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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2019, 12:05:03 PM »

66 Chevelle nailed it...

When average becomes acceptable...

I don't understand this mentality...this regime has had 6 years...Ottawa won a Grey Cup...Toronto won a Grey Cup...Calgary keeps winning...

But some fans seem content with average...

If your goal is average...and you meet your goal, then you will be average...

How about expectations of greatness....is that too much to ask?Huh?
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2019, 01:33:13 PM »

If we're one and done in the playoffs then MOS needs to go. Management can spin it as he wanted to go back to Toronto so we didn't really have any chance of keeping him. Hall can retire. PLAP will likely get a HC interview or two and might be gone too.

That mean a new HC, DC and OC, but it doesn't mean blowing the whole thing up. The team will remain largely the same under new coaching although we need to sign a QB or two. Similar team with better coaching might just be what the Dr. ordered to take us from middle of the road to playoff winners.
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2019, 01:53:49 PM »

66 Chevelle nailed it...

When average becomes acceptable...

I don't understand this mentality...this regime has had 6 years...Ottawa won a Grey Cup...Toronto won a Grey Cup...Calgary keeps winning...

But some fans seem content with average...

If your goal is average...and you meet your goal, then you will be average...

How about expectations of greatness....is that too much to ask?Huh?


I think this what everyone need to concentrate on. We as fans, make excuses for being "just" ok. And maybe it's the long drought of zero cups. But really injury this or injury that. All teams have them. Hell, I want a great team. I don't need the excuses.

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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2019, 02:12:06 PM »

Well said Section 227
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2019, 06:14:23 PM »

For me, there is only one thing that this team needs and that is a good QB.  Need to score and keep the D on the side lines rested up.

Look at what Montreal and Regina have done this season with rookie HCs.  Get Masolli in here for next season and I think that you will see a different team.  Have been wrong many times before but this is the way that I see it.
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2019, 07:02:41 PM »

66 Chevelle nailed it...

When average becomes acceptable...

I don't understand this mentality...this regime has had 6 years...Ottawa won a Grey Cup...Toronto won a Grey Cup...Calgary keeps winning...

But some fans seem content with average...

If your goal is average...and you meet your goal, then you will be average...

How about expectations of greatness....is that too much to ask?Huh?

Greatness is not achieved in a single bound, it is a gradual climb to the top, much like the road O'Shea/Walters have built over the last 3 years. They held 1st place in the West for most of this season, that is a major achievement and I believe they would still be there if not for Nichols injury and there recent tumble.  The core of this team is powerful, I'm all in on the current management continuing their climb towards greatness next season.
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2019, 07:15:17 PM »

I'm tired of all the excuses. Yes we lost our starting QB but we're not the only team that has. In 6 years we've had one playoff win and 1 home playoff game. How many more years does this regime get?
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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2019, 07:29:19 PM »

Wow, bad day??? The season isn't over.
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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2019, 07:35:35 PM »

Greatness is not achieved in a single bound, it is a gradual climb to the top, much like the road O'Shea/Walters have built over the last 3 years. They held 1st place in the West for most of this season, that is a major achievement and I believe they would still be there if not for Nichols injury and there recent tumble.  The core of this team is powerful, I'm all in on the current management continuing their climb towards greatness next season.

While I normally agree with most of your posts - on this one I am going to have to make an exception. I believe they held 1st in the West just due to playing inferior teams in most cases. Other teams lose their starting QB and seem to do very well thank you - not so the Bombers. And this appears to always be an "If, And or But" team - always something to use as an excuse for under performing at least IMHO. I firmly believe MOS and company have had sufficient time to build toward greatness regardless of who is playing etc. They have had their chance, now time to think about moving on with others steering the Bombers, at least IMHO.
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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2019, 07:46:03 PM »

I just don't see the Bombers finishing higher than third. Maybe we can finish in second but either way we are going to have to go to either Calgary or Regina and I don't see us beating both of those teams on the road Hopefully I'm wrong. And if we do bring back O'Shea how long do we sign him for?
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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2019, 07:47:59 PM »

And what if we do and go to the Grey Cup. What then?
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« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2019, 07:53:24 PM »

Over 5 years, the team has gone from joke to a strong performer.

In fact if the trend we're experiencing continues we would be in no better shape after 6 years than we were after 3.

Our offence with Nichols is among the best in the league in terms of points scored, rushing, and  passing efficiency

I'd argue that is thanks to Harris...not Nichols.

Our defence has, despite having a MLB on the limp, appeared dominant for stretches.  Not perfect, but very good.

And in spite of much better talent, still collapsing at critical times.

The team is one of the best in terms of special team creativity

Perhaps I've forgotten but what evidence of this is there for 2019?

o?Shea Is very solid on challenges

When he decides to make them. He missed fairly obvious opportunities for spearing/helmet to helmet challenges last game and decided to keep the flag in his pocket.

Despite popular mythology, the team has shipped out non-performing veterans like Bowman and Matthews, and benched Hecht when it became necessary.

Matthews had a good game against us in Montreal. Perhaps the under performance is a result of abysmal play calling by a OC with a history of abysmal play calling.

Despite all this, when we hit a little stretch of adversity, all you can see here is wailing and gnashing of teeth

6 years of playoff/championship futility is hardly a "little stretch of adversity"...but people see/focus on what they want.

Augmented by trotting out the favorite scapegoats

Perhaps the reason they're the "favourite scapegoats" is because they continue to show they are the weak links in the organization

pronouncing who needs to get fired simply because the team has failed to meet the unrealistic expectations

If, after almost a full 6 seasons, it's "unrealistic" to expect a team that can show consistency/dominance against the best teams in the league...and dare I say an actual Cup appearance...then I guess mediocrity is good enough for some

internet fanbase with all the ability to deal with disappointment of a toddler who missed his nap.

Cheap shot for a fan base that has continued to support this team through almost 3 frickin decades of disappointment. A fan base that pays the bills. That lives and dies with this team year after year.
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« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2019, 08:02:17 PM »

And what if we do and go to the Grey Cup. What then?
If we win, have a parade, then offer all the coaches new contracts. If we lose, just offer the coaches new contracts.
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« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2019, 08:19:25 PM »

Y?all need to get a grip.  Until last game, we were in the thick of the hunt for first, despite a long term injury to our starting QB and a 2 game suspension to an all star RB. 

Over 5 years, the team has gone from joke to a strong performer.  Our offence with Nichols is among the best in the league in terms of points scored, rushing, and  passing efficiency.  Our defence has, despite having a MLB on the limp, appeared dominant for stretches.  Not perfect, but very good.

The team is one of the best in terms of special team creativity, o?Shea Is very solid on challenges, and we are one of the most disciplined teams in the league, taking few penalties.  Despite popular mythology, the team has shipped out non-performing veterans like Bowman and Matthews, and benched Hecht when it became necessary. 

Despite all this, when we hit a little stretch of adversity, all you can see here is wailing and gnashing of teeth.  Augmented by trotting out the favorite scapegoats and pronouncing who needs to get fired simply because the team has failed to meet the unrealistic expectations of an internet fanbase with all the ability to deal with disappointment of a toddler who missed his nap.

Miller and Walters would be nuts to can O Shea.  That?s not even the question.  The question is whether we will be able to hang on to him.

post of the year, agree with all, slow and steady the Paw's got it right, it warms my heart those that share the sediment
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« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2019, 08:40:31 PM »

post of the year, agree with all, slow and steady the Paw's got it right, it warms my heart those that share the sediment
Slow snails move at a faster pace.
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