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« on: January 30, 2020, 04:47:39 PM »

MONTREAL ? The Alouettes have released American quarterback Antonio Pipkin after three seasons in Montreal the club announced Thursday.

Pipkin, once seen as a potential option to take over as the club?s franchise pivot, exits Montreal with 1,295, 4 touchdowns and 8 interceptions on 99 of 182 passing.  He also added 318 yards and 9 touchdowns on the ground during his tenure.  The Gary, Indiana native started six games while in Montreal.

https://www.cfl.ca/2020/01/30/qb-antonio-pipkin-released-alouettes/

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Should the Bombers have any interest? He's still only 24.
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2020, 04:52:02 PM »

From Dunk:

Veteran quarterback Antonio Pipkin has been released by the Montreal Alouettes.

The 24-year-old was due a roster bonus of $8,500 on February 1, followed by a series of $5,000 roster bonuses on March 1, April 1, and May 1.


Pipkin joined the Alouettes in June 2017 and saw his first CFL action late that year. Cut by the club in June 2018, he was later re-signed following injuries to the team?s other quarterbacks.
Pipkin entered the 2019 season as Montreal?s starting pivot but lost the job to Vernon Adams Jr. after suffering an injury in the team?s first regular season game.


The Tiffin product dressed for 27 games as a member of the Alouettes, completing 99-of-182 passes for 1,295 yards, four touchdowns and eight interceptions. He also ran the ball 58 times for 318 yards and nine scores.
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2020, 04:52:24 PM »

hmmmm. not sure on this one.
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2020, 04:52:54 PM »

Rather have MBT but Pipkin is a good option as well. 
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2020, 04:55:04 PM »

He has a completely different running style than Streveler, but if Strev won't be back, Pipkin might be able to pull some of those kind of plays off.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2020, 04:59:43 PM »

Not impressed with him....take a hard pass on him.   
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2020, 05:05:02 PM »

MONTREAL ? The Alouettes have released American quarterback Antonio Pipkin after three seasons in Montreal the club announced Thursday.

Pipkin, once seen as a potential option to take over as the club?s franchise pivot, exits Montreal with 1,295, 4 touchdowns and 8 interceptions on 99 of 182 passing.  He also added 318 yards and 9 touchdowns on the ground during his tenure.  The Gary, Indiana native started six games while in Montreal.

https://www.cfl.ca/2020/01/30/qb-antonio-pipkin-released-alouettes/

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Should the Bombers have any interest? He's still only 24.

I certainly wouldn't rule him out. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2020, 05:57:27 PM »

Not impressed with him....take a hard pass on him.   

He might have more experience than McGuire but not substantially more, hopefully the Bombers employ the backup with the greatest future potential to become a starter.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2020, 06:06:40 PM »

Rather have MBT but Pipkin is a good option as well. 

I agree, if we can't get Strv17 back here, MBT would be a nice pickup.
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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2020, 06:35:51 PM »

Yes yes yes. Sign me up
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2020, 07:05:47 PM »

He might have more experience than McGuire but not substantially more, hopefully the Bombers employ the backup with the greatest future potential to become a starter.

Agree.

Now that we have won a cup, I feel less pressure and desperation to have a vet backup who will probably never be a great starter. I would love to groom McGuire this year and give him #2 reps and appropriate in-game action. We need to start thinking about our future. Of course, if Strev returns we take him but I think we should have the mentality of being prepared to roll with McGuire.
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2020, 07:18:31 PM »

I am good  with this too. Looking forward to seeing more from McGuire this year.
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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2020, 07:31:32 PM »

You unrepentant homers....

Look, Pipkin has 1200+ yards, is 2-2 in starts (2018) and has shown he has some physical ability and can win a game. 

McGuire is 2/3 and 17 yards  How can anyone possibly conclude that he has more ability, upside or potential than Pipkin at this point? I am not saying McGuire won't turn into a CFL HoF QB, who knows what is possible.  But if Collaros takes a noggin shot next August, I want a guy on the bench who has at least won a game in the CFL.  At the very least, a guy like Pipkin should be brought in to compete with McGuire.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2020, 07:39:02 PM »

You unrepentant homers....
McGuire is 2/3 and 17 yards  How can anyone possibly conclude that he has more ability, upside or potential than Pipkin at this point?
Not concluding anything. But I got a #12 McGuire game-worn jersey at the locker room sale - it was pretty clean Smiley - and I want to wear it.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2020, 07:49:27 PM »

He might have more experience than McGuire but not substantially more, hopefully the Bombers employ the backup with the greatest future potential to become a starter.
He is literally one year older than McGuire. Its not like he is a finished product
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2020, 07:50:02 PM »

You unrepentant homers....

Look, Pipkin has 1200+ yards, is 2-2 in starts (2018) and has shown he has some physical ability and can win a game. 

