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« Reply #45 on: May 25, 2020, 01:52:26 PM »

Is it plausible, the only way to make it safe. Is to ONLY let season ticket holders to game? That might get you close to the 50% capacity. Holds 33,500 half is 16,750. I bet there cant be more than 19k of them. NOT all of them go to the game. I get the $$$ wont be the same for the club. But, its still $$ of some sort.

I don't know about who would sit where seating or that disaster. And the concession lines can be marked out on the floor like Walmart/ 6ft part etc. Close rum hut. Masks must be worn. Theres ways to kind of make some things work. If the province opens the casinos, you have to figure Club Regent packed. All tables and slots going, events. Has to be close to 10,000 capacity. If they allow that, they should be able to come up with a plan fo IG.

But, If the borders still shut. Doesn't really matter...



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« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2020, 02:32:29 PM »

There's apparently a provision to allow non-residents/temporary residents into Canada for the purposes of work or study at this time - with the priority being essential travel. How this would apply to pro athletes in the event their work here resumes remains to be seen. These individuals would be subject to testing upon entry and a mandatory 14-day self isolation period.

This is but one hurdle in a sequence of many to get a CFL season going in 2020 (capacity restrictions are another major one, IMO - especially in tighter confines such as a stadium). I have absolutely no idea on how viable any of this is, though.
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« Reply #47 on: May 25, 2020, 03:23:54 PM »

This is not an all or nothing proposition.TSN could run ads and make it PPV. Then the spot ads have a captive audience. Further, TSN could black out home games only, as an example, run a PPV and targeted ads, with  significant revenue from those games going directly to the home team to aid them in their financial situation. The incentive to those who cheer for their team would be to obviously encourage buying the package to help team revenue. You understand therefore that this a rather extraordinary step only in extraordinary times.

Many cable companies offer TSN as part of their package. They can't now change it to PPV or black out local games. Their are individual station packages that are PPV now for hockey and NFL which broadcast games not on network already. However, that is a different idea than the change you suggest.

CFL teams already get money from TSN to broadcast all games including local games.
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« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2020, 11:59:29 PM »

it's very easy for TSN to black out games. Then fans will be force to purchases the games they want to see.
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« Reply #49 on: Today at 05:11:32 AM »

I don't know about who would sit where seating or that disaster. And the concession lines can be marked out on the floor like Walmart/ 6ft part etc. Close rum hut. Masks must be worn.

You can't have concessions + masks.  It's impossible.  Masks are useless, in fact worse than useless, if you are lifting them constantly to take a drink.  You end up touching around your face more with masks than without.  (To be clear, masks are great, but not in conjunction with oral consumption!)

I still think you go mandatory masks, and zero concessions.  The effectiveness of masks are amplified when everyone is wearing one.  Then almost no large aerosols get into the air.  It stops them getting out, and getting in.  A mass infection incident would basically be impossible, and everyone's individual risk drops substantially.  If you're older or want to be super safe, wear goggles too.

In fact, it was in one of last week's sports-Bomber-shows that (I think) WM said every STH gets a free mask with their ST package this year.  They already ordered them.  Done deal.  So obviously the WFC thinks that might be a way forward and it's not just Tecno talking out his butt.

So my question earlier remains (that no one answered): can IGF turn a profit with zero concessions?  Is the gate (assuming we don't have to distance too much) enough?  If they can at least break even, sounds good to me.
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« Reply #50 on: Today at 01:40:35 PM »

You can't have concessions + masks.  It's impossible.  Masks are useless, in fact worse than useless, if you are lifting them constantly to take a drink.  You end up touching around your face more with masks than without.  (To be clear, masks are great, but not in conjunction with oral consumption!)

I still think you go mandatory masks, and zero concessions.  The effectiveness of masks are amplified when everyone is wearing one.  Then almost no large aerosols get into the air.  It stops them getting out, and getting in.  A mass infection incident would basically be impossible, and everyone's individual risk drops substantially.  If you're older or want to be super safe, wear goggles too.

In fact, it was in one of last week's sports-Bomber-shows that (I think) WM said every STH gets a free mask with their ST package this year.  They already ordered them.  Done deal.  So obviously the WFC thinks that might be a way forward and it's not just Tecno talking out his butt.

So my question earlier remains (that no one answered): can IGF turn a profit with zero concessions?  Is the gate (assuming we don't have to distance too much) enough?  If they can at least break even, sounds good to me.


With the exception of your observation that concessions are a no-go with masks, you are engaging in magical thinking (which can be said for this whole thread).  To wit:

1. You cannot achieve 100% compliance with fans wearing masks.  Walking around the street and grocery store right now, less than 10% of people are wearing masks.  Of those that do, maybe a quarter of them pull the mask off to stop and talk to a friend they meet.  They think that because they know and like the person, they are less risky than a stranger.  Illogical, but you can see it if you watch.  So a mass infection incident is not "basically impossible".

2.  People will smuggle in booze, people will smuggle in water, it's just how people are.  Maybe not most, but enough to compromise your sterile bubble. 

3.  When you advise the older people who want to be "super safe" to wear googles, you are failing to recognize the pattern of infection spread. Me wearing googles at the game doesn't protect the grandmother, cancer patient or other compromised person who may subsequently come into contact with the 20 year old fan who thinks they are bullet proof to this thing.  If the risk of infection was only there for attendees, I would gladly let people make their choices and suffer the consequences.  But that's not how it works.

4.  Multiple team presidents (Als, Ticats, Argos) have now come out with rule of thumb estimates for capacity under a social distancing formula.  It tends to run in the 5000 to 7000 range.  That almost certainly does not cover the costs of opening up and staffing the facility, much less any extra staffing related to taking temperatures, disinfecting, monitoring compliance.  Even if govt $ are there for subsidy, it makes more economic sense to play without fans. 

5.  Mass attendance events remain the highest risk, and are going to be the last thing to come back.  The nature of the sport is secondary.

6.  If we see any football this year, it will probably be (a) govt subsidized, and (b) played in empty stadiums.   The league may be able to stickhandle through the player safety issues, and travel restrictions may be sufficiently loosened.  But there is, IMHO, no safe scenario for several thousand fans to be congregating by this fall. 
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« Reply #51 on: Today at 04:44:11 PM »

Let's say we go back to football in September, but the Bombers are only 15,000 fans. How would the bomber determine who the 15,000 would be. Would season ticket holders get first crack at the 15,000 seats?
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