Bomber and CFL Player award discussion

[bwiser]

The CFL player awards will be announced soon. Heres my Bomber choices
Top O lineman- Bryant
Top defensive player-Jefferson
Top rookie-Bennett
Top Special teams-Castillo
Top Canadian-Olivera
Most outstanding-Olivera

Bombers don't have a lot of outstanding rookies this year so I went with Bennett. Olivera has the best chance of being the league rep as top Canadian. Olivera's closest rival for outstanding player may be on his own team in Colleros who I would have no problem with if he is chosen over Olivera.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

I would go:

Most Outstanding Player: Zach Collaros
Most Outstanding Defensive Player: Deatrick Nichols
Most Outstanding Canadian Player: Brady Oliveira
Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman: Chris Kolankowski
Most Outstanding Special Teams Player: Janarion Grant
Most Outstanding Rookie: Anthony Bennett

[3rdand1.5]

My 2 cents

MOP Zach-only as Bray would have no chance against Kelly
MODP Jefferson
MOC Brady
MOOL Kolakowski
MOST Grant
MOR Sheehan....slim pickings this year

[bomb squad]

My 2 cents

MOP Zach-only as Bray would have no chance against Kelly
MODP Jefferson
MOC Brady
MOOL Kolakowski
MOST Grant
MOR Sheehan....slim pickings this year

If based on strategy, I don?t think Zach beats Kelly either. May as well go with what?s merited and have Brady for both MOP and MOC.

[peg_city]

My 2 cents

MOP Zach-only as Bray would have no chance against Kelly
MODP Jefferson
MOC Brady
MOOL Kolakowski
MOST Grant
MOR Sheehan....slim pickings this year

I got this as well. But I choose Collaros over Brady outright.

[blue_gold_84]

MOP: Oliveira (gonna happily die on this hill, Collaros is a close-ish second)
MODP: Jefferson (Houston a close second)
MOC: Oliveira (honourable mention to Demski)
MOOL: Stanley (honourable mention to Kolankowski)
MOSP: Grant
MOR: Bennett (+1 on the slim pickings)

[Jesse]

MOP: Oliveira (I think Collaros will be the candidate, but Brady's my choice)
MODP: Jeffcoat
MOC: Oliveira
MOOL: Stanley
MOSP: Grant
MOR: Bennett

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Most Outstanding Player: Zach Collaros
Most Outstanding Defensive Player: Willie J. played every game with high intensity.
Most Outstanding Canadian Player: Brady Oliveira
Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman: Pat Neufeld spread the love around and acknowledge his longtime contribution.
Most Outstanding Special Teams Player: Sergio, gets the job done and hasn't failed them yet.
Most Outstanding Rookie: Damian Jackson became an integral part of Brady's success.

[Blueforlife]

Brady deserves a medal for his work this year.  He went from good to best very quickly.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Brady deserves a metal for his work this year.  He went from good to best very quickly.

What kind of metal?

[blue_gold_84]

What kind of metal?

The shiny kind.

[bwiser]

The CFL player awards will be announced soon. Heres my Bomber choices
Top O lineman- Bryant
Top defensive player-Jefferson
Top rookie-Bennett
Top Special teams-Castillo
Top Canadian-Olivera
Most outstanding-Olivera

Bombers don't have a lot of outstanding rookies this year so I went with Bennett. Olivera has the best chance of being the league rep as top Canadian. Olivera's closest rival for outstanding player may be on his own team in Colleros who I would have no problem with if he is chosen over Olivera.

I took Castillo over Grant mainly because Grant missed too much time. Grant had been outstanding when he has played.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I took Castillo over Grant mainly because Grant missed too much time. Grant had been outstanding when he has played.

Good pick, never thought of Sergio, he gets my vote too.

[theaardvark]

Top O lineman- Bryant
Top defensive player-Houston
Top rookie-Bennett
Top Special teams-Castillo
Top Canadian -Olivera
Most outstanding -Collaros


How do you pick against Bryant?  I'd like to nominate the whole line, though. 
Even with his injuried, Houson will win the INT title, and had a lot of plays made
With no real rookie starters, sure, Bennett
With no Miller, there isn't really a ST standout on a coverage side, and Castillo has had a very good year.
No doubt Brady is the most outstanding Canadain, and could vie for MOP, but I'm not sure anyone votes him for both, so almost a consolation prize
Without Collaros, we are not WDC so there's that... only a QB can beat a QB... He will win the west, Kelly takes it, though.

