Blue Bombers transactions - June 12, 2023

[Pete]

Looks like an upgrade from what we had.. but other teams cuts.. not sure about this..

Bit of a statement on our American scouting this year...on the active roster as rookies we only have Haba and Pigrome, both backups. Especially knowing we had to replace Sayles. We're also likely short a DE.

[pjrocksmb]

Bit of a statement on our American scouting this year...on the active roster as rookies we only have Haba and Pigrome, both backups. Especially knowing we had to replace Sayles. We're also likely short a DE.

Have to wait till mid season to have a better idea of what we got here.

[bunker]

USFL New Jersey Generals season over in a week or two. I would be happier with Prukop as our short yardage guy than either Pigrome or Brown. Although it may not be possible with the USFL contract which seems to tie the player to the USFL til the end of the year unless it?s to  leave to the NFL.

[pjrocksmb]

USFL New Jersey Generals season over in a week or two. I would be happier with Prukop as our short yardage guy than either Pigrome or Brown. Although it may not be possible with the USFL contract which seems to tie the player to the USFL til the end of the year unless it?s to  leave to the NFL.

Brown can sneak, Piggy T will learn.  None issue handled internally.
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[TecnoGenius]

USFL New Jersey Generals season over in a week or two. I would be happier with Prukop as our short yardage guy than either Pigrome or Brown. Although it may not be possible with the USFL contract which seems to tie the player to the USFL til the end of the year unless it?s to  leave to the NFL.

Pigrome can probably fix the SY thing.  MOS said on coaches show it wasn't just Piggy's fault and that they'd fix it.  The thing with Pigrome is he has a shot to be a legit CFL starter if his PS flash is legit.  Say another Rourke, Mike Reilly, or BLM.  Ya, it's a small chance (way too few looks), but based on what we saw, I'd now say his chance his higher than Brown's!

As such, I wouldn't release PiggyT.  I think a lot of teams would like to have him as their dev guy just to see what he may have.

I want to note that PiggyT in PS2 had superb mechanics.  Watch they guy throw, he looks like a seasoned vet.  And he's a quick launcher, and has a cannon.  Add in his seemingly good read ability and he looks like a keeper, until proven otherwise.

I'm pretty sure we aren't interested in Prukop now, and he may be done with the CFL.

[Blue In BC]

Adding a DB that started in Calgary last year is a wise move. With Rose and Parker on 6 game IR, we've taken a beating with our depth. Both could be gone longer but we don't know the actual situation.

I'm disappointed that we didn't end up with " more " rookie DE's and DT's that stuck past TC. Haba could be a good find he was a late addition and almost won a spot on the AR by default.

At the very least need to start bringing in a few more players to try out on the PR.

If Jeffcoat is gone to IR, then things only get worse for our depth.

[theaardvark]

USFL New Jersey Generals season over in a week or two. I would be happier with Prukop as our short yardage guy than either Pigrome or Brown. Although it may not be possible with the USFL contract which seems to tie the player to the USFL til the end of the year unless it?s to  leave to the NFL.

Not even sure Prukop is back with the USFL... haven't seen him on the field or sidelines as I skim through the games...  regardless, I can't see him returning.  We will make do with what we have.  Pigrome will round into form, figuring out the one yard off the ball game takes time... maybe we need to enroll him in the Dunnigan "Sneak School".  Wouldn't hurt...

[bunker]

I doing think he?ll be back either, but I think he was a definite loss. Not only automatic on third and one, but also a real weapon on second and short, especially in the red zone. Pigrome was electric in the preseason, but until we get a sample size in real games, we don?t really know what we have in him.

[bunker]

Pigrome can probably fix the SY thing.  MOS said on coaches show it wasn't just Piggy's fault and that they'd fix it.  The thing with Pigrome is he has a shot to be a legit CFL starter if his PS flash is legit.  Say another Rourke, Mike Reilly, or BLM.  Ya, it's a small chance (way too few looks), but based on what we saw, I'd now say his chance his higher than Brown's!

As such, I wouldn't release PiggyT.  I think a lot of teams would like to have him as their dev guy just to see what he may have.

I want to note that PiggyT in PS2 had superb mechanics.  Watch they guy throw, he looks like a seasoned vet.  And he's a quick launcher, and has a cannon.  Add in his seemingly good read ability and he looks like a keeper, until proven otherwise.

