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« on: March 04, 2020, 02:08:18 AM »

He seems to be an under appreciated canadian kicker that may be worth a dice roll if you could pick him up in the third or later round.  I am thinking secession planning for Medlock. Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2020, 03:08:05 AM »

Medlock 36, will turn 37 during the season.  But no reason he can't play until 40.  Didn't McCallum go even older?  How old is Mr. Rouge in SSK?  50?

But, yes, a promising young NAT kicker could come in handy.  However, don't these guys usually start meh then leave their draft team once they are good?  Why develop them just for the other team to benefit?  Isn't it better to let someone else do all the work and hire them afterwards?

Is this kid any good?
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2020, 08:21:53 AM »

Medlock will do just fine...  Medlock looks like he is in his twenties..
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2020, 10:10:23 AM »

Huh?
Medlock is the best kicker in the logical free world.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2020, 12:10:04 PM »

Medlock is a fantastic kicker but we also need to remember he came within a hair of retiring prior to the 2018 season.
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2020, 01:23:53 PM »

There's logic in the life after Medlock angle but drafting kickers is tough because it can be hard to roster/retain them after TC. Practice roster possibly but it's hard to roster them if someone else comes knocking. 6-game is an option but then they're not practicing with the team.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2020, 04:59:12 PM »

There are 7 Global kickers coming to the Combine.  If ever there was a position where a global could actually contribute, kicker seems tailor-made.

If we have to dress a second global player this year in addition to Panzer Boi, I would be happy for it to be a global that we can try out and make a succession plan for Medlock.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2020, 06:56:55 PM »

A global kicker is not a bad development player. OTOH it does nothing in 2020 to create global interest with another player just not seeing the field.

I'm for it but Ambosie's goal is global viewership. A bunch of players ( now 2 on the AR ) not actively adding obvious value is a tough sell to that idea.

I've laughing suggested / asked whether A. Calvillo has a nephew that can play QB that we can draft as a global # 3.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2020, 09:43:12 PM »

I've laughing suggested / asked whether A. Calvillo has a nephew that can play QB that we can draft as a global # 3.

I'm all for that idea!  Grin  However, isn't Calvillo & family American, not Mexican (in terms of roster pigeon-holing, not ethnicity)?

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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2020, 10:52:57 PM »

I'm all for that idea!  Grin  However, isn't Calvillo & family American, not Mexican (in terms of roster pigeon-holing, not ethnicity)?

GLOB QB!  GLOB QB!  GLOB QB!


Yes he was born in California but his heritage is Mexican. I'm sure he has some family still in Mexico.

It was just an interesting thought. OTOH I'll probably be surprised if ANY global QB's are even on the draft list. But you never know.
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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2020, 12:25:33 AM »

Medlock is a fantastic kicker but we also need to remember he came within a hair of retiring prior to the 2018 season.

Exactly what I was thinking. I am a huge fan and think he is the best kicker to have played in the CFL.  He is still great and has more years to play if he wants to.  His wife was on the LPGA until she had difficulties with Lupus.  They now have a family and seem to be living in Florida (judging by his SUVs plates as I seem to park next to him every game).  He went to UCLA, is very intelligent and has connections which means he has options. 

Last January Medlock agreed to a two year contract.  He is well paid and in my opinion worth every penny.  He has been ?money? in the bank.  I never worry about our kicking game.  Does he have bad kicks or sometimes a bad run.  Sure but his bad is still good for many, he is a consummate professional and I know it will be short.

Instead of responding to each I?ll address all points.

The part about developing and rationing is a good one.  We all remember Paredes. 

I thought we need to be ready for life without Medlock.  While he can play for quite a few more years he may not, depending on post football plans. This canadian kid Liegghio is undervalued. Further I thought if we had a protege he could learn from Medlock. It could also give Medlock experience in coaching which may assist him depending on post football plans.

That said, picking up an international player with potential is really brilliant.  Further Medlock is a former soccer player, a lefty, a perfectionist, and professional that could really assist someone like this.  I have been convinced by the gang, if there is an international there is less cost and risk.  It makes a lot of sense.  I know people are thinking soccer player, but I am also thinking Australian Rules Football player as a punter given their game of essentially ?kicking rugby.?  They are also excellent at ball placement.