[blue_or_die]

Top O lineman - Bryant
Top defensive player - Holm
Top rookie - N/A
Top Special teams - Castillo
Top Canadian - Demski
Most outstanding - Oliveira

[ModAdmin]

Most Outstanding Player: Brady Oliveira
Most Outstanding Defensive Player: Willie Jefferson.
Most Outstanding Canadian Player: Brady Oliveira.
Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman: Stanley Bryant.
Most Outstanding Special Teams Player: Sergio Castillo.
Most Outstanding Rookie: Jamieson Sheahan.

[dd]

For rookie, I d go with Evan Holm.

[Blue In BC]

For rookie, I d go with Evan Holm.

He's not a rookie.

[Blueforlife]

What kind of metal?

My point is he isn't likely to win MOP so we should get him some bling to show how much we appreciate his efforts.  If he wins MOP then he can give his medal back and it can be used for next year for Holm lol.  I might such at spelling you be the judge.  More a numbers guy.

[GOLDMEMBER]

For rookie, I d go with Evan Holm.

he is right he played here last year.

[TecnoGenius]

If based on strategy, I don?t think Zach beats Kelly either. May as well go with what?s merited and have Brady for both MOP and MOC.

Yes, if you are "voting strategically" then Brady will have a better chance of beating Kelly.  So Brady gets our nod by merit and by strategy.  The league will simply not give Zach the award over feel-good, high-intensity, younger-generation, "new guy" Kelly.  But they might for Brady!  As he's also a "feel-good, high-intensity, younger-generation, new guy".

I suppose if you want a "participation trophy" type thing, then you split the award with MOC Brady, MOP Zach, but I don't like that approach.

MOD is the hardest choice... I might go for Biggie as he's had a big resurgence.  He's making plays he was having problems with the last couple of seasons.  He is slower (as in running, not twitchiness) now, but that's literally his only remaining limitation.

I'd also be fine with Nichols, Willie, Walker, Holm.  Holm might actually get it, as the "newer" guy and the fact he surprised everyone.

ST?  How about Exume?  I think he was a late pickup, but he's always in around the tackle.

[blue_gold_84]

https://www.bluebombers.com/2023/10/25/blue-bombers-announce-team-award-winners-5/

Most Outstanding Player: running back Brady Oliveira
Most Outstanding Canadian Player: running back Brady Oliveira*
Most Outstanding Defensive Player: defensive end Willie Jefferson*
Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman: right tackle Jermarcus Hardrick
Most Outstanding Special Teams Player: placekicker Sergio Castillo*
Most Outstanding Rookie: punter Jamieson Sheahan

*Indicates unanimous selection

[3rdand1.5]

https://www.cfl.ca/2023/10/25/into-the-limelight-2023-team-award-winners/

[Lincoln Locomotive]

Was a little surprised the Bombers selected Brady for MOP over Zach however it wasn't unanimous either.    He was my choice for both with no disrespect to Zach either who isn't far off from his 2022 MOP season.    My suspicion is that Chad Kelly will win MOP due to the hype he and the Argos have drawn throughout the league especially in the East.    Brady should win the MOC award hands down.     I don't see us winning any other awards though....WJ is a long shot for MOD

[3rdand1.5]

Betts and Brady out of the West for MOC may be a 50/50 call

Whichever player does get the nod should win at the league level

[ModAdmin]

Game in and game out, BO20 is head and shoulders the better player.

[bwiser]

https://www.bluebombers.com/2023/10/25/blue-bombers-announce-team-award-winners-5/

Most Outstanding Player: running back Brady Oliveira
Most Outstanding Canadian Player: running back Brady Oliveira*
Most Outstanding Defensive Player: defensive end Willie Jefferson*
Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman: right tackle Jermarcus Hardrick
Most Outstanding Special Teams Player: placekicker Sergio Castillo*
Most Outstanding Rookie: punter Jamieson Sheahan

*Indicates unanimous selectionI was a little surprised at Hardrick's getting the O lineman nod but he has played well year in and year out and would have likely been our nominee sooner if not for the outstanding career of Bryant. The rookie pickings were slim so Sheahan makes as much sense as Bennett.

