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« on: December 14, 2019, 04:01:44 PM »

So, on the lists, this is the work each team has to do, and what they have done...

Team     FA's      Signed
MTL       28           0
OTT       35           0
TOR       33           3    Joeseph (OL), Woods, Worthy
HAM       31           0
WPG      25           4    Neufeld, Maston, Hardrick, Wolitarski
SSK       32           1    Henry
CGY       30           5    Law, Lawrence, Milanovich-Litre, Wall, Wiggan
EDM       36           0
BC         31           1    Rutley



So, 22 left to decide on, 3 important starters already re-upped.

5 of 12 GC starters on D signed, 9 of 12 on O, and our 2 specialists...

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« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2019, 04:12:06 PM »

Mtl has to settle their GM first

Ott and Edm just settled their coaches last week

Ham is still crying in the corner because of their GC loss
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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2019, 04:28:23 PM »

Mtl has to settle their GM first

Ott and Edm just settled their coaches last week

Ham is still crying in the corner because of their GC loss

I can empathize with that feeling.  As a Bomber fan, I've felt that more than the joy of winning it!

But I wonder if Hamilton is delayed by waiting on news about Masoli's injury.  Whether they choose to pursue signing him again is going to considerably affect how much money they have to spend elsewhere.   I'm guessing they let him go, and Ottawa picks him up, but I've not seen any news/interviews from either the team or Masoli that hints at what might happen there.  Has anyone seen anything that implies it's a done deal that he's leaving?
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2019, 03:05:36 PM »

I would imagine Jefferson and Rose will be gone to the NFL. Like Jefferson was already the Miami Dolphins best player without even playing for them yet. Rose with the ball hawking ability could easily be a 5th or 6th DB for a lot of NFL teams. Did I hear correctly that Rose and Jefferson worked out for the Dolphins? If so they are both gone. Dolphins D couldnt beat the Redblacks.
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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2019, 03:28:54 PM »

That's what happens with championship teams...if we lose Willy and Rose...I'll wish them all the best...

Glad we have all our scouts back...the last few years with a real scouting department has resulted in a much quality of player coming to play for the Blue
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2019, 04:55:49 PM »

Just for reference, CatFan will be shocked to know that Hamilton has:

3 of their GC starting D signed, and 6 of the starting O.  9 of the 24 starters in the GC are signed (plus the 2 specials)
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2019, 01:22:28 AM »

I can empathize with that feeling.  As a Bomber fan, I've felt that more than the joy of winning it!

But I wonder if Hamilton is delayed by waiting on news about Masoli's injury.  Whether they choose to pursue signing him again is going to considerably affect how much money they have to spend elsewhere.   I'm guessing they let him go, and Ottawa picks him up, but I've not seen any news/interviews from either the team or Masoli that hints at what might happen there.  Has anyone seen anything that implies it's a done deal that he's leaving?


Well there was this TSN report from Nov. 25th, for what it's worth.

"TSN's CFL Insiders Dave Naylor and Farhan Lalji reported over Grey Cup Weekend that while the team has Evans under contract for the next two seasons and Masoli is a pending free agent, the Ticats want both QBs back in the fold next season.

"Hamilton is set with Dane Evans. He has two years left on his contract at a reasonable number so that?s a very good situation for the Ticats going forward," Naylor said. "They would like to have Jeremiah Masoli back. He started the season as their No. 1 quarterback, had an ACL injury at the end of July, and not 100 per cent certain when he'll be ready to play, but the Ticats want him back in the fold. They believe this is a two-quarterback league."

https://www.tsn.ca/hamilton-tiger-cats-want-qb-jeremiah-masoli-back-next-season-1.1403738

If the TiCats can keep Masoli's interest for max. $500,000 and bump Evans without exceeding $250,000 they might be able to handle the SMS hit with the help of the 6-game IR.  Kind of depends on what Masoli is looking for, he's already 31 and hasn't achieved anything, if he's after the biggest pay off without the consideration of playing for a competitive team, T.O. might convince him to throw away his G.C. ambitions on a longer 3 year $600,000 plus contract.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2019, 02:05:17 AM »

Well there was this TSN report from Nov. 25th, for what it's worth.

"TSN's CFL Insiders Dave Naylor and Farhan Lalji reported over Grey Cup Weekend that while the team has Evans under contract for the next two seasons and Masoli is a pending free agent, the Ticats want both QBs back in the fold next season.

