a bigger-than-normal-GLOB salary in '24, perhaps we simply can't afford it?  Still, it's nice to use up a free-bingo GLOB spot at a position we'll be struggling at (DE).

Ignoring our DE desperation for a moment, for my money I'm keeping/dressing Maruo over Hansen.  What we do a P will determine our options on the 2nd GLOB.

I'm guessing we don't re-sign Hansen or we would have done it by now? Maruo is not longer on the roster. I wonder why they made that move to PR to end the season for him.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 12, 2024, 10:23:01 PMI'm 4 games in to my rewatch of 2023, and I wanted to note that Haba actually was looking good and making plays.  I had forgotten about that as he was getting dissed later in the season when we all wanted Jeffcoat back and comparing the DL with/without Jeffcoat.

I'm not sure Haba will ever be a Jeffcoat, but maybe we'll get lucky and he'll be good enough to still allow Willie to do his thing?

Also lost in all of this Hansen: maybe he becomes a bit more critical in FA at this juncture?  He didn't do squat after his return in 2023, but he may have still been recovering.  If he still gets a bigger-than-normal-GLOB salary in '24, perhaps we simply can't afford it?  Still, it's nice to use up a free-bingo GLOB spot at a position we'll be struggling at (DE).

Ignoring our DE desperation for a moment, for my money I'm keeping/dressing Maruo over Hansen.  What we do a P will determine our options on the 2nd GLOB.
If Im an OC scheming against Willie, I'd double team him and block headup on the rest of our D line and our pass rush goes to zero in a hurry. The key to our pass rush was BOTH Jeffcoat and Jefferson coming at the Qb hard and both demanded double teaming or you paid the price. Not so anymore.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 12, 2024, 10:30:30 PMI'm guessing we don't re-sign Hansen or we would have done it by now? Maruo is not longer on the roster. I wonder why they made that move to PR to end the season for him.

Ah, that seems to have made Maruo disappear, as he's not in the FA lists either.  I guess that answers that as to PR->disappear != FA.

Maruo was going nowhere but PR after Hansen came back.  No free GLOB AR spot.  If we ditch the Sheehan Experiment(TM) in '24 then I'd love to have Maruo back.  Double-especially if Hansen walks.  I could easily argue Maruo would have been more useful in the GC than Hansen.

Maruo did a ton of reps on D and was pretty good.  I'd say at least as good as any of our NAT MLB/WLBers.  Assuming he wants to keep playing in the CFL, I have no idea why we wouldn't sign him.  I guess he might want a small bump above GLOB ELC.  Ok.  MOS seemed to like him, too.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 13, 2024, 01:25:52 AMAh, that seems to have made Maruo disappear, as he's not in the FA lists either.  I guess that answers that as to PR->disappear != FA.

Maruo was going nowhere but PR after Hansen came back.  No free GLOB AR spot.  If we ditch the Sheehan Experiment(TM) in '24 then I'd love to have Maruo back.  Double-especially if Hansen walks.  I could easily argue Maruo would have been more useful in the GC than Hansen.

Maruo did a ton of reps on D and was pretty good.  I'd say at least as good as any of our NAT MLB/WLBers.  Assuming he wants to keep playing in the CFL, I have no idea why we wouldn't sign him.  I guess he might want a small bump above GLOB ELC.  Ok.  MOS seemed to like him, too.

I'd be interested to see Maruo return. In theory he'd still be on an ELC. Whether either we want Hansen back still seems to be a question. I'd think some effort will be made to replace Sheehan but that may not be successful.

Just a guess but we draft 3 more Global kicking specialists. I would have thought Liegghio as a punter might have been a choice but he's not a free agent now.
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Hansen wasn't interested in a global salary once he had his 2 years in, and I'm not sure the Bombers felt he earned the big increase they got him, so I would not be surprised if we've seen the last of him in the CFL.  Sad, because he was a favourite and quite the ST stud and wild on cheetah.  Not sure if it was nagging injuries that prevented him from returning to form, but whatever it was, he certainly wasn't the player that would blow things up in his first few years.
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The global draft was reduced to just 3 rounds in 2023. That's not a very deep pool and we've given up on a few we carried on our PR for a few years and last year.

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Quote from: theaardvark on February 13, 2024, 05:02:00 PMHansen wasn't interested in a global salary once he had his 2 years in, and I'm not sure the Bombers felt he earned the big increase they got him, so I would not be surprised if we've seen the last of him in the CFL.  Sad, because he was a favourite and quite the ST stud and wild on cheetah.  Not sure if it was nagging injuries that prevented him from returning to form, but whatever it was, he certainly wasn't the player that would blow things up in his first few years.

Hansen's big increase probably brought him up to minimum wage for rookies, he's been at the bottom tier of the wage scale for 3 years.

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 13, 2024, 05:47:12 PMHansen's big increase probably brought him up to minimum wage for rookies, he's been at the bottom tier of the wage scale for 3 years.

Pretty sure it was foe considerably more than min wage, I remember seeing it was min for the first year, and then a raise for the second with an additional bump to make up for not being able to pay him in year one due to the Global restriction still being in effect.
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Quote from: theaardvark on February 13, 2024, 07:48:59 PMPretty sure it was foe considerably more than min wage, I remember seeing it was min for the first year, and then a raise for the second with an additional bump to make up for not being able to pay him in year one due to the Global restriction still being in effect.


The first 3 seasons Hansen played, Global players were limited to contracts of $54k, $11k below league min. for all other first year players.  With the new CBA in 2023 Globals were bumped up to league min. of $70k, Hansen was extended on a 1-year deal in 2023 and Bombers may have upped him in the vicinity of $80k.

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Quote from: ichabod_crane on February 13, 2024, 09:06:28 PMFA tracker says Hansen signs with the Argos.

It's a good move for both.  We'll always remember him for dismembering the Ticat returner without touching him... Thanks for your service Hansen!  Good luck in TOR.

Now, since filling GLOB roster spots is mandated (not sure on the count anymore... 2 dressing? 3 total?), we'll need to keep Maruo (as one of the few who can do anything), probably Sheehan, and do we risk filling that 3rd spot with a GLOB rookie?  Or do we continue on with someone like Machino?

You know what would be really handy... a GLOB FB...
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