[Lincoln Locomotive]

Game in and game out, BO20 is head and shoulders the better player.

Agreed....outstanding and why he was chosen by the team as their MOP over Zach....

[Blueforlife]

Brady has been a beast and consistent and deserves the award.

Great list, great team.  Win or lose these are some good players.

[Jesse]

Agreed....outstanding and why he was chosen by the team as their MOP over Zach....

There are 5 voters. Tait and MOS have been pretty clear that their votes were for Zach - so the other 3 must have been Brady fans.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Here are each teams reps.

2023 TEAM AWARD WINNERS
* Denotes a unanimous selection

MOST OUTSTANDING PLAYER

BC: Vernon Adams Jr.*
Edmonton: Tre Ford
Calgary: Reggie Begelton*
Saskatchewan: Larry Dean
Winnipeg: Brady Oliveira
Hamilton: Tim White
Toronto: Chad Kelly*
Ottawa: Devonte Williams
Montreal: Austin Mack

MOST OUTSTANDING DEFENSIVE PLAYER

BC: Mathieu Betts
Edmonton: Jake Ceresna
Calgary: Micah Awe
Saskatchewan: Larry Dean*
Winnipeg: Willie Jefferson*
Hamilton: Simoni Lawrence
Toronto: Adarius Pickett
Ottawa: Bryce Carter*
Montreal: Tyrice Beverette

MOST OUTSTANDING CANADIAN

BC: Mathieu Betts
Edmonton: Tre Ford*
Calgary: Cameron Judge*
Saskatchewan: Samuel Emilus*
Winnipeg: Brady Oliveira*
Hamilton: Stavros Katsantonis*
Toronto: Royce Metchie
Ottawa: Cleyon Laing*
Montreal: Marc-Antoine Dequoy*
MOST OUTSTANDING OFFENSIVE LINEMAN

BC: Jarell Broxton
Edmonton: Martez Ivey
Calgary: Sean McEwen
Saskatchewan: Logan Ferland
Winnipeg: Jermarcus Hardrick
Hamilton: Brandon Revenberg
Toronto: Dejon Allen
Ottawa: Jacob Ruby
Montreal: Pier-Olivier Lestage
MOST OUTSTANDING SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYER

BC: Sean Whyte*
Edmonton: Scott Hutter
Calgary: Ren? Paredes
Saskatchewan: Adam Korsak*
Winnipeg: Sergio Castillo*
Hamilton: Tyreik McAllister
Toronto: Javon Leake*
Ottawa: Brandin Dandridge
Montreal: Joseph Zema

MOST OUTSTANDING ROOKIE

BC: Ryder Varga*
Edmonton: Kai Gray
Calgary: Clark Barnes
Saskatchewan: Adam Korsak*
Winnipeg: Jamieson Sheahan
Hamilton: Taylor Powell
Toronto: Qwan?tez Stiggers*
Ottawa: Dustin Crum*
Montreal: Reggie Stubblefield

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

In the DIRTBAG OF THE YEAR category the final contestants are:

Micah Awe and Simoni Lawrence.

[Pigskin]

https://www.bluebombers.com/2023/10/25/blue-bombers-announce-team-award-winners-5/

Most Outstanding Player: running back Brady Oliveira
Most Outstanding Canadian Player: running back Brady Oliveira*
Most Outstanding Defensive Player: defensive end Willie Jefferson*
Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman: right tackle Jermarcus Hardrick
Most Outstanding Special Teams Player: placekicker Sergio Castillo*
Most Outstanding Rookie: punter Jamieson Sheahan

*Indicates unanimous selection

Like. Nice to see JH51 in there this year.

[The Zipp]

Predictions:

Chad
Betts
BO
No idea - Hardrick just because
Leake
Stiggers - kind of a meh class TBH

[GOLDMEMBER]

Like. Nice to see JH51 in there this year.

His he not our pick every year at OL?

[Stats Junkie]

In the DIRTBAG OF THE YEAR category the final contestants are:

Micah Awe and Simoni Lawrence.

Montreal OL nominee Pier-Olivier Lestage is one of the most penalized players in the CFL this season. He has a league high 5 misconduct penalties and received a disqualification for spitting on an opponent.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

His he not our pick every year at OL?