"Hamilton is set with Dane Evans. He has two years left on his contract at a reasonable number so that?s a very good situation for the Ticats going forward," Naylor said. "They would like to have Jeremiah Masoli back. He started the season as their No. 1 quarterback, had an ACL injury at the end of July, and not 100 per cent certain when he'll be ready to play, but the Ticats want him back in the fold. They believe this is a two-quarterback league."

https://www.tsn.ca/hamilton-tiger-cats-want-qb-jeremiah-masoli-back-next-season-1.1403738

If the TiCats can keep Masoli's interest for max. $500,000 and bump Evans without exceeding $250,000 they might be able to handle the SMS hit with the help of the 6-game IR.  Kind of depends on what Masoli is looking for, he's already 31 and hasn't achieved anything, if he's after the biggest pay off without the consideration of playing for a competitive team, T.O. might convince him to throw away his G.C. ambitions on a longer 3 year $600,000 plus contract.
interesting. With those numbers TiCats could become hamstrung for other positions of need.

Ala the same issue the Lions had this year.

If I were the Ticats I?m done with Masoli the Canoli.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2019, 03:25:11 AM »

If the TiCats can keep Masoli's interest for max. $500,000 and bump Evans without exceeding $250,000 they might be able to handle the SMS hit with the help of the 6-game IR.

With the 2 QB 2020 situation is that what teams are going to do?  Might we sign Nichols/Collaros/Strev (assuming Strev comes back asap) and then instantly dump one of N/C on the 6GIR?  If so, that keeps teams within the SMS, but it doesn't actually help the stated goal of managing team cost expectations for new buyers/teams.  If we pay N & C, say, $350k each, we may only show $350k of SMS hit for most of the year, but it will still be $700k out of club's pocket for the season.

And like someone else already said, if making a mockery of the rules like this becomes commonplace, why not just make better rules that get it all "out in the open"?
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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2019, 01:11:59 PM »

Evans is stuck there by his contract, but we saw what happened in Toronto with Wilder, and BC with Jennings.  Sure, they want both back, who wouldn't.  But Evans has proven himself as a starter, and to expect him to languish on the sidelines for 2 years happily making ELC backup wage, not sure what his mindset is, but that's not a good situation.  WHich means he gets a renegotiated contract and a bump.

Masoli isn't signing for a low end deal, he can get legit starter money out there.  And if he were to re-sign, who is the starter? 

Yes, it is a 2 QB league, d'oh.  But having 2 QB's under the cap, not so easy.  Like saying we should sign Nichols and Collaros..
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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2019, 01:43:02 PM »

With the 2 QB 2020 situation is that what teams are going to do?  Might we sign Nichols/Collaros/Strev (assuming Strev comes back asap) and then instantly dump one of N/C on the 6GIR?  If so, that keeps teams within the SMS, but it doesn't actually help the stated goal of managing team cost expectations for new buyers/teams.  If we pay N & C, say, $350k each, we may only show $350k of SMS hit for most of the year, but it will still be $700k out of club's pocket for the season.

And like someone else already said, if making a mockery of the rules like this becomes commonplace, why not just make better rules that get it all "out in the open"?


No, we will not sign a QB and dump him on the 6 game IR...neither will Hamilton. Players on the 6 game are not allowed to practice or attend team meetings and must also agree to go on the 6 game. If a team wants to do that...go for it...they are not doing themselves any favors whatsoever.
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2019, 01:47:21 PM »

I would imagine Jefferson and Rose will be gone to the NFL. Like Jefferson was already the Miami Dolphins best player without even playing for them yet. Rose with the ball hawking ability could easily be a 5th or 6th DB for a lot of NFL teams. Did I hear correctly that Rose and Jefferson worked out for the Dolphins? If so they are both gone. Dolphins D couldnt beat the Redblacks.

To be honest I bet we lose Sayles to the NFL before Rose, He's much more in the mold of the NFL DB special teamer. If both get an opportunity tho I can see Rose back here before Sayle
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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2019, 02:57:29 PM »

To be honest I bet we lose Sayles to the NFL before Rose, He's much more in the mold of the NFL DB special teamer. If both get an opportunity tho I can see Rose back here before Sayle

Rose in Cincinnati today.
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2019, 03:04:15 PM »

I think Naylor is out to lunch.  There is no way you can put Evans back on the bench after the year he had for them. He is playing as well as Masoli did, and is clearly the future for them. 

And Masoli is not signing to be anyone's back-up or "1B".  He fought for a long time to get his shot, and he's been very productive.  He is going to be able to ask for, and get, a contract that establishes him as the clear starter.  (By that I mean significant signing bonus, and fewer incentives based on games played etc.)  His ACL recovery is a factor, but in a year when both the Argos and Ottawa are desperate for a proven starter he has sufficient leverage. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2019, 03:12:42 PM »

Rose in Cincinnati today.
Sayles is there too
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