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2020, 02:39:48 AM »

Pass we have best kicker ever
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2020, 01:15:37 PM »

Sure. Have him sit behind Medlock and then potentially get an extra DI spot in a couple seasons
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2020, 02:48:36 PM »

Pass we have best kicker ever

Right, and I'm sure Medlock plans to play forever, so no need to consider the future.
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2020, 01:42:44 PM »

Count 4 Australian kickers the CFL is inviting
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2020, 03:53:52 PM »

Marc Liegghio is a heck of a kicker and a good friend of mine.  Any team that takes this guy will reap the benefits. This guy has incredible accuracy and distance.
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2020, 04:13:33 PM »

Marc Liegghio is a heck of a kicker and a good friend of mine.  Any team that takes this guy will reap the benefits. This guy has incredible accuracy and distance.

Not familiar with him but I'm all for having a Canadian kicker as a back up and / or in development. Medlock can play for many more seasons or he may choose to retire at any time.

SMS is always an issue as is the ratio aspect.

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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2020, 06:18:57 PM »

Pass we have best kicker ever

Pass on Usports greatest kicker of all time. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2020, 06:07:07 PM »

Pass on Usports greatest kicker of all time. Roll Eyes
Yeah cuz Medlock is gonna play forever
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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2020, 02:04:35 AM »

Round 5 - did I call that?
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2020, 03:15:15 AM »

I am all for a young Canadian kicker, however it looks like his longest FG last year was 45 yards. Not the leg strength we are us to. If there is football this year, he will learn a lot for JM.
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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2020, 11:09:32 AM »

I am all for a young Canadian kicker, however it looks like his longest FG last year was 45 yards. Not the leg strength we are us to. If there is football this year, he will learn a lot for JM.

He has a huge leg. No worries there. His longest may have been 45 but that probably had more to do with a coach deciding he doesn't like the risk of longer than that attempts.
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2020, 12:44:51 PM »

I am all for a young Canadian kicker, however it looks like his longest FG last year was 45 yards. Not the leg strength we are us to. If there is football this year, he will learn a lot for JM.

While I agree he'll learn a lot from Medlock, your assertion he has questionable leg strength based on his longest college FG doesn't really add up.

Check him out on Twitter. He has leg strength: https://twitter.com/Liegghio19/status/887490301354442752
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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2020, 02:35:12 PM »

I am all for a young Canadian kicker, however it looks like his longest FG last year was 45 yards. Not the leg strength we are us to. If there is football this year, he will learn a lot for JM.

Not sure where to find USports stats, but what are his KO numbers like?  That is the judge of leg "strength"... for FG, I'm not worried about length, but rather accuracy...
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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2020, 04:07:36 PM »

Career: 88 percent FG, 99 percent Converts, 41.5 gross punt avg., 56.5 Kick off. He has improved every year at the U level.
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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2020, 04:19:50 PM »

Career: 88 percent FG, 99 percent Converts, 41.5 gross punt avg., 56.5 Kick off. He has improved every year at the U level.

That's a little light by CFL standards.  Most CFL kickers are at 62 yards average for kick offs or higher.   On the other hand, Sean Whyte, who is a very respectable CFL kicker, averaged 58 yards on kick offs. 

Justin Palardy also showed that you can keep a job with a slightly understrength leg, so long as you are accurate.  The Bombers got good (but not great) results from him (82% accuracy over his tenure), but when he went only 9 for 12 in addition to having limited range, he eventually got the sack. 

I am sure Liegghio has a stronger leg than Palardy, but my point is that the kid doesn't have to have a cannon to be viable. 
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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2020, 04:25:10 PM »

Medlock last year: 86 percent FG, 99 percent converts, 44.5 gross avg. punts, 67.2 kick off. He also made 6 FG over 50 yards.

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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2020, 07:21:03 PM »

Always good to have insurance justnin case Medlock quits or gets injured.
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« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2020, 08:03:01 PM »

Career: 88 percent FG, 99 percent Converts, 41.5 gross punt avg., 56.5 Kick off. He has improved every year at the U level.

He?s also probably 22 years old. Let the kid grow up a bit before we decide he?s not strong enough.
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« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2020, 02:20:02 PM »

He?s also probably 22 years old. Let the kid grow up a bit before we decide he?s not strong enough.


The point was he is no Medlock right now. He has made improvements over his U career and will make more working with a kicker like JM if we have a CFL season this year.

Like a few bomber I am not sure if JM returns next year if there is no CFL in 2020.
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« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2020, 02:46:59 PM »


The point was he is no Medlock right now. He has made improvements over his U career and will make more working with a kicker like JM if we have a CFL season this year.

Like a few bomber I am not sure if JM returns next year if there is no CFL in 2020.
Did...did someone say he was already better than Medlock? He's like 15 years younger
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