McGuire is 2/3 and 17 yards  How can anyone possibly conclude that he has more ability, upside or potential than Pipkin at this point? I am not saying McGuire won't turn into a CFL HoF QB, who knows what is possible.  But if Collaros takes a noggin shot next August, I want a guy on the bench who has at least won a game in the CFL.  At the very least, a guy like Pipkin should be brought in to compete with McGuire.
Age also can't be an excuse. McGuire is 23. Pipkin is 24
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« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2020, 08:23:38 PM »

Pass on Pipkin. He doesn't impress me. He had a few good starts but hasn't done anything lately.
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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2020, 08:31:15 PM »

You unrepentant homers....

Look, Pipkin has 1200+ yards, is 2-2 in starts (2018) and has shown he has some physical ability and can win a game. 

McGuire is 2/3 and 17 yards  How can anyone possibly conclude that he has more ability, upside or potential than Pipkin at this point? I am not saying McGuire won't turn into a CFL HoF QB, who knows what is possible.  But if Collaros takes a noggin shot next August, I want a guy on the bench who has at least won a game in the CFL.  At the very least, a guy like Pipkin should be brought in to compete with McGuire.

He has barely more knowns than McGuire. Nobody is concluding anything. If he did have significantly more experience and did significantly more wins, that might be a different story. Saw him play and while he wasn't bad, the raw potential of McGuire is more intriguing. It's not uncommon for a team to covet the guys they bring in, too.
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2020, 08:32:07 PM »

Pass on Pipkin. He doesn't impress me. He had a few good starts but hasn't done anything lately.
It could not hurt to bring him in
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2020, 08:53:47 PM »

He has barely more knowns than McGuire. Nobody is concluding anything. If he did have significantly more experience and did significantly more wins, that might be a different story. Saw him play and while he wasn't bad, the raw potential of McGuire is more intriguing. It's not uncommon for a team to have more confidence in the guys they bring in, too.

Well said. I'd rather the team explore other options. Pipkin's not worth a look, IMO.
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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2020, 09:08:23 PM »

I am with Linc, Blue Girl, and 84
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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2020, 09:15:33 PM »

We are past the time of picking over scrap heaps... Pip[kin had the usual flash of a new QB, until other teams had CFL film on them.  Unfortunately, I don't think Pipkin has shown anything worth a second look. 
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2020, 09:23:05 PM »

We are past the time of picking over scrap heaps... Pip[kin had the usual flash of a new QB, until other teams had CFL film on them.  Unfortunately, I don't think Pipkin has shown anything worth a second look. 

We're not past the point of picking over scrap heaps.  There's a better than average chance that MBT, Pipkin, or Jennings is in Blue and Gold sometime next season, it's just down to whether or not we want to commit early and take the best of what's available, or roll the dice and take what's left.

Not saying that that in any way makes Pipkin the best option, but let's not pretend like we're in a massively better position at QB than other years.  In fact, if Strev doesn't come back, we're pretty much back to the Buck and the Backups routine, where we hope our starter doesn't get hammered, because no one else has live game experience.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2020, 09:47:34 PM »

I say we don't rush and see how Strev situation plays out.
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2020, 10:18:29 PM »

If Streveler isn't back, Pipkin is my choice for backup with a bit of upside and experience
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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2020, 10:56:29 PM »

We are past the time of picking over scrap heaps... Pip[kin had the usual flash of a new QB, until other teams had CFL film on them.  Unfortunately, I don't think Pipkin has shown anything worth a second look. 

As opposed to Masoli, Nichols, Fajardo, Adams Jr, etc...

Many QBs in our league are scrap heaped before they become starters.  Very, very few develop and become the starter for the same team.

I'd be interested in bringing him to camp and seeing him side by side with McGuire
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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2020, 11:15:08 PM »

wouldn't hurt to give him a chance here to compete
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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2020, 02:34:02 AM »

Well said. I'd rather the team explore other options. Pipkin's not worth a look, IMO.
Why not. He is young, has looked promising (especially a couple years ago on that awful MTL team) and we have a whole 2 QBs under contract.

It's okay to bring in other teams cuts. We need to accept that
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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2020, 02:34:23 AM »

Pass on Pipkin. He doesn't impress me. He had a few good starts but hasn't done anything lately.
Because he got hurt and Adam's stepped in....
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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2020, 02:36:40 AM »

We are past the time of picking over scrap heaps... Pip[kin had the usual flash of a new QB, until other teams had CFL film on them.  Unfortunately, I don't think Pipkin has shown anything worth a second look. 
Yeah like when we signed J.Grant after he got cut by Hamilton after the preseason, Nick Taylorand Korey Jones after Edmonton cut them, Rasheed Bailey and Kenny Lawler after they got cut by BC a couple years ago...if we wanna go a bit further theres Augustine from EDM and Sask, Hardrick from Sask and BC. We traded a 7th for Nichols because Edmonton didn't need him anymore. Also, in our practice squad/1 game IR we had Darrel William's (Hamilton), Jordan Robinson (Edm), Koloamatangi (BC),Latour (Montreal), Malcolm William's (Toronto) and Brandon Calver and Dondre Wright (Montreal). All were cut at some point during the season. All were a part of our GC winning team. 3 are under contract at the moment.

