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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2021, 08:39:45 PM »

I agree, Trudeau dropped the ball. He is also making promises he can't keep. At the rate we are going, we will be luck to have everyone in Canada vaccinate by January 2022.



I agree and a lack of understanding of the supply chain. Not one or even 3 pharmaceutical companies can produce 7 billion doses, let alone a second shot,  and they still do not have a pediatric version.
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2021, 12:48:05 PM »

Trudeau has contracted for 5 times the number of doses we need, there is no "dropped ball", it is lack of vaccine production in Canada, and other countries preventing companies from making good on contracts to countries other than their own. 

From October:  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-vaccine-rapid-tests-1.5774309

"Trudeau said the government has signed a contract to procure 76 million doses from the Quebec City-biotech company Medicago.

Medicago is developing the vaccine in partnership with the British drug company GlaxoSmithKline. The two companies have said its pre-clinical results show the vaccine demonstrated a "high level of neutralizing antibodies following a single dose."


Canada already has signed six other contracts for tens of millions more vaccine doses with other pharmaceutical giants, such as AstraZeneca, Moderna and Pfizer. All told, the federal government has secured 358 million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine ? an insurance policy if some of the vaccines in development prove to be ineffective in clinical trials."
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2021, 12:48:50 PM »

A lot of people would link our domestic inability to produce vaccines to the Mulroney decision to privatize Connaught Labs...
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/2020/03/11/the-public-lab-that-could-have-helped-fight-covid-19-pandemic.html

Exacerbated by the Harper government's massive cuts to Research Councils that develop the private sector-university partnerships that can bring vaccines to market.

There have been Trudeau missteps, but this particular shortcoming has multiple layers....

That did not help but we have multiple private sector entities in Canada that have the capability of vaccine production and Trudeau froze them out in favor of the "made in Canada" vaccine candidate from Quebec that went off the rails.
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2021, 05:50:43 PM »

Trudeau has contracted for 5 times the number of doses we need, there is no "dropped ball", it is lack of vaccine production in Canada, and other countries preventing companies from making good on contracts to countries other than their own. 

From October:  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-vaccine-rapid-tests-1.5774309

"Trudeau said the government has signed a contract to procure 76 million doses from the Quebec City-biotech company Medicago.

Medicago is developing the vaccine in partnership with the British drug company GlaxoSmithKline. The two companies have said its pre-clinical results show the vaccine demonstrated a "high level of neutralizing antibodies following a single dose."


Canada already has signed six other contracts for tens of millions more vaccine doses with other pharmaceutical giants, such as AstraZeneca, Moderna and Pfizer. All told, the federal government has secured 358 million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine ? an insurance policy if some of the vaccines in development prove to be ineffective in clinical trials."

Trudeau signed deals with Pfizer, Moderna etc MONTHS after most of the world had already done so and it forced us way down the cue and has greatly delayed our vaccine rollout. Medicago vaccine candidate is months away from clinical trials being completed. I have no doubt that he signed on for tens of millions of vaccine doses, that is not the issue....the issue is that he did it months too late. That's an undeniable fact and any suggestion otherwise is just liberal spin doctoring.
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2021, 06:16:32 PM »

How 'bout dem Bombers?
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2021, 04:27:19 AM »

The Code of Conduct states that political commentary is not allowed.  The thread is locked.  It is almost unavoidable to talk about COVID these days without bringing politics into the discussion.  Clearly we can't allow that to happen even though COVID and the proposed interventions is a serious topic.  Hope everyone understands.
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