Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2021/2022 Season

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Jesse

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on July 05, 2022, 05:05:49 AM
My point is the "old boys club" narrative is a fabricated one and I provided the rationale and coaches to show why that is. The "loyalty over winning" narrative is also pretty weak considering how - outside of this past season* - the team's done more winning than losing in recent history.

The Jets didn't get the man they wanted to be HC; he declined. What more qualified coaches currently unemployed would you prefer to see? Is there a better option than Bowness? I can't think of one.

I'm at a loss to understand what you mean by "former Moose on the roster as opposed to the most qualified NHL people out there." Unless you're saying the AHL side of the operation is loyal to former Moose players, in which case I'd agree. But the Moose aren't the team that needed new coaches, so it's a bit of a moot point.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but don't a lot NHL organizations operate with loyalty in mind? The Jets aren't some unique case from what I can tell.

The presser this morning made me at least cautiously optimistic about the new head coach, who made it sound like he's going to tackle the issues head on and fix what needs fixing. The talent is there.

* and there were several factors that played into it, far more relevant than "loyalty to familiar faces" or what have you

Well, we just don't agree then.

It seems clear to me that our organization hires people from their past - and that is evidenced by the amount of people retained from the Moose years.

You believe they are hiring who they feel are qualified.

I think we are at an impasse.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Jesse on July 05, 2022, 05:11:32 AM
Well, we just don't agree then.

It seems clear to me that our organization hires people from their past - and that is evidenced by the amount of people retained from the Moose years.

You believe they are hiring who they feel are qualified.

I think we are at an impasse.

It's both. They are hiring people whom they feel are qualified for sure. But TSNE also values familiarity to a certain extent. Maybe more than some other organizations. They do like to promote from within and they do have a certain "type". Character and familiarity are things that TSNE believes are important factors in the hiring process (or to their definition of "qualified" as you put it).

Pigskin

The draft is on Thursday with our 1st pick it would be nice to land, Slafkovsky, Jiricek, Geekie.
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Jesse

Quote from: Pigskin on July 05, 2022, 08:19:14 PM
The draft is on Thursday with our 1st pick it would be nice to land, Slafkovsky, Jiricek, Geekie.

I'm not really that high on Geekie.

Seems like an Adam Lowry clone to me and not worth a first rounder.
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Jockitch

As I needed a refresher, I googled ?Dubois wants out of Columbus?
Read 3 links and parts of a couple and for me it screams of a player simply wanting a big stage
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Pigskin

Quote from: Jockitch on July 06, 2022, 01:44:58 AM
As I needed a refresher, I googled ?Dubois wants out of Columbus?
Read 3 links and parts of a couple and for me it screams of a player simply wanting a big stage

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PL80 just didn't get along with JT in Columbus.

Not sure what he's trying to pull off here.

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blue_gold_84

I don't think he's pulling off anything. It seemed like he was upfront with the organization about his aspirations based on how last season went and whatever issues exist within the locker room and team culture.

If the new coaching staff can address and resolve those issues, we could see Dubois change his tune. The roster's leadership also needs to step up and help get things back on track again, too.

Here's hoping they're all successful and we can talk about a playoff run next spring.
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What a craptacular timeline.
Stewart Johnston is a villain.

dd

Quote from: Jesse on July 05, 2022, 05:11:32 AM
Well, we just don't agree then.

It seems clear to me that our organization hires people from their past - and that is evidenced by the amount of people retained from the Moose years.

You believe they are hiring who they feel are qualified.

I think we are at an impasse.
I think they hired who was available and willing to come to Winnipeg, as others wouldn?t.

Jesse

Quote from: dd on July 06, 2022, 06:40:09 AM
I think they hired who was available and willing to come to Winnipeg, as others wouldn?t.

That's probably fair too.

It just sucks, sometimes.
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: dd on July 06, 2022, 06:40:09 AM
I think they hired who was available and willing to come to Winnipeg, as others wouldn?t.
very well could be.
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Jockitch

Difference ?? in Columbus he spoke to organization but nothing was divulged to journalists
After his 3 year entry level contract he spoke quietly of his desire. Players were told after he signed that
short 2 years at $5.M and shortly into season he landed here.
Sadly, IMO, he went vocal publicly, no doubt after getting a blah, blah from Chevy. Letting the world know just reeks of ________ .        immaturity is one word that comes to mind
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blue_gold_84

I have no idea who McGroarty is. Sounds like he put up some good numbers in junior, though.
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What a craptacular timeline.
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blue_gold_84

Liking Lambert at 30th overall. His upside is very high; he just needs to have fun with the game again.

And it addresses a need at the wing if he can realize his potential.
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What a craptacular timeline.
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Pigskin

Lambert is a very quick dynamic player who has great puck control. Let's hope he can return to form of a couple of years ago. Like him at 30.
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Pigskin

#1049
Wasn't sure about our 1st. pick with Lekkerimaki and Kemell still on the board. Both smaller talented RW's.
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