Think about it for 3 seconds, who won the Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman award the last two seasons?

[TecnoGenius]

Most Outstanding Offensive Lineman: right tackle Jermarcus Hardrick

I knew it was going to be Brady.

As for Yoshi, so happy he finally gets some cred.  He may have whiffed a few more times than Big Stan, but I think he brings a ton more fire and morale to the O.  Just look at him strutting and running around the field to fire up the team!  I have no idea where he gets the energy at his age and size.

If the final selection isn't just based on stats, Yoshi could very well win it.  He's also the last guy you want to see barrelling towards you on a run block play.

[TecnoGenius]

Montreal OL nominee Pier-Olivier Lestage is one of the most penalized players in the CFL this season. He has a league high 5 misconduct penalties and received a disqualification for spitting on an opponent.

To be fair, as I said in that GDT, the dude he spit on clearly leaned in an horked a loogie at him first; clear as day on camera.  Stegall said on TSN last year that you can let anything pass as a player, except spitting.  Spitting demands retaliation.

[barbk]

His he not our pick every year at OL?

No Stanley Bryant is the one you are thinking about....  Yeah Goldmember you didn't pick in Week #20
for the pickems?  Where did you go?

[bunker]

I think Brady objectively deserves MOP. Has played every game, having an historic year for one of the 2 best teams in the league, a dual threat both passing and running. He's far in front of the other running backs in the league in terms of productivity. Kelly's stats are inferior to Zach's. Unfortunately, the pro Toronto bias will prevail.

[TecnoGenius]

No Stanley Bryant is the one you are thinking about....  Yeah Goldmember you didn't pick in Week #20
for the pickems?  Where did you go?

Goldie was taking in a Vikings or Chiefs game, though I can't remember which... I'm sure he'll chime in    Sucks that he didn't get his picks in in the hotel... doh!  Maybe Goldie having a little too much fun down south 

[TecnoGenius]

I think Brady objectively deserves MOP. Has played every game, having an historic year for one of the 2 best teams in the league, a dual threat both passing and running. He's far in front of the other running backs in the league in terms of productivity. Kelly's stats are inferior to Zach's. Unfortunately, the pro Toronto bias will prevail.

To me the clincher for Brady over Zach is Brady beat AH33's single season yardage records.  And the league looks for that too, doing "standout" things.  For Kelly, he has the single-season win record, plus the only game they were really threatened in (vs WPG) they sat Kelly so he wouldn't risk taking the L to tarnish his record.

In Brady v Kelly, I'm not positive Kelly will win.  Likely, because of TOR bias, but not a slam dunk.  I don't find Kelly very likeable (mean resting face, attitude) vs Brady who helps mistreated puppies and is eminently likeable.

[TecnoGenius]

MOST OUTSTANDING DEFENSIVE PLAYER

Toronto: Adarius Pickett

Bit surprised by this one.  Ya he seems good, but better than all that other beef on their D?  I thought McManis was the 2nd coming?  What about the front 4?  SAM is a very weird pick for MODP.

[ModAdmin]

It is interesting and laudable that only one person had only one incorrect player named in the Blue Bomber player award nominations.  Out of respect, I will not name that member except to say that he probably the most knowledgeable member on the forum.  He likely is too humble to accept such recognition but suffice it to say, congratulations and accolades are appropriate and deserved.  A high degree of player performance assessment and a keen eye, intelligence and experience are qualities that, while desired by many, but realized by few, clearly resulted in the high score by the member in question. He will, by his request, remain anonymous. 

[bwiser]

Goldie was taking in a Vikings or Chiefs game, though I can't remember which... I'm sure he'll chime in    Sucks that he didn't get his picks in in the hotel... doh!  Maybe Goldie having a little too much fun down south 

He was probably to busy hitting on Taylor Swift.

[tlf]

Predictions:

Chad
Betts
BO
No idea - Hardrick just because
Leake
Stiggers - kind of a meh class TBH

I find this sad considering Chad didn't lead the league in either yards, %, att, comp, TD (10 less than ZC..only 23!), and had a lower eff rating than ZC.   He's 5th in completions and attempts and he didn't play all the games. 

ah it just makes me annoyed even thinking about it.

Betts is a good player...deserving of nomination.