It's a small league and also a different type of football than what most americans play. Bringing in other teams cuts isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long as they either get cut if they aren't up to par or become a solid player
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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2020, 02:45:15 AM »

I d bring him to TC for a look, what have you got to lose?? He?s started games, did ok, I think Montreal is giving up on him too early and they aren?t exactly rich in Qb depth, if Adams goes down to injury, and he will just like everyone else, they?re toast. Stiffing a guy on his roster bonus s is such a douche move, I hope the Als get what they deserve.
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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2020, 01:00:00 PM »

I d bring him to TC for a look, what have you got to lose?? He?s started games, did ok, I think Montreal is giving up on him too early and they aren?t exactly rich in Qb depth, if Adams goes down to injury, and he will just like everyone else, they?re toast. Stiffing a guy on his roster bonus s is such a douche move, I hope the Als get what they deserve.

Agree on taking a look.  Disagree on the criticism of avoiding the bonus.  Sports is a business and that's the way she goes when contracts are not guaranteed.
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« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2020, 01:57:13 PM »

I d bring him to TC for a look, what have you got to lose?? He?s started games, did ok, I think Montreal is giving up on him too early and they aren?t exactly rich in Qb depth, if Adams goes down to injury, and he will just like everyone else, they?re toast. Stiffing a guy on his roster bonus s is such a douche move, I hope the Als get what they deserve.

Contracts are actually structured that way to benefit the player. It forces the team to commit cap space to the player and thereby helps to affirm their intentions. Now Pipkin is free to sign with other teams early enough into the off-season to have a good chance at another decent contract. If there were no bonuses, Montreal wouldn't have to decide on the player until training camp, at which point most SMS dollars are already allocated, especially at the QB position.
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« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2020, 02:42:52 PM »

Contracts are actually structured that way to benefit the player. It forces the team to commit cap space to the player and thereby helps to affirm their intentions. Now Pipkin is free to sign with other teams early enough into the off-season to have a good chance at another decent contract. If there were no bonuses, Montreal wouldn't have to decide on the player until training camp, at which point most SMS dollars are already allocated, especially at the QB position.
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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2020, 03:08:43 PM »

No player was ever cut that actually earned his bonus.  It is on the player to perform up to his deal... if not, then they get cut...  not saying good players don't get cut, but they do have to have a level of play commensurate with the pay structure...
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« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2020, 08:29:56 PM »

This player has completed around 25% of his passes. I am not sure he is worth the time.
What?

Yeah most of his stats came as a rookie on an Al's team coached by Mike Sherman and company. Same team that finished dead last.
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« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2020, 08:34:27 PM »

It's not even true. His career completion percentage is 54.39% (99 for 182)
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« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2020, 08:45:40 PM »

You are right I miss read that stat.
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« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2020, 10:32:19 PM »

Contracts are actually structured that way to benefit the player. It forces the team to commit cap space to the player and thereby helps to affirm their intentions. Now Pipkin is free to sign with other teams early enough into the off-season to have a good chance at another decent contract. If there were no bonuses, Montreal wouldn't have to decide on the player until training camp, at which point most SMS dollars are already allocated, especially at the QB position.
I guess the roster bonus forces the teams hand, thing is, why wait until a week before FA to cut a guy, cut him back in nov or dec if you?re not going to pay him his bonus....the Als haven?t signed any Qbs since the season ended, why not cut him back then and give him and his agent more time to see what?s out there??
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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2020, 01:07:13 AM »

I guess the roster bonus forces the teams hand, thing is, why wait until a week before FA to cut a guy, cut him back in nov or dec if you?re not going to pay him his bonus....the Als haven?t signed any Qbs since the season ended, why not cut him back then and give him and his agent more time to see what?s out there??

There is no huge advantage to the player to be released much earlier.  In the month since Xmas teams are extending some players, waiting for rehab reports, waiting on NFL tryouts etc.  The releasing team may not have made its decision by now, and other teams are awaiting similar information before they start shaping their roster in earnest.
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2020, 05:17:28 AM »

If the price is right....  better than noob QB straight from College.
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2020, 06:08:50 AM »

Als signed their starter
Releasing guys early allows them to get a contract, should they deserve one.
It's a respectful thing to do.
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