I'm pretty sure we aren't interested in Prukop now, and he may be done with the CFL.

He was exciting in preseason, but way too premature to be taking about Pigrome as a starting QB, never mind comparing him to Reilly, BLM or Rourke. Let?s see if he can master a short yardage package against starting CFL players first.

[LXTSN]

He was exciting in preseason, but way too premature to be taking about Pigrome as a starting QB, never mind comparing him to Reilly, BLM or Rourke. Let?s see if he can master a short yardage package against starting CFL players first.

You're right about that.
However, BLM wasn't Calgary's starting QB until his third season, and Reilly wasn't BC's starter until his forth season.
To have Pigrome as a developing prospect for a few years is very reasonable.
Let's not put unreasonable expectations on this kid, give him some time to develop.

[bunker]

I'm happy to have him as a developmental prospect. The guy was the most exiting part of pre-season. But the fact is that it's pretty rare for a prospect to develop into a starting QB, (particularly in Winnipeg for some reason) never mind a good one. Just look around at teams starting players like Cornelius, Arbuckle, or Fajardo. There's no harm in getting amped up about him, but the odds are against it.

For those of you who remember Joey Elliott, he was CFL offensive player of the week twice in the span of a few months at QB for us in the 2012 season, and I thought we had finally developed a starting QB. He was  released in 2013. I've been a QB cynic ever since.

[LXTSN]

I'm happy to have him as a developmental prospect. The guy was the most exiting part of pre-season. But the fact is that it's pretty rare for a prospect to develop into a starting QB, (particularly in Winnipeg for some reason) never mind a good one. Just look around at teams starting players like Cornelius, Arbuckle, or Fajardo. There's no harm in getting amped up about him, but the odds are against it.

For those of you who remember Joey Elliott, he was CFL offensive player of the week twice in the span of a few months at QB for us in the 2012 season, and I thought we had finally developed a starting QB. He was  released in 2013. I've been a QB cynic ever since.

Looking back at our QB prospects that we've brought in, it's hard to find any that I've been excited about for the future, but Joey Elliott is a great pull!
Didn't last too long though...

[TecnoGenius]

He was exciting in preseason, but way too premature to be taking about Pigrome as a starting QB, never mind comparing him to Reilly, BLM or Rourke. Let?s see if he can master a short yardage package against starting CFL players first.

Let me elaborate on my comparison.  Piggy is like Reilly, BLM, Rourke in the sense that the very first time they set foot on the field in a live game they wowed and impressed.  I remember BLM's first 1.5 games on the field lighting it all up, and of course we all remember Rourke's first game starting.

You don't have to light it up your first game in order to eventually be great, but many of the players who do light it up the first time go on to be great.  Yes, Elliot makes a good counterpoint.  But we're talking odds here, and Piggy's odds of turning out legit are higher based on what we've seen (say 20% vs 10%).

[bunker]

I see what you're saying, and it's a valid point to an extent.

However it's so hard to project a QB's trajectory. Calvillo was mediocre in Hamilton before going to Montreal and becoming elite.  Casey Printer and Jonathan Jennings  were great for very short time until they weren't. Drew Willy looked incredibly promising til he broke under our inept o-line protection. Arbuckle looked like the next great thing in Calgary, now he's at best a below average back-up. Rourke was passed over by mist CFL teams. Even Zach, he looked great in Toronto and Hamilton initially, then looked washed up, now he's MOP.

I think for  a QB to succeed in the CFL he has to be put in the right situation to succeed (even Reilly struggled behind a terrible O-line in Edmonton). They also have to be able to read a defence, make smart decisions, and be accurate. All I know about Pigrome for now is that he's a great runner. Every year CFL teams bring 10-20 new QBs into camp, and at end of the season maybe one QB established himself as a new effective starter. Based on this I would put his odds of becoming a starter at less than 10%. In the end, we're both just guessing, but no harm in that.

[TecnoGenius]

All I know about Pigrome for now is that he's a great runner.

If anyone didn't already notice, go rewatch the PS2 game and watch Piggy's throwing mechanics.  Perfect textbook mechanics and left-arm positioning.  Especially on his deep ball.  That's what caught my eye right away.  Even "more by the books" than Zach!  He looks like BLM in his prime.  It really stood out to me in comparison to Strevie who had the most unconventional mechanics you could imagine (like that big-haired guy (name escapes me) that started a few games in MTL before 'vid).